Mag Stars or 10 Spokes

[shelbydoug]

It's always amazed me how just changing the wheels changes the entire feel and character of the car.

I vote for the 10 spokes but I like the highlights fully polished as opposed to "machined".

You should realign the front though since the offset does change the steering a little.

[67 GT350]

Yes very true, my Magstars are repro and I have original 10-spokes.

[Bob Gaines]

My car came with the "Deluxe Wheels" so can I put either wheel on it and it is considered, "Right"? I have mag stars on it now but I personally like the 10-spokes, I have a set of original 10-spokes that I would like to get restored, but it seems like this if getting harder and harder to get people who know how to do them right. As far as my car goes, Deluxe Wheels do not mean anything then other than two different wheel choices..

Review reply #4 for reasons of giving latitude to wheel choices in concours.

[GT350DAVE]

Your car was shipped from Shelby with Magstars but I agree with others that it is your car and you should go with what makes you happy. There are several places that restore 10 spokes. Shelby Parts in WI. does a really nice job. If you have any questions about your car you should contact the 67 Registrar. He owns a car from your DOS 2548(one of 5 cars) and can answer any questions.
Dave

[BGlover67]

Your car was shipped from Shelby with Magstars but I agree with others that it is your car and you should go with what makes you happy. There are several places that restore 10 spokes. Shelby Parts in WI. does a really nice job. If you have any questions about your car you should contact the 67 Registrar. He owns a car from your DOS 2548(one of 5 cars) and can answer any questions.
Dave

And he's a heck of a nice guy. 

[Shelby_r_b]

It's always amazed me how just changing the wheels changes the entire feel and character of the car.

I vote for the 10 spokes but I like the highlights fully polished as opposed to "machined".

You should realign the front though since the offset does change the steering a little.

So, so true. Wheels and tires can so change the look and feel to an incredible extent.

[BeaterGT500]

I have the same dilemma with my Gotham Ford sold car, number 683.  I got to speak with Bill Kolb a few years ago, and he confirmed that they frequently swapped wheels among cars in stock to suit the buyers wishes.  I got lucky and have original sets of both 10 spokes and Magstars, but I prefer the 10 spoke look so that's what I'll put on the car.  Also it seems like the Magstars lug holes might be more prone to "ovaling" if not regularly torqued down?  Just a hunch, the ten spokes seem a bit thicker.

[shelbydoug]

I have the same dilemma with my Gotham Ford sold car, number 683.  I got to speak with Bill Kolb a few years ago, and he confirmed that they frequently swapped wheels among cars in stock to suit the buyers wishes.  I got lucky and have original sets of both 10 spokes and Magstars, but I prefer the 10 spoke look so that's what I'll put on the car.  Also it seems like the Magstars lug holes might be more prone to "ovaling" if not regularly torqued down?  Just a hunch, the ten spokes seem a bit thicker.

I don't know what the sales numbers of 67 Gotham Shelbys is, but considering Kolb was the "High Performance Salesman of the Year", it was probably a lot?

An early picture of my car shows it with Magstars. I found the original owner and he didn't know the difference between the wheels so he was no help.

I remember when I was a kid, I went with my parents to buy a Ford Pickup truck. They came out of there with a Yellow Fairlane 500. Impulse buying at it's finest!

I wonder how many Shelbys got sold that way?



Listen to the story that Howard Parde tells of buying his first Shelby. It was a '65 GT350. It was Larsen Ford in White Plains and Kolb was the salesman. Kolb wouldn't let him leave until he bought the car.

I also KNOW Kolb would put aftermarket wheels on the car and eventually you couldn't buy these cars without his special package which included undercoating, fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror, floor mats, and a tiger tail hanging out the gas tank.

He is one of THE most aggressive salesmen I have ever met. Don't ever give him you home address, He'd show up at the door with a car for you to buy and wouldn't let you into or out of the house until you bought it.

[68krrrr]

My Marti report on my my newly acquired  67 gt500 specifically says Aluminum 10 spokes

[Bob Gaines]

My Marti report on my my newly acquired  67 gt500 specifically says Aluminum 10 spokes

That still does not preclude the wheels from being swapped before selling to first owner. Wheel swaps to make a new car deal are well established  67 Shelby lore.

[shelbydoug]

Folks are having difficulty with this much freedom Bob?

[tesgt350]

I have a friend that wanted a 1978 Trans Am so he went to the Pontiac Dealer and saw two, one was Silver with Light Blue Valor Interior and one was Bright Blue Metallic with Gray Valor Interior.  He actually talked the Dealer into doing a complete  swap of the two Interiors including the Dash and Steering Column.  I think the Headliner stayed though.   

[Bob Gaines]

Folks are having difficulty with this much freedom Bob?

Scary, right?

[shelbydoug]

Folks are having difficulty with this much freedom Bob?

Scary, right?

More like confusing?

[Richstang]

I have the same dilemma with my Gotham Ford sold car, number 683.  I got to speak with Bill Kolb a few years ago, and he confirmed that they frequently swapped wheels among cars in stock to suit the buyers wishes.  I got lucky and have original sets of both 10 spokes and Magstars, but I prefer the 10 spoke look so that's what I'll put on the car.  Also it seems like the Magstars lug holes might be more prone to "ovaling" if not regularly torqued down?  Just a hunch, the ten spokes seem a bit thicker.

I don't know what the sales numbers of 67 Gotham Shelbys is, but considering Kolb was the "High Performance Salesman of the Year", it was probably a lot?

An early picture of my car shows it with Magstars. I found the original owner and he didn't know the difference between the wheels so he was no help.

I remember when I was a kid, I went with my parents to buy a Ford Pickup truck. They came out of there with a Yellow Fairlane 500. Impulse buying at it's finest!

I wonder how many Shelbys got sold that way?



Listen to the story that Howard Parde tells of buying his first Shelby. It was a '65 GT350. It was Larsen Ford in White Plains and Kolb was the salesman. Kolb wouldn't let him leave until he bought the car.

I also KNOW Kolb would put aftermarket wheels on the car and eventually you couldn't buy these cars without his special package which included undercoating, fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror, floor mats, and a tiger tail hanging out the gas tank.

He is one of THE most aggressive salesmen I have ever met. Don't ever give him you home address, He'd show up at the door with a car for you to buy and wouldn't let you into or out of the house until you bought it.

Gotham Ford appears to be the highest volume selling dealer in 1967. I estimate around 110 units of '67 Shelby's were sold.

Some further details on dealers volumes were compiled in our SRG group on this topic.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/shelbyresearch/hQpBJ5mlwYw