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NOS deck lid and end caps in factory Ford boxes

Started by shelby1817, June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM

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shelby1817

trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969  I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's.  I am restoring 1967 #273  and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.   

JD

Is the deck lid on your car #273 the early version with the metal frame underneath (I would think it is or should be) or the all fiberglass (later) version? 

I'm guessing the NOS one is the all fiberglass version.

See attached Deck lid underside versions.

(Also car #11XX has the metal framed deck lid.)
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelby1817

it is the one with the metal insert  and it has 2 spots of rust. I purchased a NOS red oxide deck lid many years ago to re skin my original...  just not sure all the labor will be worth the effort

JD

Many did rust over time, and as you've stated repairable.

The cost/effort of fixing the original vs cutting up a NOS one may not be the best.  Odds are what needs fixed is the metal not the fiberglass portion so you may want to focus on repairing the original metal and sell the NOS one.

Is the rust towards the rear edge (tail) of the deck lid?
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelby1817

Yes on the edge I will not use the NOS one  I was planning to use a NOS steel lid  and re skin it with the original lid from the car ...

JD

Just a thought - since the corners are bad and hidden under the fiberglass (and gasket) used to join the two pieces why not buy and cut the underside lower corners off a repro metal deck lid and weld them to the original and sell the NOS all metal standard Mustang deck lid?

'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelby1817

I could ...I think when I get to that point I will see how bad the edges are  i also have several used deck lids that I could use to do what you are recommending. Very good idea thank you... do you have any idea what the nos all fiberglass lid is worth? i see end caps quite frequently. just not sure on the deck lid itself... thanks for your assistance. 

JD

Sounds like you have a good plan.

Sorry, I'm not the best at pricing items.  Hopefully others will chime-in on the value of the 2 NOS deck lids you have (Shelby all fiberglass and Mustang standard all steel)
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelbydoug

68 GT350 Lives Matter!

roddster

  He stated he was restoring #0273.
  JD had plenty of great input here.
Here is mine:  1) it is not unusual for the metal underlined hood and deck to "delaminate".  So, you grind around the outside bottom to remove the rusted metal Mustang factory stamping.  2) Do the same to the original Mustang deck lid.  Except you do grind along just the outside (removing the "fold"). 3) you'll need a long flat stock the reach in and carefully pry the deck lid top off off the deck lid botton due to the glue/sealer Ford used inside to prevent rattles 4) do treat the underside of the freshly removed Mustang deck lid as you will see, Fomoco didn't think about these car lasting 50 plus years.  There is often NO paint in there. It will be rusty. 5) Glass the two back together. Be careful of dripping fiberglass resin in those areas seen between the cross bracing.  6) the hood is harder to do and is difficult to fit properly at the front corners.
  Having said this, folks can do the same thing with their hoods if needed.

  And, if you own a early "metal underlined" hood/deck Shelby, you might want to figure out a way to shoot some coating up between the parts to prevent rust like  this.  Unless it is already too late.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbydoug on June 19, 2019, 09:42:15 AM
I think 1817 should be all 'glass.
That is if 1817 in the OP's avatar is referring to a 67  Shelby VIN. If it is I would agree that 1817 would be way too late in production to expect to see a steel innerstructure trunk or hood that was installed from the factory . Would the OP please confirm the Shelby VIN of the car in question needing the steel innerstructure trunklid?
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

roddster

Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969  I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70’s.  I am restoring 1967 #273  and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.   

Sigh.......

JD

Quote from: roddster on June 19, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969  I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's.  I am restoring 1967 #273  and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.   

Sigh.......

+1 (I think the "1817" is his "handle" and references another year car - but verification can't hurt)
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelby1817

roddster  thank you for your input if you look at the pic you will see the car was Zibarted white plastic plug when new and it still rusted

the deck lid is on #273  (steel frame which i am refering to) but yes i also own 1817 (which has fiberglass)

shelbydoug

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Quote from: roddster on June 19, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Quote from: shelby1817 on June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
trying to find the value of a NOS 1967 shelby deck lid and end caps in factory boxes. Boxes are dated 1968 and 1969  I have never seen a complete set for sale... I acquired them in the late 70's.  I am restoring 1967 #273  and not sure if I should use the NOS parts or restore what I have.   

Sigh.......

Hey! Give it a rest! We're old. Well I am anyway. You're got to be careful about avitars. They can get you in deep trouble.

Other seemingly innocent remarks as well.

I had a female friend ask me how it was here. I said I've got 8 inches. Well...I was referring to the snow but heck if she took it the wrong way then...ok!  8)
68 GT350 Lives Matter!