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Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« on: November 18, 2019, 05:16:26 PM »
So some of the inaccurate parts of F v F have been mentioned in other threads but lets put them all up here. 
Like...

Ken Miles DID race LeMan in 65
The Daytona coupe in the background shots was...wrong


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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 05:51:17 PM »
I'm not sure it's fair to play dogpile on 100 million or so invested in getting the cars we love to the big screen but...ÖÖÖ..

24hr racers do not squeal the tires, or do burn outs......unless they want to finish last being in the pits changing worn tires
Enzo did not go to races, he rarely left Italy.
Ken Miles did not have a tenuous relationship with Shelby, he was refined, articulate and dedicated to all things Shelby
Racers do not pull up beside each other on 220mph straights and casually look over with the stink eye

I'd like to hear from those that knew Shelby if he was portrayed correctly, many that knew him are still alive

It's just great to see that a film like this was made, I'm happy regardless!!!

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 05:52:24 PM »
Not sure that we have enough space or time. Found it difficult to watch (follow along with the story at times) since the details would often distract me while watching. Tried to tell myself not to do it before I went into the theater - but I did.
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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 06:17:25 PM »
I believe it would be hard for someone with an eye trained for correctness to watch a movie like this and NOT see all the inaccuracies.  Understood.

On a separate note...what's the true value of this thread?  I'm sure there were numerous inaccuracies - some of which the movie makers were aware of, some probably not.  I'm not certain pointing them out gains anything in the long run.

After all, it was a movie, not a documentary.
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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 07:22:28 PM »
I thought thatís what we do on this forum.  Nitpick everything.  ;D

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
I thought thatís what we do on this forum.  Nitpick everything.  ;D

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 07:46:07 PM »
I enjoyed the movie for what it is...entertainment.
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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2019, 08:11:48 PM »
I thought thatís what we do on this forum.  Nitpick everything.  ;D

Jon

...Shelby was taller! ;)

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2019, 08:13:48 PM »
Im glad they made a movie about shelby. Im glad they gave the recognition to ken miles. Yes there were
some mistakes with the movie. Get over it. I have been involved with shelby mustangs since 1981. I
really enjoyed the movie. I could have picked the movie apart also, but i sat there and enjoyed every
second of the movie. You should too.

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2019, 08:29:10 PM »
Agreed. There are errors and misinformation. That's the case with virtually any movie that's based on anything close to real history.

But, consider this: If, ten years ago, we were each asked if we would put up with a handful of inaccuracies in exchange for having a major studio make a big-budget film with big-name stars, about Shelby, Miles and LeMans, I'll bet that 99.9999994% of us would've said "Hell yes, bring it on."

While watching the movie, I did turn to my pal and say "well, that never happened" a few times, but we still enjoyed it immensely.

I only wish that CS was around to have been a consultant, and for me to hear his comments (privately) about the finished product.  He might growl and huff a bit at the Hollywood process, but he would love the increased Shelby-name-recognition now on the tongue-tips of a whole new generation of people.    I like that too.

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2019, 08:45:34 PM »
I enjoyed the movie for what it is...entertainment.

The cars were a backdrop to the human story lines, nary a scene didn't have something inaccurate either in time line or background... Once I got accustomed to enjoying the story, It was more touching... BUT dang... a Mk IV, J Car, 727s on the ramp... It was done well cinematography, Exceptional acting, and a reasonable capture of something from over 50 years ago, rarely attempted. 
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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2019, 08:59:12 PM »
Donít get me wrong, I loved the movie and still canít believe it made the big screen.

I just thought we could make it a drinking game.  Every time something is incorrect, take a shot!

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2019, 09:22:06 PM »
The scene where Ken came in and said to get rid of the vacuum secondary carb. If you looked through the back window you could see 8 little K&N filters sticking up.

The red MKIV at the end was a painted up MKII

The J car he died in was a half hearted attempt at a J car replica.

When they were replacing the front suspension assembly in the pits the car they were installing it on still had it's spindle and control arms in place.

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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2019, 09:38:10 PM »
I would be unable to drive 10 minutes in!
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Re: Ford vs Ferrari inaccuracies
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2019, 11:53:08 PM »
It's the same feelings that my cousin had when he watched Top Gun in '86.  He was an F-14 pilot, one of the best in the Navy, and a Top Gun/Aggressor pilot.  It's tough to watch movies like that until you remember that they are for entertaining the masses....they are not documentaries.  I am just happy, as stated before, that the world has been introduced to that automotive history...when Ford ruled the 60's.  So many young people today driving their Subaru's and hopped up Hondas etc probably say "Ford?  Against Ferrari?  What about Lamborghini??!!"  Hopefully they will have some new found respect.