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Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« on: March 25, 2019, 03:49:55 PM »
Just curious if anyone knows why the C0AE-9601-C 427 air filter was used by SAI on the very early cars?

I assume it was for performance reasons, is there any documentation supporting that or any other mention of it?  IIRC they quit using it because of hood interference issues.

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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2019, 03:53:14 PM »
I thought 5S003 had that on it. 

Wouldn't Mark know?   I remember seeing the discussion on the old forum a few years ago.

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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2019, 04:39:24 PM »
Yes, 5S003 did have one. This photo of 5011 is one of the better shots I've seen.

I do recall a discussion on the old forum but don't remember if there was any documentation on it other than photos.

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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2019, 05:34:52 PM »
Is Buddy on here?  I wonder if it's still on the car! ;) 
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2019, 06:33:16 PM »
Another one.. guessing either 5021 or 5022?

To the left in the background, also see the large air filter, maybe same car in above photo.
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2019, 08:19:46 PM »
Different number on the windshield, Charles.  As an aside, check out the cheap, sheet metal jack stands.  I've seen stuff like that collapse on guys.  Fortunately, we got to 'em in time.
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2019, 08:44:36 PM »
The filter was a stock 289 Cobra item and its possible they wanted to keep using them as its a larger filter .  They had clearance problems with the porthole hoods (check out the screens on original hoods - most all  have holes in them!)  The stud hits the screen.  If you look at the picture of the 65 at the airport with the pretty brunette  you can see in one shot the stud is way above the lid of the air cleaner so they went to the shorter element by then but didn't change the stud yet
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2019, 08:55:54 PM »
Is that a fram filter?
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2019, 08:57:59 PM »
Is that a fram filter?
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The air filter?  Those were FoMoCo pieces.
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2019, 09:01:09 PM »
Different number on the windshield, Charles.  As an aside, check out the cheap, sheet metal jack stands.  I've seen stuff like that collapse on guys.  Fortunately, we got to 'em in time.

Right, the other one was noted as being 5011.  Guessing by the work order, thought it was one of the 2nd set of 4 started on 12/22/64  (5004, 5011, 5021, 5022)  The one in my picture appeared to have a '#8' with work order 17008.
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2019, 09:43:17 PM »
Different number on the windshield, Charles.  As an aside, check out the cheap, sheet metal jack stands.  I've seen stuff like that collapse on guys.  Fortunately, we got to 'em in time.
To add, wonder how many white uniforms they had?  Or how many the workers went through in any given period of time.  Must've used some sort of GoJo laundry detergent.  ;D LOL

Check out the greasy place on the floor at reply #4 :o

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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2019, 09:52:19 PM »
To add, wonder how many white uniforms they had?  Or how many the workers went through in any given period of time.  Must've used some sort of GoJo laundry detergent.  ;D LOL

Check out the greasy place on the floor at reply #4 :o
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I totally understand the question of wearing white uniforms being a mechanic but it looks like he is  is on a creeper in that picture
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2019, 09:53:13 PM »
Is that a fram filter?
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The air filter?  Those were FoMoCo pieces.

As Charles said those in the photo were no doubt FoMoCo C0AE-9601-C filters. The period Fram replacement was CA-183-PL, long obsolete. Years ago I compared a Fram with an NOS FoMoCo and they were identical.
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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2019, 10:06:22 PM »
To add, wonder how many white uniforms they had?  Or how many the workers went through in any given period of time.  Must've used some sort of GoJo laundry detergent.  ;D LOL

Check out the greasy place on the floor at reply #4 :o

I totally understand the question of wearing white uniforms being a mechanic but it looks like he is on a creeper in that picture.
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Yes, I knew that, I must've not used exact words or not enough words. I was just making the point of the shop area being pretty greasy from all the work with oils and fluids they used when doing the upgrades.

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Re: Very Early Venice 427 Air Filter
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 11:53:44 PM »
Not to get sidetracked from the OT, but doing a quick search on mechanic coveralls yielded a few explanations...

White because:
-Cooler
-Easier to see patches/team insignias
-Cheaper to make, no dye

At one point, painters wearing white designated they were union
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