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Ram Box
« on: January 29, 2020, 02:41:07 PM »
Scooped this NOS ram box up.  Curious on how many were actually made in both single  & duel 4's.  Any other history would be cool to know too..

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2020, 02:46:17 PM »
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2020, 04:27:51 PM »
   They were in the various Shelby catalogs for several years. By FAR , the best cross ram made for a small block Ford. It could use some "filling" in the base to help direct air flow as a single four. Better than the T/A 289 dula plane ,dual four when the top is switched to run two fours. T/A22 , Gary Goeringer ran one on the Maier Racing '67 coupe he used to own. Well over a thousand were made.
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2020, 10:56:50 AM »
   They were in the various Shelby catalogs for several years. By FAR , the best cross ram made for a small block Ford. It could use some "filling" in the base to help direct air flow as a single four. Better than the T/A 289 dula plane ,dual four when the top is switched to run two fours. T/A22 , Gary Goeringer ran one on the Maier Racing '67 coupe he used to own. Well over a thousand were made.
    Randy


You just said that to make me want one right? ::)
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2020, 10:59:35 AM »
   No , just the facts. A Vic Jr or "real Parker funnel web makes more power.
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 11:08:06 AM »
   No , just the facts. A Vic Jr or "real Parker funnel web makes more power.

I don't deal in facts. Especially hurting ones like that. Ouch.  >:(

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2020, 11:15:46 AM »
What Randy says is true.........although the Maier car was a '68 S code coupe.  Another clarification...while the Box manifold(with single carburetor top) did make a few less HP than the much later technology of the Vic Jr or Parker(the best motor was 489 HP @7600), it did produce in excess of 400 ft/lbs of torque on a 305 ci engine with original/ported C6FE heads.  I dont know of many combos before or since that did. It was lightly massaged to prevent fuel puddling and performed flawlessly.

BTW, if anyone needs one of these, I still have one with a two carb top sitting at TOE...............PM me.

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2020, 11:43:15 AM »
    Thanks for chiming in Gary! The power you made with that engine certainly had the ( you know who) "GM" tounges wagging.
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 11:57:52 AM »
Fortunately, I had the correspondence from Senter(Ford) to Maier which proved the manifold was given to him prior to its official introduction and ran in a T/A event or two prior to Maier receiving a Boss 302 from H/M..............otherwise, I would have had to run another period appearing manifold...........

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 12:12:39 PM »
I still have mine with both tops the 4V and the 8V. The single 4 top is the rarer and more desirable. Jay Cushman was asking me if I was willing to part with mine. I essentially said no. The photo was from a couple months ago.
What I don’t have is the top cover gasket that FSTMRFR has.

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 12:25:37 PM »
.............we always made our own gaskets ............didnt know there were any NOS available

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2020, 12:48:44 PM »
What Randy says is true.........although the Maier car was a '68 S code coupe.  Another clarification...while the Box manifold(with single carburetor top) did make a few less HP than the much later technology of the Vic Jr or Parker(the best motor was 489 HP @7600), it did produce in excess of 400 ft/lbs of torque on a 305 ci engine with original/ported C6FE heads.  I dont know of many combos before or since that did. It was lightly massaged to prevent fuel puddling and performed flawlessly.

BTW, if anyone needs one of these, I still have one with a two carb top sitting at TOE...............PM me.

GG

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2020, 12:57:19 PM »
While on the subject of Ram Box’s and who else runs them Mark H./SFM5S170 his set up is very nice. I’d post a photo of his engine bay, but I think I’d need his permission to do so.

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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2020, 01:14:13 PM »
It won't fit with a/c will it?  :o
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Re: Ram Box
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2020, 07:02:38 PM »
It won't fit with a/c will it?  :o

Doug, sure it would, provided your 68 GT350 has a 302 based engine (8.2” deck block). It would be very cool in a 68. Here’s a few pics of the Bill Maier car (Gary Goeringer’s/TA22 old car) I took at the Rolex Reunion at Laguna the previous year. It’s a race car that gets photographed so I’m sure he won’t mind.

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