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Jim Morrison's 67 GT500 AFTER 1969

Started by Waiting for 939, March 15, 2019, 06:04:36 PM

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shelbydoug

Quote from: Waiting for 939 on March 21, 2019, 07:52:21 PM
I realize you are known for your snarky comments. You know the best thing about those are. It puts the post back on top. Thanks!

Quote from: shelbydoug on March 21, 2019, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: Waiting for 939 on March 21, 2019, 05:25:29 PM
Like weird scenes inside the gold mine?  8)

Quote from: shelbydoug on March 21, 2019, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Waiting for 939 on March 21, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
That's 1969 status quo and we are already past that. I predict the bandwidth is smoking looking for the name Wolff.

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
nothing to say about something that doesn't exist

"We" aren't past that. You are. Maybe it's hidden in the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine?  8)

No. Like finding that mine is as likely as finding that car. The highest probability is that neither exist.

Snarky? Would you know the difference between snarky and truth? Seems you dwell in a fantasy world? Have fun.  ;)
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CharlesTurner

What in the world guys?  This thread is going to get locked like the other ones real soon.
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TransamEd

#122
Extensive Google search reveals Ray Wolff imported at least in 1968 a venezuelan Mercer race car and by 1980 he was still around in the race scene or maybe even the Duesenberg restoration scene.

I found this later on:
" Model J - After several owners it became the property of a gentleman by the name of Ray Wolff, who began the restoration process. The late Ray Wolff is a former president of the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Club and a noted Duesenberg historian. He was one of the first automotive historians who realized that proper documentation could enhance the value of a motor car. Ray Wolff died in 1991. His obituary (by today's Duesenberg historian Fred Roe) was published in the Journal of the Society of Automotive Historians. (photo courtesy RM Auctions)"
Not saying that this is the same Ray Wolff..somewhere else they say he found the Duesi in 1962.

Waiting for 939

The timeframe of his death matches what I was told by someone yesterday, who was a regular at his shop in Inglewood. I've also heard others have already tracked down his son. I'm not aware if that revealed anything or not.

Quote from: TransamEd on March 22, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
Extensive Google search reveals Ray Wolff imported at least in 1968 a venezuelan Mercer race car and by 1980 he was still around in the race scene or maybe even the Duesenberg restoration scene.

I found this later on:
" Model J - After several owners it became the property of a gentleman by the name of Ray Wolff, who began the restoration process. The late Ray Wolff is a former president of the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Club and a noted Duesenberg historian. He was one of the first automotive historians who realized that proper documentation could enhance the value of a motor car. Ray Wolff died in 1991. His obituary (by today's Duesenberg historian Fred Roe) was published in the Journal of the Society of Automotive Historians. (photo courtesy RM Auctions)"
Not saying that this is the same Ray Wolff..somewhere else they say he found the Duesi in 1962.

Bigblock

This saga, cars falling off the train, missing Playmate cars, unearthed engineering vehicles all add an enjoyable diversion from the daily technical enlightenment. ;D

557

This stuff would never happen with a mass production auto manufacturer,which makes it cool. Charming..We are lucky folks. ;D

KerryBWhite

Quote from: Bigblock on March 22, 2019, 10:33:54 AM
This saga, cars falling off the train, missing Playmate cars, unearthed engineering vehicles all add an enjoyable diversion from the daily technical enlightenment. ;D

+1 Never say NEVER
Good Thread

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Quote from: 557 on March 22, 2019, 12:03:02 PM
This stuff would never happen with a mass production auto manufacturer,which makes it cool. Charming..We are lucky folks. ;D
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68stangcjfb

For the sake of argument, AND ONLY the sake of argument, if this car were actually to turn up and it was authenticated by Kevin Marti,  would it be accepted into the SAAC community like Little Red? (And the Mexico Bullitt for that matter?)
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Coralsnake

#131
I appreciate Kevin Marti, but respectfully dont believe he would be the best person to "authenticate" the car.

I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity

There are no questions regarding Little Red, because it was shown as found

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Coralsnake on March 22, 2019, 07:07:57 PM
I appreciate Kevin Marti, but respectfully dont believe he would be the best person to "authenticate" the car.

I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity

There are no questions regarding Little Red, because it was shown as found
+1 . Kevin is great at the numbers and books however. 
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Quote from: Coralsnake on March 22, 2019, 07:07:57 PM
I am not sure if you followed the second Bullitt car, but there are some questions to its authenticity.

For the sake of clarity, the second car is the Mexican junkyard car, correct?

68stangcjfb

Yes. That's the one I was referring to.
68 1/2 CJ Mustang GT FB auto 3.91s 68 1/2 CJ Torino GT FB 3.91s 60 Thunderbird 64 Falcon Sprint conv. 4Spd 65 Falcon Sedan Delivery 67 Fairlane 500 SW 428 4Spd, 68 Torino 4dr 95 Thunderbird SC. 89 F250 Supercab 2wd, 98 Mustang conv. 99 Jeep Cherokee 2002 Thunderbird. 96 Harley FLSTN Heritage Special