What Oil

[Side-Oilers]

Trivia:  Anyone remember Arco Graphite that came out in the mid-Seventies?  It also was black, coming out of the can.

I put that in a SB Chevy and the oil temp immediately went up about 15 degrees.  Drained it after a couple of weeks and returned to Castrol GTX 10-40.  Oil temp returned to normal.

l also remember that, when my car dripped the Arco onto the driveway, it was almost impossible to get the stain out.

IIRC, the reason graphite oil wasn't sold for very long was that the graphite had a problem staying suspended in the oil. Which contributed to sludge.

[deathsled]

Just goes to show how our bodies can exist in tandem with our cars. The automotive atoms are just arranged differently than a human's. They are all atoms however. When you're driving and have a close call you usually say that car nearly hit "me" as opposed to nearly hit "my car." We are one with the automobile when we are behind the wheel. So I say yes to the zinc for car and man! And no to sludge in our engines or bodies.

[FL SAAC]

What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. ...

[shelbydoug]

Just goes to show how our bodies can exist in tandem with our cars. The automotive atoms are just arranged differently than a human's. They are all atoms however. When you're driving and have a close call you usually say that car nearly hit "me" as opposed to nearly hit "my car." We are one with the automobile when we are behind the wheel. So I say yes to the zinc for car and man! And no to sludge in our engines or bodies.

Adams in a Shelby are ok. You don't want any Eves in it.

That Arco may have been the stuff that would eat the oil pan gaskets? I remember it leaking on my Dad's asphalt driveway, leaving a hole and sinking to the center of the earth?

There is something about certain radioactive materials doing that too? I don't remember if it glowed?

[mark p]

Trivia:  Anyone remember Arco Graphite that came out in the mid-Seventies?  It also was black, coming out of the can.
I put that in a SB Chevy and the oil temp immediately went up about 15 degrees.  Drained it after a couple of weeks and returned to Castrol GTX 10-40.  Oil temp returned to normal.
l also remember that, when my car dripped the Arco onto the driveway, it was almost impossible to get the stain out.
IIRC, the reason graphite oil wasn't sold for very long was that the graphite had a problem staying suspended in the oil. Which contributed to sludge.

Wow, that's a somewhat different story than my experience, but maybe more representative of the general market?
I used ARCO Graphite in my new "iron duke" 1980 Pontiac from the day it was out of warranty (12k miles back then) until it was no longer available. I sold that car at about 115k, was still running great.
IIRC, I tracked a slight increase in fuel mileage (very important in the 80's).
I specifically recall my conversation with the service manager at the dealership when they plasti-gauged the mains at 93k (+/-) miles - drivetrain was out for new clutch... the mechanic wanted to know if the engine had just been rebuilt - since everything checked as if freshly done.

I do 100% agree on the difficulty of clean up. It stayed on my hands forever!
However, the [many] leaks from that Phoenix were easily identified on my epoxy coated garage floor - they were all "color coded"... oil=black, trans fluid=red (yes, Dexron in a fwd 4-spd), coolant=green, etc 

[The Going Thing]

Zinc is an absolute for ANY flat tappet cam. At the recommendation of the FE forum I tried the VR1 10-30 instead of the Penn Grade I was running. I lost about 6 psi at idle hot and 10 psi at cruise idle. I went back to 30WT Penn Grade today.  I don't run the Shell oil anymore. It's not the same formula. I also avoid synthetics for older engines.  Penn Grade is old school Kendal.

[FL SAAC]

At this point in my life the discussion of oil is stale. I highly reccomend using fresh Wesson oil, currently on sale at walmart for $6.58 a gallon.

Before I sign off just yesterday my motor developed a klink-klank-ping sound. Would anyone know or care to mention why that is ? klink-klank-ping...

[427heaven]

Was that followed by a PUFF PUFF SOUND.

[FL SAAC]

No, no, no, klink-klank-ping, klink-klank-ping, klink-klank-ping and I'm sticking to it.

By the way woul you have dz844ce3 thingamagig....you see my crystal ball has shattered .....klink-klank-ping

Was that followed by a PUFF PUFF SOUND.

[427heaven]

That only happens to people that live in warmer climates having a good time, I would suggest stop going to car shows- Fancy Hotels- deep sea fishing expeditions- and having adult beverages on crystal clear beaches. The noises you perceive will begin to subside... Hope this helps.

[shelbydoug]

That only happens to people that live in warmer climates having a good time, I would suggest stop going to car shows- Fancy Hotels- deep sea fishing expeditions- and having adult beverages on crystal clear beaches. The noises you perceive will begin to subside... Hope this helps.

On the beach I ignore sounds and just look for jiggling here and there.

[gt350hr]

   Looking at your stomach while you breath?

[mygt350]

Damn. Started out about oil and then went to Randy looking at Dougs stomach bounce....
Geez...

[FL SAAC]

Back to oil

I highly reccomend to all the owners of forgein cars or fru-frus or concourse crowd to use this imported oil.

Gone fishing... lol

[shelbydoug]

   Looking at your stomach while you breath?

That's not a jiggle.