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Re: SAAC is not living up to it's purpose
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2020, 12:50:51 AM »
It boils down to cost, when something is copied it is a form of flatery. A simple observation of lets use jewelry as an example, Millions of cubic zirconias have been sold simply because of cost ,they look and feel like the real thing but are not. Trying to look the part can be just as rewarding for the car crowd if you can't pull it off financially. Enjoy the DIAMONDS... SHELBYS... or ZIRCONIAS its all about the enjoyment! Be safe out there.



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        WHAT TIME IS IT!!!  Its FLAVA FLAV time. Last seen driving a fake COBRA down into south central L.A. Its all good we love fake cobras also. The most copied kit car on the planet! ;D


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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2020, 01:08:55 AM »
It boils down to cost, when something is copied it is a form of flatery. A simple observation of lets use jewelry as an example, Millions of cubic zirconias have been sold simply because of cost ,they look and feel like the real thing but are not. Trying to look the part can be just as rewarding for the car crowd if you can't pull it off financially. Enjoy the DIAMONDS... SHELBYS... or ZIRCONIAS its all about the enjoyment! Be safe out there.

That's not a mouse...  Moving along.  ;)

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        WHAT TIME IS IT!!!  Its FLAVA FLAV time. Last seen driving a fake COBRA down into south central L.A. Its all good we love fake cobras also. The most copied kit car on the planet! ;D


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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2020, 07:19:24 AM »
Wait just a moment...Is someone suggesting there are FAKE Cobras running around out there? What's this all about?

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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2020, 07:33:18 AM »
He said “Kit car” in his last sentence. I don’t think he meant fake as in a VIN tag being swapped to a kit. I’m sure most here would spot it right away.

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« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2020, 08:12:31 AM »
Good morning Senor Ned, we affectionately call these fobras


Wait just a moment...Is someone suggesting there are FAKE Cobras running around out there? What's this all about?
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« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2020, 10:00:23 AM »
By FAKE  I mean anything that wasn't produced at SHELBY AMERICAN during that original run of real cars from 1963 - 1967. No FOBRAS... FAKYDOOS ... KIT CARS... CONTINUATION CARS... 4000 SERIES TO 8000 SERIES CARS... Parts found weathering in the desert that someone forgot miraculously, The list is long, but the facts are, many of these are actually better then the originals and many on here own or have owned one of these including myself. A couple of examples are KIWIS and RUBENS cars, They are faster, better looking, better engineered, so when it comes to I vs WE there are many on here that would agree that there is just as much or more fun factor,built into these cars that could run circles around an original. Most of those are enjoyed daily, while the others collect dust in corners of shops and garages worldwide.

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« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2020, 11:10:25 AM »
By FAKE  I mean anything that wasn't produced at SHELBY AMERICAN during that original run of real cars from 1963 - 1967. No FOBRAS... FAKYDOOS ... KIT CARS... CONTINUATION CARS... 4000 SERIES TO 8000 SERIES CARS... Parts found weathering in the desert that someone forgot miraculously, The list is long, but the facts are, many of these are actually better then the originals and many on here own or have owned one of these including myself. A couple of examples are KIWIS and RUBENS cars, They are faster, better looking, better engineered, so when it comes to I vs WE there are many on here that would agree that there is just as much or more fun factor,built into these cars that could run circles around an original. Most of those are enjoyed daily, while the others collect dust in corners of shops and garages worldwide.


You appear to confuse your opinion with facts. You like fake things others do not, you think fake Cobras are better then the original other do not. You need to start using "I" a lot more.  ;)

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« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2020, 11:40:24 AM »
By FAKE  I mean anything that wasn't produced at SHELBY AMERICAN during that original run of real cars from 1963 - 1967. No FOBRAS... FAKYDOOS ... KIT CARS... CONTINUATION CARS... 4000 SERIES TO 8000 SERIES CARS... Parts found weathering in the desert that someone forgot miraculously, The list is long, but the facts are, many of these are actually better then the originals and many on here own or have owned one of these including myself. A couple of examples are KIWIS and RUBENS cars, They are faster, better looking, better engineered, so when it comes to I vs WE there are many on here that would agree that there is just as much or more fun factor,built into these cars that could run circles around an original. Most of those are enjoyed daily, while the others collect dust in corners of shops and garages worldwide.
.   I doubt if “most” people  “enjoy” their replicas daily(many ways to “enjoy” a car,but I am assuming you mean driving) as they are not “practical” drivers.As far as the original cars ,they are not “practical” drivers ,but you might be surprised how often many owners (especially long term owners) “enjoy” their cars.One size don’t fit all in this case IMHO.Too simplistic...... ;)

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« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2020, 03:27:10 PM »
We all have our preferences...and what our budgets can afford.  I'd own a real 427 Cobra if I could spend the major bucks it takes to buy one these days. 

As a "consolation prize", in 2017, I bought a superb Kirkham 427 from Bruce Canepa, and that our own "Mr Cobra" himself told me he'd buy if I didn't.  That was good enough validation for me. 

I'm thrilled with it, and drive it about once a week.

I also own a KR with a 427. It's fun too, but gets much less exercise than the Kirkham.

So...Real vs Replica?  Depends on a whole bunch of factors.  I'm happy with one of each.
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« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2020, 06:27:23 PM »
I enjoyed the part about how the fake Cobras are better-looking than the originals and can run rings around them. Uh-huh.

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« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2020, 08:50:21 PM »
After going through a true restoration on my 67 Shelby I know what the cost are, even if you do the vast majority of the work yourself.  A well built replica is  probably at minimum a 100,000 investment .
I don't see anyone turning their nose at the endless number of Cobra kit cars that exist and are still being produced, which far exceed the number of replica Shelby Mustangs.
Truth be known; I have seen two or three cars out over 30 years on a pleasure drive, getting food at a drive-thru or even a Starbucks.  (I do at least once a week weather providing)
The vehicles that actually bother me are the Eleanor cars. I hate it when people call my Shelby that. No, it's a 1967 Shelby GT 500. The other isn't anymore true to a Shelby than the Batmobile.
I think Shelby selling his name to any Tom, Dick or Harry that wanted to produce something with his name on it made me sick. It  diluted the Shelby  name and much of the real heritage in my opinion.


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« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2020, 09:59:25 PM »
We all have our preferences...and what our budgets can afford.  I'd own a real 427 Cobra if I could spend the major bucks it takes to buy one these days. 

As a "consolation prize", in 2017, I bought a superb Kirkham 427 from Bruce Canepa, and that our own "Mr Cobra" himself told me he'd buy if I didn't.  That was good enough validation for me. 

I'm thrilled with it, and drive it about once a week.

I also own a KR with a 427. It's fun too, but gets much less exercise than the Kirkham.

So...Real vs Replica?  Depends on a whole bunch of factors.  I'm happy with one of each.

You have damn fine taste.

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« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2020, 10:03:08 PM »
After going through a true restoration on my 67 Shelby I know what the cost are, even if you do the vast majority of the work yourself.  A well built replica is  probably at minimum a 100,000 investment .
I don't see anyone turning their nose at the endless number of Cobra kit cars that exist and are still being produced, which far exceed the number of replica Shelby Mustangs.
Truth be known; I have seen two or three cars out over 30 years on a pleasure drive, getting food at a drive-thru or even a Starbucks.  (I do at least once a week weather providing)
The vehicles that actually bother me are the Eleanor cars. I hate it when people call my Shelby that. No, it's a 1967 Shelby GT 500. The other isn't anymore true to a Shelby than the Batmobile.
I think Shelby selling his name to any Tom, Dick or Harry that wanted to produce something with his name on it made me sick. It  diluted the Shelby  name and much of the real heritage in my opinion.

I don't think CS was involved with the Eleanor licensing thing;

https://www.eleanor-mustang.com/history.html

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« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2020, 10:03:34 PM »
When people refer to my car as an “Eleanor” I always politely correct them the same way:”Eleanor was a replica this is a REAL Shelby”.Simple and concise IMHO.

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« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2020, 10:46:26 PM »
I do the same.  "Eleanor" is a Halicki Mustang, not a Shelby.  No Shelby License on the design or the name, even if someone has a CS signature on the dash. 8)