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68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« on: March 20, 2020, 11:41:17 AM »
So, I have some time on my hands these days... Yay, quarantine

Wondering if anyone has detailed photos of a 68 PI together on a stand just before install? I’d love to have an out-of-the-car reference, if possible.

Also, what is conventional wisdom when it comes to installing components on the engine and inn the engine bay before dropping the drivetrain back in? I’ve never reinstalled a BB motor/trans, only SB’s which have all the room. Can I sneak the drivetrain in with the brake booster and master preinstalled? Any other best practices I should know?

Any wisdom and imagery from your vaults would be greatly appreciated! I WILL get this car back together during this CA lockdown.

With the communities blessing, I’d like to exercise humility and operate with the motto that “there are no stupid questions”. I’ve feel like I’ve done my research and I have *most* of my ducks in a row. Admittedly, one major mistake I made was during disassembly - 2 or 3 years ago now - I went light on pictures. Foolishly, I expected the engine rebuild to be done in a matter of weeks (based on past experience with the builder) and that turned into a year and a half... so my memory is very, very faded.

So, I ask - would a single thread be the best way to ask all of my questions, would you rather I bombard you with individual posts, or keep my mouth shut and let my ego wing it?



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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2020, 11:58:10 AM »
Leave the booster out. Notice the use of cardboard and foam rubber matting.

She's tight but it fits.

Have a look at this while I find a few pictures for you.

https://youtu.be/w4iS2vaA79I
« Last Edit: March 20, 2020, 12:16:18 PM by Chris Thauberger »
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2020, 12:12:46 PM »
This is what I was able to find quickly.

Let me know if you need something specific and I can look through what I have.

IIRC these were from a group of photos I posted for everyone to critique before I installed it in the car.

If you would prefer Hi-res I can always email you.

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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2020, 01:29:29 PM »
I like that bra-clip on the vacuum hoses. Where do you get them?
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »
Way to go, Chris!  I am adding two photos that show my PI dripping wet to give a different look at the process.
Good to see progress, Milo.
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2020, 04:01:10 PM »
Can anybody document the red on the dist advance? Don't recall seeing that on a 69 anyway is that a 68 thing?
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2020, 04:44:50 PM »
I think I bought that distributor from Bob G, I can’t remember anymore bought way too many parts.
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 05:05:31 PM »
I realize why Ford did it at the factory (easier) but does painting the water pump bypass hose weaken it in any way? 

Wouldn't a rubber hose prefer to be unpainted?
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2020, 05:15:18 PM »
The bypass hose was a special thicker wall high pressure type hose not a piece of heater hose like I have seen many people use that ends up swelling up from the heat and water pressure.

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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2020, 05:19:45 PM »
I think I bought that distributor from Bob G, I can’t remember anymore bought way too many parts.
Sorry I don't remember selling it . Must have already been on the advance if I did because I have not had a reason to mark a advance in that way .
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2020, 05:21:01 PM »
The bypass hose was a special thicker wall high pressure type hose not a piece of heater hose like I have seen many people use that ends up swelling up from the heat and water pressure.
+1 . To add  - painting it will not adversely effect it.
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2020, 05:22:45 PM »
Thanks Ed and Bob for the explanation.
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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2020, 07:53:37 PM »
This video is AMAZING. I do love how easy a time lapse can make an install look.

The cardboard and foam rubber matting is brilliant, as is the use of the ratchet strap to get that extra tilt... noted and noted. What were the straps that you used to connect to the engine hoist leveler? They look a bit like the wheel tie-downs I have for towing, but I’m sure yours are longer than what I have. They look a lot easier to work with than the alternative.

Also, glad to see I wasn’t crazy for wanting to attach the first run of the exhaust to the manifolds before install.

Do you happen to have any photos of the engine bay with the engine out? Want to make sure i get the firewall area right before I lose most of the access.



Leave the booster out. Notice the use of cardboard and foam rubber matting.

She's tight but it fits.

Have a look at this while I find a few pictures for you.

https://youtu.be/w4iS2vaA79I
1968 Shelby GT500 #685 Wimbledon White
1969 CJ Mach 1, R-code 4-speed Black Jade
1965 GT vert, A-code 4-speed Poppy Red
1974 Bronco 302, Auto, Sniper EFI, 4-disc, Ivy
1972 Bronco Coyote
1968 F-250 Camper Special 390

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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM »
So, I mocked it up today. Any comments or corrections? Like maybe how to rotate images...!



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1968 Shelby GT500 #685 Wimbledon White
1969 CJ Mach 1, R-code 4-speed Black Jade
1965 GT vert, A-code 4-speed Poppy Red
1974 Bronco 302, Auto, Sniper EFI, 4-disc, Ivy
1972 Bronco Coyote
1968 F-250 Camper Special 390

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Re: 68 GT500 Engine details and installation.
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2020, 06:35:29 PM »
Also, does can anyone tell me what these few pieces are for?
1968 Shelby GT500 #685 Wimbledon White
1969 CJ Mach 1, R-code 4-speed Black Jade
1965 GT vert, A-code 4-speed Poppy Red
1974 Bronco 302, Auto, Sniper EFI, 4-disc, Ivy
1972 Bronco Coyote
1968 F-250 Camper Special 390