News:

We have implemented a Photo Gallery for hosting images right here on SAACFORUM. Check the How-To in News from HQ

Main Menu

What will be the most collectable new age Shelby ?

Started by FL SAAC, October 03, 2019, 10:22:30 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

ITHERTZ

#45
Most here know I'm in love with the Hertz cars.  Check out my handle, for cryin' out loud!  I also own a 2006 GT-H.  I agree these should be ones to look for in the future.  Having said that...

I think the 08-09 GT500KR cars deserve a seat at the table.  These were genuine pre-title Shelby Mustangs sold through Ford dealerships as completed Shelby cars complete with Ford warranty.  Just like they did in the 60s and just like they did with the 07-08 SGT.  Unlike the SGT, the KR has more unique parts and lower production volume. 

As much as I love the GT-H cars they aren't quite in the same category as the GT500KR, simply because they should likely be considered post-title Shelby conversion cars.  However, their historical significance (GT-H) is unmatched with putting Shelby Mustangs back on the map in 2006 and of course the nod back to 1966 when the Shelby GT350H catapulted the Shelby Mustang into the mainstream. 

The problem with both of these vehicles (and all the so-called future collectibles) is that there are far too many that all look the same; each with low miles because they haven't been enjoyed properly.  I find it humorous how many GT-H cars have been stored away with only their rental use miles...all in the interest of preserving the value.  I drive mine!  Why should the renters get all the fun (:


FL SAAC

#46
Most here know I'm in love with the Hertz cars.  Check out my handle, for cryin' out loud!  I also own a 2006 GT-H.  I agree these should be ones to look for in the future.  Having said that...

We also agree with you

I think the 08-09 GT500KR cars deserve a seat at the table.  These were genuine pre-title Shelby Mustangs sold through Ford dealerships as completed Shelby cars complete with Ford warranty.  Just like they did in the 60s and just like they did with the 07-08 SGT.  Unlike the SGT, the KR has more unique parts and lower production volume. 

We also agree with you. But on the production numbers the 08, 09 KRs had more produced 1,571 versus the three year run 06, 07, 16 of GTHs 1,172. The SGT is a non contender for the moment[/color]

As much as I love the GT-H cars they aren't quite in the same category as the GT500KR, simply because they should likely be considered post-title Shelby conversion cars.  However, their historical significance (GT-H) is unmatched with putting Shelby Mustangs back on the map in 2006 and of course the nod back to 1966 when the Shelby GT350H catapulted the Shelby Mustang into the mainstream. 

Agreed but the GTHs have the unique mystique of having Ford, Shelby and Hertz collaboration that no other Shelby has. Rent a Racer
.


The problem with both of these vehicles (and all the so-called future collectibles) is that there are far too many that all look the same; each with low miles because they haven't been enjoyed properly.  I find it humorous how many GT-H cars have been stored away with only their rental use miles...all in the interest of preserving the value.  I drive mine!  Why should the renters get all the fun (:

Not really a terrible problem,  look at all the 65 and 66s white with blue stripes.  I find them all very pleasing to the eye. As far as driving them well you should know my preference.

Again all we are looking for is what new age "Shelby" maybe collectable in the future. That is the question.Currently we have the GTHs, the KRs and the Shelby 1000s as picks, all are very formidable choices.

To say these Shelbys are worthless and will not be worth anything in my honest opinion is preposterous

Troy thank you for your input

Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

tesgt350

I will have to say the "Don the Snake Prudomme GT 500"

Don Johnston

And a another contention that frequently brings debate, politely, I hope, is whether collectable status is affected as to a Ford factory licensed Shelby Mustang or a Shelby American (Las Vegas) factory modified Mustang with a Shelby name.  Obviously, Ford factories can produce tens of thaousands of Shelby named Mustangs like the 2007-2014 GT500 series and the current 2015-now GT350/350R series.  The LV shop makes vaious models only in the hundreds.  But then the original prices are far different as well betwen Ford assemly line versus SA hand rebuild vehicles (post title Mustangs).   8)

FL SAAC

Truly not familiar with this model. Would you please elaborate as to why it would be a contender?


Quote from: tesgt350 on October 07, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
I will have to say the "Don the Snake Prudomme GT 500"
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

Bill

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 11:43:01 AM

Unlike when the Ford Motor Company made the 1968, 1969 and 1970 Mustangs into Shelbys with no CSM s

Betcha didn't know that SVT really started in 1968....lmao !

What does the window sticker on a 68-70 Shelby say?

vs

What does the window sticker on a late model Shelby say?

Just saying  ;)

Bill

PS: Since when was CSM ever a thing in the 60's or early 70's ?  ::)
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

FL SAAC

#51
Hi Bill,

Usually options, prices , selling dealer, destination....charges, etc.

Nice hearing from you, hope all is well.

Quote from: Bill on October 07, 2019, 07:23:22 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 11:43:01 AM

Unlike when the Ford Motor Company made the 1968, 1969 and 1970 Mustangs into Shelbys with no CSM s

Betcha didn't know that SVT really started in 1968....lmao !

What does the window sticker on a 68-70 Shelby say?

vs

What does the window sticker on a late model Shelby say?

Just saying  ;)

Bill

PS: Since when was CSM ever a thing in the 60's or early 70's ?  ::)
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

Bill

#52
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 07:30:56 PM
Hi Bill,

Usually options, prices , selling dealer, destination....charges, etc.

Ah yes, along with the manufacturer of record  8)

In this case, we will start with a factory invoice for a 69 GT500

Followed by the factory invoice for the basis of a 2006 Hertz GT-H (wait, does it say Shelby on it) with the manufacturer on record clearly spelled out

Followed by the parts invoice for the aftermarket conversion of the previously mentioned Mustang GT.


I see no manufacturers window sticker that spells Shelby in Vegas as the manufacturer of record, do you  :o

Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

Bill

But wait, there is more, how about the original MSO

Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

QuickSilverShelby

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
Most here know I'm in love with the Hertz cars.  Check out my handle, for cryin' out loud!  I also own a 2006 GT-H.  I agree these should be ones to look for in the future.  Having said that...

We also agree with you

I think the 08-09 GT500KR cars deserve a seat at the table.  These were genuine pre-title Shelby Mustangs sold through Ford dealerships as completed Shelby cars complete with Ford warranty.  Just like they did in the 60s and just like they did with the 07-08 SGT.  Unlike the SGT, the KR has more unique parts and lower production volume. 

We also agree with you. But on the production numbers the 08, 09 KRs had more produced 1,571 versus the three year run 06, 07, 16 of GTHs 1,172. The SGT is a non contender for the moment


As much as I love the GT-H cars they aren't quite in the same category as the GT500KR, simply because they should likely be considered post-title Shelby conversion cars.  However, their historical significance (GT-H) is unmatched with putting Shelby Mustangs back on the map in 2006 and of course the nod back to 1966 when the Shelby GT350H catapulted the Shelby Mustang into the mainstream. 

Agreed but the GTHs have the unique mystique of having Ford, Shelby and Hertz collaboration that no other Shelby has. Rent a Racer.


The problem with both of these vehicles (and all the so-called future collectibles) is that there are far too many that all look the same; each with low miles because they haven't been enjoyed properly.  I find it humorous how many GT-H cars have been stored away with only their rental use miles...all in the interest of preserving the value.  I drive mine!  Why should the renters get all the fun (:

Not really a terrible problem,  look at all the 65 and 66s white with blue stripes.  I find them all very pleasing to the eye. As far as driving them well you should know my preference.

Again all we are looking for is what new age "Shelby" maybe collectable in the future. That is the question.Currently we have the GTHs, the KRs and the Shelby 1000s as picks, all are very formidable choices.

To say these Shelbys are worthless and will not be worth anything in my honest opinion is preposterous

Troy thank you for your input
Tony, I like reading some of your posts but you have to stop using that yellow font.  I literally can't read your responses with the color your using.

QSS
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Don Johnston


[/quote]
Tony, I like reading some of your posts but you have to stop using that yellow font.  I literally can't read your responses with the color your using.

QSS
[/quote]


+1 8)

Chris Thauberger

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 07:30:56 PM


BARFFFF


Quote from: Bill on October 07, 2019, 07:23:22 PM

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 11:43:01 AM

Unlike when the Ford Motor Company made the 1968, 1969 and 1970 Mustangs into Shelbys with no CSM s

Betcha didn't know that SVT really started in 1968....lmao !

What does the window sticker on a 68-70 Shelby say?

vs

What does the window sticker on a late model Shelby say?

Just saying  ;)

Bill

PS: Since when was CSM ever a thing in the 60's or early 70's ?  ::)



This is going to be fun... ::)

Life is 1% what happen to you and 99% how you react to it.



Video: Gold Concours GT500
Article: Pursuit of Gold

FL SAAC

#57
Thank you for the contributing documents.

Everyone knows that one was built at a Shelby facility and the others where not built at a Shelby facility.

Quote from: Bill on October 07, 2019, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 07:30:56 PM
Hi Bill,

Usually options, prices , selling dealer, destination....charges, etc.

Ah yes, along with the manufacturer of record  8)

In this case, we will start with a factory invoice for a 69 GT500

Followed by the factory invoice for the basis of a 2006 Hertz GT-H (wait, does it say Shelby on it) with the manufacturer on record clearly spelled out

Followed by the parts invoice for the aftermarket conversion of the previously mentioned Mustang GT.


I see no manufacturers window sticker that spells Shelby in Vegas as the manufacturer of record, do you  :o
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

FL SAAC

QSS acknowledged

Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on October 07, 2019, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on October 07, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
Most here know I'm in love with the Hertz cars.  Check out my handle, for cryin' out loud!  I also own a 2006 GT-H.  I agree these should be ones to look for in the future.  Having said that...

We also agree with you

I think the 08-09 GT500KR cars deserve a seat at the table.  These were genuine pre-title Shelby Mustangs sold through Ford dealerships as completed Shelby cars complete with Ford warranty.  Just like they did in the 60s and just like they did with the 07-08 SGT.  Unlike the SGT, the KR has more unique parts and lower production volume. 

We also agree with you. But on the production numbers the 08, 09 KRs had more produced 1,571 versus the three year run 06, 07, 16 of GTHs 1,172. The SGT is a non contender for the moment


As much as I love the GT-H cars they aren't quite in the same category as the GT500KR, simply because they should likely be considered post-title Shelby conversion cars.  However, their historical significance (GT-H) is unmatched with putting Shelby Mustangs back on the map in 2006 and of course the nod back to 1966 when the Shelby GT350H catapulted the Shelby Mustang into the mainstream. 

Agreed but the GTHs have the unique mystique of having Ford, Shelby and Hertz collaboration that no other Shelby has. Rent a Racer.


The problem with both of these vehicles (and all the so-called future collectibles) is that there are far too many that all look the same; each with low miles because they haven't been enjoyed properly.  I find it humorous how many GT-H cars have been stored away with only their rental use miles...all in the interest of preserving the value.  I drive mine!  Why should the renters get all the fun (:

Not really a terrible problem,  look at all the 65 and 66s white with blue stripes.  I find them all very pleasing to the eye. As far as driving them well you should know my preference.

Again all we are looking for is what new age "Shelby" maybe collectable in the future. That is the question.Currently we have the GTHs, the KRs and the Shelby 1000s as picks, all are very formidable choices.

To say these Shelbys are worthless and will not be worth anything in my honest opinion is preposterous

Troy thank you for your input
Tony, I like reading some of your posts but you have to stop using that yellow font.  I literally can't read your responses with the color your using.

QSS
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

FL SAAC

Beautiful copy, thanks for sharing

Quote from: Bill on October 07, 2019, 09:34:17 PM
But wait, there is more, how about the original MSO
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert