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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2020, 12:47:43 AM »
AC cars use a different array of pulleys.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2020, 07:33:54 AM »
I am hoping to replicate the factory AC.

You also need the Shelby oil cooler set up for that to be accurate.

I looked for years to find those at the "Conventions" and other shows and it was my observations that it was a very rare set uo. I think in over 40 years of looking I only found one car.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2020, 10:49:37 AM »
Already have the oil cooler setup. It came off a 68 but the color is the only thing different as I understand it. So how correct is the list of pulleys?
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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2020, 10:56:45 AM »
Not one of them is correct for AC. Do you have the C6AE-6316 428 PI damper?

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2020, 07:41:08 PM »
Yes I do and it came with a C1AE-6312-A cast iron double pulley which some people say is correct for an AC PS car. Others say I need the three groove steel pulley that covers up the groove that's cast into the balancer.

Did you say NONE of them is correct???  Just a few responses above Bob said that the C6AE-A water pump pulley was correct for 67 AC cars. This just keeps getting me more confused.
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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2020, 07:08:13 AM »
The damper/Balancer is a C6AE- A. Its use is limited to 428 PI and 1967 427 Fairlane. It's a pricey one at about 800.00-1000.00 in good shape. These are similar to the 64-5 427 damper. They incorporate one groove as part of the damper. The timing pointer is also limited to the 67 GT500, 428 PI. They are reproduced.
The non-AC cars use a single groove cast iron bolt on C1AE-A. The A/C cars use the stamped steel C5AE-D.


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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2020, 06:42:55 PM »
Trying to alleviate my confusion. I have the C1AE-A CI pulley and it is a 2 groove pulley. Others on this forum have stated that it is correct for non AC cars and the MustangTek site http://mustangtek.com/pulley/Pulley.html  confirms that info. I've been searching several forums for this info and one of them stated that AC cars got the C4AZ-6312-B steel pulley with two 7.76" grooves and one 6.1" groove with the smaller front groove driving the AC. The MustangTek site doesn't identify the correct pulley for a 67 GT500 AC car but identifies that C5AE-D pulley with three 7.76" grooves as correct for 390 and 428 Tbirds and fairlanes. Look, I'm not trying to argue I'm just trying to be certain of the correct parts because ALL of these parts are correct for SOME Shelby and therefor expensive. I don't mind paying the price I just want to know I'm paying the price for the part that's correct for my car.
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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2020, 08:22:22 PM »
I had both of those pulleys. Sold 'em both cheap. No one wanted them. Like $20 each.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2020, 10:38:36 PM »
The GT500 uses the C1AE-A for non-AC applications. Remember, GT500's are dual alternator belt driven. The A/C cars use a single belt to drive the alternator. The C5AE-A is correct for A/C cars.  I have a build sheet for an A/C car. So I will dig it out and take a look at it.
I know for fact the A/C crank pulley is what is pictured and listed.
Remember, you wanted something that was "correct in appearance"  The power steering pulley is going to set you back 500.00. It's a very expensive endeavor. I just got in about 10 minutes ago. I four days off this cycle. I should be able to put the list together for you or brackets and pulleys.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2020, 09:37:01 AM »
Thanks. My goal is to get the full list of correct parts and try to find, and purchase, them. If something is unobtainable or so rare that the price is unreasonable (PS pulley) then I'll investigate substitutes. I've already ordered the heads and internals so finding all the bolt-ons has moved up the priority list. Do I need to specify anything else on the build besides PS, AC, no TE to tie down the list?
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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2020, 09:53:13 AM »
Thanks. My goal is to get the full list of correct parts and try to find, and purchase, them. If something is unobtainable or so rare that the price is unreasonable (PS pulley) then I'll investigate substitutes. I've already ordered the heads and internals so finding all the bolt-ons has moved up the priority list. Do I need to specify anything else on the build besides PS, AC, no TE to tie down the list?

I'm pretty sure there were some very close repro's made of the PS pulley and some may still be around. They were about $250 each as I recall?

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2020, 12:00:35 PM »
There is a repro of the 7AC, not the 7AB. You could use the 80B in the 7ABs place.  However, the AC cars use the 7AC. I saw the reproduction for 300.00.
That's the only thing I haven't bought thus far. I am actually going to purchase one today. It has to go to the chrome plater anyway. The compressor, clutch, brackets, bolts and other pulleys are already there.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2020, 01:46:53 PM »
We may be dealing with typos on top of everything else. I looked up the C5AE-A crank pulley and that's a single groove pulley which doesn't seem like it could work. Did I misunderstand?

http://www.mustangtek.com/pulley/C5AE-A_1.html
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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2020, 03:13:08 PM »
Forgive me. I was on my cell in the lounge before departure and didn't proof read. The crank pulley is C5AE-D. It's a three groove pulley and of the stamped steel variety.

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Re: Suitable fan, clutch, pulley for 67 GT500
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2020, 04:43:49 PM »
OK. So far we seem to have corrected my list to:

Crank pulley  C5AE-D
PS pulley      7AC
Water pump pulley   C6AE-A

Can I get an Amen (concurrence) from any of the concours judges?
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