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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2019, 08:13:03 PM »
I realize you are known for your snarky comments. You know the best thing about those are. It puts the post back on top. Thanks!

Like weird scenes inside the gold mine?  8)

That's 1969 status quo and we are already past that. I predict the bandwidth is smoking looking for the name Wolff.

nothing to say about something that doesn't exist

"We" aren't past that. You are. Maybe it's hidden in the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine?  8)

No. Like finding that mine is as likely as finding that car. The highest probability is that neither exist.

Snarky? Would you know the difference between snarky and truth? Seems you dwell in a fantasy world? Have fun.  ;)
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #121 on: March 21, 2019, 09:42:15 PM »
What in the world guys?  This thread is going to get locked like the other ones real soon.
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2019, 09:11:03 AM »
Extensive Google search reveals Ray Wolff imported at least in 1968 a venezuelan Mercer race car and by 1980 he was still around in the race scene or maybe even the Duesenberg restoration scene.

I found this later on:
" Model J - After several owners it became the property of a gentleman by the name of Ray Wolff, who began the restoration process. The late Ray Wolff is a former president of the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Club and a noted Duesenberg historian. He was one of the first automotive historians who realized that proper documentation could enhance the value of a motor car. Ray Wolff died in 1991. His obituary (by today's Duesenberg historian Fred Roe) was published in the Journal of the Society of Automotive Historians. (photo courtesy RM Auctions)"
Not saying that this is the same Ray Wolff..somewhere else they say he found the Duesi in 1962.
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2019, 09:53:41 AM »
The timeframe of his death matches what I was told by someone yesterday, who was a regular at his shop in Inglewood. I've also heard others have already tracked down his son. I'm not aware if that revealed anything or not.

Extensive Google search reveals Ray Wolff imported at least in 1968 a venezuelan Mercer race car and by 1980 he was still around in the race scene or maybe even the Duesenberg restoration scene.

I found this later on:
" Model J - After several owners it became the property of a gentleman by the name of Ray Wolff, who began the restoration process. The late Ray Wolff is a former president of the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Club and a noted Duesenberg historian. He was one of the first automotive historians who realized that proper documentation could enhance the value of a motor car. Ray Wolff died in 1991. His obituary (by today's Duesenberg historian Fred Roe) was published in the Journal of the Society of Automotive Historians. (photo courtesy RM Auctions)"
Not saying that this is the same Ray Wolff..somewhere else they say he found the Duesi in 1962.

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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2019, 10:33:54 AM »
This saga, cars falling off the train, missing Playmate cars, unearthed engineering vehicles all add an enjoyable diversion from the daily technical enlightenment. ;D

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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2019, 12:03:02 PM »
This stuff would never happen with a mass production auto manufacturer,which makes it cool. Charming..We are lucky folks. ;D

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« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2019, 01:08:39 PM »
This saga, cars falling off the train, missing Playmate cars, unearthed engineering vehicles all add an enjoyable diversion from the daily technical enlightenment. ;D

+1 Never say NEVER
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2019, 01:39:34 PM »


+1 have a great weekend Mr T

This stuff would never happen with a mass production auto manufacturer,which makes it cool. Charming..We are lucky folks. ;D
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2019, 01:45:10 PM »
+1

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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2019, 04:33:35 PM »
+1

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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2019, 06:07:15 PM »
For the sake of argument, AND ONLY the sake of argument, if this car were actually to turn up and it was authenticated by Kevin Marti,  would it be accepted into the SAAC community like Little Red? (And the Mexico Bullitt for that matter?)
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #131 on: March 22, 2019, 07:07:57 PM »
I appreciate Kevin Marti, but respectfully dont believe he would be the best person to “authenticate” the car.

I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity

There are no questions regarding Little Red, because it was shown as found
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #132 on: March 22, 2019, 08:47:56 PM »
I appreciate Kevin Marti, but respectfully dont believe he would be the best person to “authenticate” the car.

I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity

There are no questions regarding Little Red, because it was shown as found
+1 . Kevin is great at the numbers and books however. 
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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #133 on: March 22, 2019, 10:31:39 PM »
I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity.

For the sake of clarity, the second car is the Mexican junkyard car, correct?

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Re: Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969
« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2019, 11:50:32 PM »
Yes. That's the one I was referring to.
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