Do these 2 look original? theres no numbers on them but I know they are very old.
more pics
They need a lot of work but they do look OE!
barn find
Barn find scoops or whole car?
look like later versions, the "capped" snout for the ducting.
Note where the chunk is missing on the lower scoop, first image, directly below there just inside the lip below you may see a part number...
Edit: Image added showing part numbers inside scoop opening...
no just a bunch of parts, most of which I have already sold but just ran across these
Yes those are definitely original scoops as everthing I see is consistent with what originals look like.
As JD stated they are later 67 so non function lower cars . Serial #
Ballpark cars numbered 1550 and above. As I believe the change over is between 1550 and 1650
Thanks guys
Quote from: DC-DD on April 09, 2020, 01:23:11 PM
Yes those are definitely original scoops as everthing I see is consistent with what originals look like.
As JD stated they are later 67 so non function lower cars . Serial #
Ballpark cars numbered 1550 and above. As I believe the change over is between 1550 and 1650
I understand that SA would often use up old stocks of parts and if they had stock of functional lower scoops lying around they might have modified them to use on a body with no ducting holes in the sheet metal. So it seems odd that #2751 has fully functioning scoops, holed sheet metal and internal ducting installed.
Looking at the parts and workmanship, and knowing something of the history of my car, I don't believe this was an after-market installation.
Any thoughts?
David.
Perhaps previous owner ... is one possibility
Quote from: Skidado on April 11, 2020, 02:48:11 AM
Quote from: DC-DD on April 09, 2020, 01:23:11 PM
Yes those are definitely original scoops as everthing I see is consistent with what originals look like.
As JD stated they are later 67 so non function lower cars . Serial #
Ballpark cars numbered 1550 and above. As I believe the change over is between 1550 and 1650
I understand that SA would often use up old stocks of parts and if they had stock of functional lower scoops lying around they might have modified them to use on a body with no ducting holes in the sheet metal. So it seems odd that #2751 has fully functioning scoops, holed sheet metal and internal ducting installed.
Looking at the parts and workmanship, and knowing something of the history of my car, I don't believe this was an after-market installation.
Any thoughts?
David.
It was not an uncommon thing for owners to add the ducting. Service parts were available for a few years and all you needed was a hole saw of the right size and a pop-rivet gun.
Cars were being modified with the lowered a-arms, headers, Traction-master underides and "dealer installed 427's". Performance wasn't left to the factory only.
Quote from: Skidado on April 11, 2020, 02:48:11 AM
Quote from: DC-DD on April 09, 2020, 01:23:11 PM
Yes those are definitely original scoops as everthing I see is consistent with what originals look like.
As JD stated they are later 67 so non function lower cars . Serial #
Ballpark cars numbered 1550 and above. As I believe the change over is between 1550 and 1650
I understand that SA would often use up old stocks of parts and if they had stock of functional lower scoops lying around they might have modified them to use on a body with no ducting holes in the sheet metal. So it seems odd that #2751 has fully functioning scoops, holed sheet metal and internal ducting installed.
Looking at the parts and workmanship, and knowing something of the history of my car, I don't believe this was an after-market installation.
Any thoughts?
David.
My first thought is what is more likely? Is it more likely a previous owner addition? Or is it more likely a factory installed thousand car out of sequence designated obsolete more labor intensive procedure using found parts that the factory should have used up previously? More likely a PO modification IMO.
Not to steal Jay's thread but what do I have? These are off #1594. They make zero sense in the 67 Shelby world! As far I know, they've never been replaced? I know the two previous owners and they never did any replacements? The lower scoop looks legit but with no part number. The upper has j nuts on it no studs and only three? The end caps have miniature rivets holding but plates for bolts instead of studs again! Crazy!!
My lower scoops are functional. The studs have a plate that is riveted to the scoop. They look like they may have had repairs on the studs.
There are so many variants on the 67 they may be exactly as supplied for a time period. The hoses were pop-riveted to the ducts.
Quote from: JD on April 11, 2020, 07:43:14 AM
Perhaps previous owner ... is one possibility
You're absolutely right! I just checked with the original owner who confirmed that since he was disappointed that his car did not have functioning ducts, he added them early on in his ownership.
Another mystery solved! 😁
David
Quote from: 67GT500#1594 on April 11, 2020, 01:52:03 PM
Not to steal Jay’s thread but what do I have? These are off #1594. They make zero sense in the 67 Shelby world! As far I know, they’ve never been replaced? I know the two previous owners and they never did any replacements? The lower scoop looks legit but with no part number. The upper has j nuts on it no studs and only three? The end caps have miniature rivets holding but plates for bolts instead of studs again! Crazy!!
I think the scoops are a version that was used. See attached for location of part number on upper scoop.
I've not seen the riveted "nut" on an end cap, others will know more.
JD: The riveted nut plate was on the lower side scoop. I apologize if If that was a confusing statement.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 18, 2020, 07:37:03 PM
JD: The riveted nut plate was on the lower side scoop. I apologize if If that was a confusing statement.
Keith, I understand.
Sorry all if my comment wasn't clear, I was referring that comment to the end cap image that "GT500#1594" posted.
Yes, see attached, the one(s) you have and described are a variation as well regarding the lower scoops.
Sorry, JD. I thought I had created some confusion with my post.