Jay Leno reviews the 2020 GT 500

[deathsled]

Looks threatening in black...
https://youtu.be/wH49n-4zuIc

[shelbydoug]

Nice car but apparently GM has declared war with the Corvette prices. This 500 is priced in the 90's. 

[deathsled]

True, but that may drive scarcity down the road making these cars worth that much more in comparison to the Corvette which may or likely will turn out to be the better seller.  It all depends on what one wants in life.  Corvettes are good looking cars I will concede. I'm still a Shelby fan even of the new GT 500.  I've got all I need in the barn though.  But like visiting an art gallery, I can appreciate all the beautiful sculpted cars that are out there.

[shelbydoug]

Shelby's gone. He isn't here to recreate anything. These cars all remind me of Hummels. As likely to appreciate in value as US Proof Sets.

You can own the Playmate of the year and appreciate her anyway that you want but I'm gonna' drive it. I've got my car investments already.

What's Ford's next move? Are they going to put a talking hologram of CS in the car that tells you to kick Ferrari's ass? Common. They're beating a dead horse. It's not a Shelby, it's like the continuation Cobras, they're some kind of a replica from the Matrix?

It's like they think they have some kind of DNA sample and they're trying to clone real Shelbys from it?

[FL SAAC]

Looks threatening in black...
https://youtu.be/wH49n-4zuIc

this car is the ultimate mustang, the best track and 1/4 mile car ford has ever built.

this has/will make the new 350/350r obsolete

jay and many other celebrities have gotten the car at msrp or less directly from ford.

we the regular stiffs will have to pay msrp plus the dealers adm

this does not detract from its capabilities. it is what it is a tremendous and probably the best mustang built to date

[FL SAAC]

we agree with you, this new  c8 is amazing for its value

just tad bit slower in the 1/4 mile but faster on the 0 to 60, that means at the stoplight the 60k C8 will have your 150k mustang for lunch

we can fix  the 1/4 mile issue for under 5k

also remember that this is essentially the base model,  wait until the ZR1 arrives

oh and guess again on the 500s price...

Nice car but apparently GM has declared war with the Corvette prices. This 500 is priced in the 90's. 

[FL SAAC]

all these new cars are going to be in abundance as tons of people will be hoarding them

future foreseeable value ... zero

True, but that may drive scarcity down the road making these cars worth that much more in comparison to the Corvette which may or likely will turn out to be the better seller.  It all depends on what one wants in life.  Corvettes are good looking cars I will concede. I'm still a Shelby fan even of the new GT 500.  I've got all I need in the barn though.  But like visiting an art gallery, I can appreciate all the beautiful sculpted cars that are out there.

[FL SAAC]

as far as we are concerned CS left the building in 1967

today you have entities recruiting anything with that last name for its marketing value

Shelby's gone. He isn't here to recreate anything. These cars all remind me of Hummels. As likely to appreciate in value as US Proof Sets.

You can own the Playmate of the year and appreciate her anyway that you want but I'm gonna' drive it. I've got my car investments already.

What's Ford's next move? Are they going to put a talking hologram of CS in the car that tells you to kick Ferrari's ass? Common. They're beating a dead horse. It's not a Shelby, it's like the continuation Cobras, they're some kind of a replica from the Matrix?

It's like they think they have some kind of DNA sample and they're trying to clone real Shelbys from it?

[deathsled]

I agree.  Shelby's name is a namesake on the car.  A label so to speak, much like Enzo is a namesake on a Ferrari, or Dino (in memory of Enzo's deceased brother I believe).  So the name is used to denote a performance model upgrade to separate it from the base Mustang and so on.  Just as Corvette doesn't attach a human name to their car but rather calls it the ZR-1 to denote a performance upgrade.  (Which is fine and I wouldn't begrudge GM from calling a certain version of the Vette the Arkus Duntov either).  I have no problem with Ford honoring Shelby's name on their car.  From what I glean though, the Corvette is going to be faster and more nimble in the curves.  It depends on what you like in appearance as well that drives a sale.  I still view cars as sculpted rolling art work.  And yes, Shelby has left the building.  But he is still remembered.  I won't take that away from Ford wanting to use his name on the new G.T. 500.  It looks great.  So does the Corvette.  I don't expect to own either in the foreseeable future.  My future self might disagree.

To supplement, when the electronics start to go on all of these cars after a few years, it will be a nightmare to get them fully functioning again unlike old stuff from the 60s.  Only peril there is finding correct and useable parts for the older cars.

[FL SAAC]

With all due respect, the Ferrari name is not a namesake like the shelby name is.

Currently Ferrari has a true direct descendant as vice chairman or vice president, that is Piero Lardi Ferrari

He is the second and only living son of Enzo Ferrari, and a 10% or 15% owner of the Ferrari automotive company of which he is the vice chairman. 

I agree.  Shelby's name is a namesake on the car.  A label so to speak, much like Enzo is a namesake on a Ferrari, or Dino (in memory of Enzo's deceased brother I believe).  So the name is used to denote a performance model upgrade to separate it from the base Mustang and so on.  Just as Corvette doesn't attach a human name to their car but rather calls it the ZR-1 to denote a performance upgrade.  (Which is fine and I wouldn't begrudge GM from calling a certain version of the Vette the Arkus Duntov either).  I have no problem with Ford honoring Shelby's name on their car.  From what I glean though, the Corvette is going to be faster and more nimble in the curves.  It depends on what you like in appearance as well that drives a sale.  I still view cars as sculpted rolling art work.  And yes, Shelby has left the building.  But he is still remembered.  I won't take that away from Ford wanting to use his name on the new G.T. 500.  It looks great.  So does the Corvette.  I don't expect to own either in the foreseeable future.  My future self might disagree.

To supplement, when the electronics start to go on all of these cars after a few years, it will be a nightmare to get them fully functioning again unlike old stuff from the 60s.  Only peril there is finding correct and useable parts for the older cars.

[deathsled]

I agree that the Ferrari name is not a namesake however the "Enzo" is as it applies to a specific Ferrari car.  As is the "Dino" another namesake that applies to the Ferrari brand.  I view the name Shelby as a namesake to the Ford brand likewise.  That's all I meant by it.    Didn't mean nuthin' by it.  Just passin' the time.  What time do you close?  We close now.  Now is not a time.  What time do you close?  We close at dark.  Call it...

[shelbydoug]

The warranty on these cars is going to be significant as well. A three year/36 isn't going to cover the car if you have 60 payments.

I guess the design is just not doing it for me. The "Mustang" is just plain ugly. Sticking snakes on it at every opportunity is better then having skunk stripes that can clearly be seen from a spy satellite but not much better.

Just because the car isn't as ugly as the Mopar doughnut masters is little consequence to me?

I guess Detroit's Viagra just isn't working on me although the Lamborghini's must have modeled their designs on someone's ugly sister that they hide in the closet? So is the new beautiful like that puppy at the pound that is SO ugly it becomes cute?

It's an entirely new market out there and obviously I'm just not one of their peeps anymore? Whatever happened to the sleek designs of the '60s?  These designs look like they should be plowing the corn fields in Iowa? Maybe that's the market targets?

It's unlikely that anyone can recreate the production numbers on the CSX3000 cars to make them that valuable again but consider that there were only 335 427's built  because that's all ole' Shel' could convince back in the day?

So now the market is finding enough hedge fund speculators to take a chance on what is going to become valuable 40 years down the road?

[kjspeed]

It's irrelevant to me how quick the new GT500 is because it is so freaking ugly! And I sure wouldn't want to own one when it came time to start fixing things. As Doug said, once the 3/36 warranty expires you're on your own and I would guess almost any repair will consume piles of cash. That is something I would expect if I owned a limited production supercar such as the Ford GT. Not for a Mustang.

But that's just my opinion. For those of you who love the car and the design - enjoy it! Buy one and show your allegiance.

[FL SAAC]

+1

I agree that the Ferrari name is not a namesake however the "Enzo" is as it applies to a specific Ferrari car.  As is the "Dino" another namesake that applies to the Ferrari brand.  I view the name Shelby as a namesake to the Ford brand likewise.  That's all I meant by it.    Didn't mean nuthin' by it.  Just passin' the time.  What time do you close?  We close now.  Now is not a time.  What time do you close?  We close at dark.  Call it...

[FL SAAC]

great points on the warranty these will be engineering nightmares sooner or later

as far as ugly or beautiful, thats in the eye of the beholder

we for one love the new c8s lines, performance and of course it price making it more palatable at time of disposal...

The warranty on these cars is going to be significant as well. A three year/36 isn't going to cover the car if you have 60 payments.

I guess the design is just not doing it for me. The "Mustang" is just plain ugly. Sticking snakes on it at every opportunity is better then having skunk stripes that can clearly be seen from a spy satellite but not much better.

Just because the car isn't as ugly as the Mopar doughnut masters is little consequence to me?

I guess Detroit's Viagra just isn't working on me although the Lamborghini's must have modeled their designs on someone's ugly sister that they hide in the closet? So is the new beautiful like that puppy at the pound that is SO ugly it becomes cute?

It's an entirely new market out there and obviously I'm just not one of their peeps anymore? Whatever happened to the sleek designs of the '60s?  These designs look like they should be plowing the corn fields in Iowa? Maybe that's the market targets?

It's unlikely that anyone can recreate the production numbers on the CSX3000 cars to make them that valuable again but consider that there were only 335 427's built  because that's all ole' Shel' could convince back in the day?

So now the market is finding enough hedge fund speculators to take a chance on what is going to become valuable 40 years down the road?