Interesting Article about Electric Cars being a Potential Disaster

[NC TRACKRAT]

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/10/opinion/electric-cars-could-be-just-another-ecological-disaster/

[deathsled]

So sad. Too bad. Build more nuclear reactors or go to hydrogen. We are not going back to riding horses. Someone better figure it out soon.  Can you imagine downtown parking garages as horse stables with thousands of horses milling about. Makes for an interesting image, maybe even a silly short horror story, no?

[kjspeed]

Money quote from that story: "Far from making the world cleaner, we will simply be transferring the pollution from the tailpipe to the power-plant chimney."

[greekz]

I read similar information in another article.  This part is conveniently omitted by the tree huggers.  This is the real Inconvenient Truth.  I worked 35 years in research, 33 of it in alternate energy research and there are several processes available as an alternative, but the capital investment is somewhat prohibitive and the environmental hoops are numerous.  And, generally no assistance of government funding.  Hydrogen powered cars are only part of the puzzle. 

In 2005, Chevron had a test fleet of hydrogen powered cars.  What I was told by those involved, a lack of maintenance by the participants was the norm.  Which lead to operating and reliability problems. 

Greek

[kjspeed]

And then there's this: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article234303987.html

[2112]

Don't forget the ecological hit when minerals for batteries are mined.

[2112]

Any real solution will have to include carbon recapture.

We could even potentially get rapic cooling by spraying sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere over the poles. Not ideal, but it could buy us a lot of time necessary to engineer better solutions.

Unfortunately the Climate Change movement is no longer about finding real solutions. It has been hijacked by those wanting to grow government as well as the Social Justice warriors.   

[Don Johnston]

All so true.  Ban the plastic bottles and fossil fuels.  Ever notice first response in a disaster is to fly in cases of those horrid water bottles.  I guess no one likes storing hydators and gallons of chlorinated water.  And all the chain saws, heavy equipment backhoes and bulldozers and trucks loaded with relief supplies while crews try to also repair electrical lines.  How dare they use all that planet destroying equiment to save lives and property.

[Bigfoot]

Don't forget the ecological hit when minerals for batteries are mined.

Battery powered cars are BS.
They just recalled Zantac
Battery powered cars next

[Don Johnston]

The electric car lobby just did a media cirus press release here now that there just over 10,000 e-cars registered out of over 1.35 million vehicles.  This, despite e-car beneits of Fed. tax credits, free airport parking up to a month and in State and County pay parking facilities, free charging stations (required to be installed and paid or in shopping centers) and  single users allowed in highway HOV lanes. 

Hawaii State mandate is or all electricty generated be from renewable energe by 2045.  There is solar, wind, geothermal and garbage to energy renewable sources.  But guess what?  There is no bio-fuel to get all the aircraft and ships here.  Hmmmm.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Don't forget the ecological hit when minerals for batteries are mined.

Mined in Canada - loaded on a ship to Europe - shipped by rail to China - made into batteries - shipped to car makers - used up - shipped to China for disposal.
China is in the mix because they are the only country whose enviromental laws don't care about the pollution caused by the battery manufacturing and disposal process.

[67BoB]

We are getting all that global warming carry on over here in New Zealand, there answer is to tax us even our livestock can't fart for free.
Where does all the tax go and benefits from it?

[2112]

Where does all the tax go and benefits from it?

Social Justice and growing government.

Oh, and Goldman Sachs or whoever is going to manage the Carbon Credit markets.