I got up late today and weighed myself and concluded that I need to trim a good 5 to 8 pounds before it gets out of control. 178 pounds is too much for 5'11" I need to get back to 170 or bust. I don't want to add any more weight to my Hertz than necessary when I sit in it. "If it doesn't make it go fast, it makes it go slow." I am doing a 16:8 intermittent fasting routine. I watched this guy for inspiration but he's rather harsh so don't watch if the F bomb and nasty insults get to you. I think he's quite amusing though his fasting duration might be questionable.
The dangers of sitting all day...which I do...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjdAwJrsx8w
That is really funny! And accurate.
Looks like it works but hard to do a 48 or 72 hour fast. I'm doing 16 hours now. No food after 5 pm and 8 hour eating window. Breakfast again at 9 am.
https://www.instagram.com/snake_diet_wizard/?hl=en
Some dramatic results. Hey my Shelby stays in shape. I need to as well.
Diet AND exercise is the "magic formula"..
Across the board we have lost 10 to 12 pounds. Now to some of you that may sound great being stuck in the house eating take out Pizza and drinking beer?
It doesn't seem to matter where you started at? I started at 225 and am hovering around 210. My son, 240 to 225 or so. Daughter, 125 to 112ish. Wifey is confidential? ;)
The issue here is that is the bad kind of weight loss with apparently almost all of it due to dehydration.
So although our symptoms have almost all left, except for a tickling cough that just wants to hang around and upset anyone who hears it, it still is leaving us wobbly after being on our feet for too long.
So probably if you want to loose some weight, the virus can probably help there, and yes, it goes after your entire respiratory system and there may be some secondary complications? Maybe but not necessarily. Liver, heart, kidneys, etc. No telling where it will nest up yet?
I had a friend about 10 years ago that had a flu that attacked his heart. He was waiting for a transplant? I haven't heard? Think he died?
...and to add to the discussion, there have been some reports coming out of South Korea that there may have been some that were thought to be cleared and with anti-bodies that are re-testing as positive? That was just the initial report with no follow ups as yet?
But 10 to 12 pounds lost seems to be about the average number? You can tighten up those abs? ;)
...oh, make sure everyone knows you love 'em and take the Shelby out for a ride when you can...you just never know when it could be the last time? ;)
OK Folks, LOWER YOUR CARS and or CUT THEM OUT AS BEST AS YOU CAN.
I am diabetic, this is what I do.
Sunday night is my last meal until Monday night, depending on the day, I either skip breakfast or lunch. I eat as LOW carbs as I can.
Breads, BAD. Pasta, BAD. Fruits, some bad, some OK but not good. Vegies, some also bad and some good. ALL BREADS are bad, do not kid yourself. WALKING, great for you, do it! That is if you hate the gym, and we cannot go there at this time.
Follow what is known as the Keto diet as best as you want/or can. LOWER CARBS!
In my case, my diabetes is REVERSING! I have lost weight! I feel great! Doctors are confused and mad because I am NOT following the poison that the ADA recommends. (Ihave done that for years and saw my A1C continue to just go up as they added more meds). Glad I am done with the ADA! You can find nicer people on UTube...I have found a few that I listen to.
I am not a Dr. but I have myself for proof!
If you are lucky enough to have a garden,gardening can provide a surprising amount of non contact aerobic exercise.Mine has never looked better.Plus,it's the season.Be safe...
I understand more than you know. I had a rough time after being left on Steriods for 14 months. I had to lose all the weight I gained. Not easy to do, and even more so as a diabetic. The Metformin isn't so bad, but everything else is just that. When I went into a hyperosmolar coma post the infection from back surgery I had an HbA1C of 9. I am now at 5.2. Keep it up! You're doing great. Dr's aren't god and I am very quick to remind them. If you don't like what they're prescribing and they don't like you questioning their treatment move on!
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 12, 2020, 11:43:01 AM
I understand more than you know. I had a rough time after being left on Steriods for 14 months. I had to lose all the weight I gained. Not easy to do, and even more so as a diabetic. The Metformin isn't so bad, but everything else is just that. When I went into a hyperosmolar coma post the infection from back surgery I had an HbA1C of 9. I am now at 5.2. Keep it up! You're doing great. Dr's aren't god and I am very quick to remind them. If you don't like what they're prescribing and they don't like you questioning their treatment move on!
;)
Here is a lengthy interview with this guy by two bodybuilders. He's a little more collected. Makes what sounds like many valid points. As important as it is to have our cars running like well oiled machines, we need to do the same for ourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1siTRCBAM
I'm going out walking. Got on the Nordictrack ski machine for 5 k this morning with some weight training.
My younger son Matt is a powerlifter. He is currently just under the NYS record of (I think) 468 pounds.
Apparently dehydration is a sneaky bi-product of this virus.
As I recall, at 20% you are dead, 15% comotose, 10% really weak, and on your back, at 5% wobbly and should act cautiously.
I personally am at the 5% mark. I need to hydrate.
There is some kind of connection. At desert conditions, 5% relative humidity, we loose one quart of water per hour through our breath.
This virus seems to leave a coating on the broncolis. Very similar to bonchitis or walking pneumonia. But it's sneaky. You don't feel it but the doc can hear you weasing without much trouble?
At some point your body decides to readjust to the new weight you are at but technically you are still dehydrated. All precautions for dehydration should be acknowledged and treated as best you can. It wouldn't be a bad idea to go with an IV.
Athletes are now doing this in the middle of the game they are involved in.
The problem here is that unless you yourself are medical personel, and can treat youself, eveyone else is so freakin' busy and EXHAUSTED that they just advise you on what to do.
Right now that is "hydrate". You need to drop caphine out of the formula. Water is best but if you can stomach it, Pedialite or Gator aid does help.
I feel my strength coming up but I'd rate myself at around 60%. Better then before at 50/50, but nowhere near the endurance that's even "normal"? It's just frustrating in the slow recovery and bordom of keeping busy.
I need to go write a song? ;D Lots of base and drums like headers and solid lifters?
Wow Shelbydoug, I see you are in New York from your profile, right around the epicenter of the US outbreak. Keep strong. It sounds like a really insidious virus.
Quote from: deathsled on April 12, 2020, 02:18:53 PM
Wow Shelbydoug, I see you are in New York from your profile, right around the epicenter of the US outbreak. Keep strong. It sounds like a really insidious virus.
We are right in the middle of it. Hunkered down like everyone else is.
Lots of motorcycles running up the Sprain at WOT. I don't see or hear any high speed pursuit.
In all honesty, when there is a group of them running WOT at 150 plus there isn't much pursuit that you can do? Someone's having a good time out there? ;D
It's ironic but when we go to a track like VIR it sounds just like home?
Here's something for you shelbydoug to raise you and your family's spirits and beat that virus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf4WiW3Sijw
Quote from: deathsled on April 12, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
Here's something for you shelbydoug to raise you and your family's spirits and beat that virus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf4WiW3Sijw
Deathsled? I didn't know you were so pretty? Wanna' go for coffee and a doughnut maybe? ;D
I can't show wifey that. She's very jealous and possessive. It's got to be on the qt? ;)
Great subject! At all our HPDE events, we constantly remind our students to stay hydrated especially in the hot Summer. Maintaining mental and physical focus while on track is paramount. Heat stroke can come on quickly and, after a certain point, can be fatal. Just an observation but I see folks spend thousands of dollars getting weight out of their track cars but they, themselves, may be overweight. Getting their BMI within limits would help their health and their performance on track.
And I thought I was bad at 5 to 8 pounds overweight.
GreAt way to loose weight.
Do a proper oil change.
Old Skool
On ur back
Then dispose oil properly.
Then tend to bruised body parts.
During those 2 hours don't eat.
Then rotate tires.
Movement is the key. My Towncar was due for an oil change today but I am staying away from the stores. It's going to have to endure another week or two on 3200 plus mile oil.
Diabetes definitely complicates the treatment, the reaction to the virus and the recovery.
Eventually we should have enough data to predict the variations on this particular virus and thus the dangers?
I've had flues that if I was in poor health would have killed me for sure. Some take quite a while to completely recover from?
This particular one just hits some one frail like a freight train and runs over them.
It is currently thought to be age sensitive but we have lost enough teenagers and 20 somethings to indicate that there is something else going on.
Vaping seems to make one more susceptible as smoking the funny weed does? Something to consider?
It's such a drop off the cliff that there is no time for the Medical folks to throw anything at it.
The ultimate hope is that there will be a safe and effective vaccine. That may be a year away?
Doug: If Bill Gates is involved with the vaccine I'm not taking it. And no. They are talking about fall now. Perfect timing. There are no young people lacking health issues dying from this. We hear nothing of the vast amount of people recovering or never becoming ill enough to require any real formal treatment.
We also know the Hydroxychloroquine and Zpak has been effective in several hundred test cases. Bill Gates openly admitted the vaccine he was working would have an ID system included in them. Think about this. There is a reason they are avoiding the obvious.
Lots of issues agreed, and lots of bridges to be crossed but my thought is that "socially" there is going to be the need to show that "every individual" walking around free is not going to be a threat to spread the virus or start it all up again?
Logically, how can you do that unless you can show that you are not infelicitous without some sort of document that shows you have been inoculated against it.
I grew up during the polio pandemic. It took a while for the vaccinations to catch up.
Because of negative reactions to like you have to Gates (no argument from me) it is going to be best to not "title" these things.
Hopefully they will be very safe and highly effective? Of course, the sooner the better but it can't be artificially accelerated.
In addition, it doesn't help anything to have some people with a talk shows to say things like the people that have already died, "were already on deaths door", and in effect say things like, "let them die and decrease the surplus population"? It helps nothing and stokes the flames.
They should know better. Put a heavy bag in the garage and basement, and go hit it. Hit it until you can't any more. Feel the pain in your hands yourself. Keep it to yourself.
Are we already counting and rationalizing casualties? There will be enough accountability down the road and the rationalization will come in what could have been done to reduce those casualties by reacting to the early warnings responsibly.
Simply put, I don't want to be the one in charge when the enemy is at the gate. When the enemy is within the compound on my watch, I already know what is going to happen. There is no excuse. An explanation possibly but no excuse.
My Shelby is indeed a magical devise, a time machine and takes me to places that exist sometimes only in my thoughts but it has it's limitations. It's a machine that can be replaced. My friends and family can't be.
May everyone's realities be pleasant ones. 8)
OMG did someone mention Bill Gates, the devil himself!
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 14, 2020, 09:13:09 AM
OMG did someone mention Bill Gates, the devil himself!
Ssssh! The Devil appears when you speak his (her) name! Hush!
QuoteAre we already counting and rationalizing casualties?
We've been doing that for decades. Without minimizing or ignoring the heartache, suffering and sadness of any death, as a society we eventually come to a consensus of what an acceptable number is for a variety of mortalities; flying, driving, alcohol and drug use/abuse, etc. This includes mortality as it relates to illness, sickness, virus, etc. This consensus sometimes changes over time, usually becoming less tolerant of 'dangerous' behavior and/or practices and accounting for new technologies that can help reduce the mortality related to that behavior or activity.
As an example, I would often get in discussions with my father about motor vehicle safety. It would start with him saying something like "People shouldn't be allowed to ride motorcycles without a helmet" (Florida rescinded their helmet law years ago). I would ask him why. Of course, the reason was to save lives. So, playing the devil's advocate I would ask him - why not outlaw motorcycles altogether? Then you would have zero motorcycle fatalities or injuries. Then we would move on to automobiles. Seat belt laws. His position; everyone should have to buckle up, again so we can save lives and reduce injuries. Then I would ask him, if saving lives and reducing injuries was the ultimate goal, why not require full roll cages, helmets, fire suits, five point belts, fire suppression equipment and annual proficiency tests for drivers? You would save a hell of a lot more lives if you implemented all of those protocols. He would just shake his head and I would smile. We both knew that what we were talking about was what constituted an acceptable risk. His risk tolerance level was much lower than mine.
He's been gone 6 years now and I miss those discussions. His end came courtesy of melanoma cancer. Probably as a result of sunlight. And in his final 40-50 years (he lived to 86) he fastidiously protected himself from the sun with sunscreen, clothing and reduced exposure. Went every three months to the dermatologist to have skin cancers removed - never having ANY of them test positive for melanoma. It got him anyway.
I'm sharing my thoughts on this because we are faced right now, as a society, with determining what behavior will and will not be allowed going forward as a result of this virus. There are those who propose extended "lock down" for 18 months or more and there are those who want to get back to 'normal' life now. There are many with viewpoints somewhere between these two extremes and there will be a lot of vitriol thrown about as these issues are discussed. It remains to be seen how this plays out. Whether it rips us apart as a society or whether it unites us as one.
In my little corner of Florida most people seem to be getting along with each other pretty well. But others are like tightly wound springs. Some of them are hunkered down at home foaming at the mouth with indignation at anyone who is out and about. Others are locked and loaded and getting more impatient by the hour to return to their routines. There's a tension there that will require Wisdom and the Hand of God to successfully navigate. Let's hope He hasn't written us off and that our local, state and federal officials work together to reduce this tension and return some sense of normalcy to our nation and the world.
Well put.
We cannot destroy the country for a few. We've lost many more to the yearly flu. I am fortunate that I am immune to this. It was a concern considering I had open heart just over a year ago. I don't have heart disease or blocked arteries. I had a hole in the atrium that started causing issues. So I was concerned about being at risk. The talking asshole leftists are more concerned with bashing the President who did act quickly while being called every foul name in the book for stopping travel. You people can thank many of the aircrews who were flying the Chinese routes for reporting this directly as to the scope and refusing to continue to fly the routes in January. We know from recovery rates in France that the therapy the President and many other well-known doctors are using does work in 97% of cases based on the studies. Most of us who served in the military have carried the anti-malaria drug or used it know it's as safe as an Asprin.
We also know there are several vaccines in the clinical trials that also look very promising.
Now that we have testing kits that are accurate and give results in minutes, not the few the WHO had didn't work and were inaccurate. I had my wings clipped with just a few hours of flight a month now until we start to see some normality. It will likely be August before perhaps life will start to look more like it did.
For now I am doing what I can by volunteering locally and giving plasma.
We can't destroy this nation for a few. It won't work and the end game is more than letting this run it's course. No surprise where the hot spots are, but just like global warming the models are all theory. They were wrong again and it's not taking the toll that was claimed by the experts.
I think everyone is going to end up with this. It will have little to no effect for the vast majority of us.
We didn't close the nation for the Spanish Flu, Polio outbreaks.
We need to become what we were: Americans.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 01:07:49 AM
We cannot destroy the country for a few. We've lost many more to the yearly flu.
CDC reports 34,157 deaths in the US related to the 2018-2019 flu season. Covid19 deaths in the US reported to date are 26,334 and rising. Your "opinion" is as good as mine where it will finish.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 01:07:49 AM
The talking asshole leftists are more concerned with bashing the President who did act quickly while being called every foul name in the book for stopping travel.
There is not enough room on the forum to link to all the press briefing video of "Mr T" down playing the severity of Covid19 or ignoring expert medical opinions. It's true red and blue like to take shots at each other, that doesn't mean the facts they use are not true.
People are not openly discussing anything they are just defending their point of view and in defending point of view they are defending their egos which means they are expressing the ideas that they think others people want to hear.
You can present the facts to people but the facts won't penetrate because it's not about facts its about opinions that they have to hold on to in order to feel OK about themselves.
JMHO ;D
Those figures are skewed. Death is often caused by secondary elements, not Covid 19 directly. I read multiple reports. So it's not MY opinion, but that or many who are accurately reporting information and are the EXPERTS on the subject, not the fear mongers. The CDC shows 62,000 deaths Between 01 Oct 19 - 04 Apr 20 from the common flu. They also are not telling you about over 250,000 recoveries Many test positive with little more than cold symptoms. It never develops. I am not against using precautions. However, accurate testing really wasn't available until recently. The new testing is Godsend. It allows testing in minutes. Every hotspot is where mass public transportation is used. Los Angeles NY, Chicago, San Francisco.... They will always be the hub of communicable diseases and they always have been historically speaking.
Covid 19 isn't new. It's likely many have been exposed and were months ago. At least unlike the H1N1, there was action taken almost immediately.
I'm glad to see we're not dumping another trillion U.S. dollars into the WHO. Keep it here, develop the cure like we usually do and make it cost-effective to the world. The UN is impotent and protected the Chinese Government. Again, not my opinion but proven fact.
+1 agreed
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Those figures are skewed. Death is often caused by secondary elements, not Covid 19 directly. I read multiple reports. So it's not MY opinion, but that or many who are accurately reporting information and are the EXPERTS on the subject, not the fear mongers. The CDC shows 62,000 deaths Between 01 Oct 19 - 04 Apr 20 from the common flu. They also are telling you about over 250,000 recoveries Many test positive with little more than cold symptoms. It never develops. I am not against using precautions. However, accurate testing really wasn't available until recently. The new testing is Godsend. It allows testing in minutes. Every hotspot is where mass public transportation is used. Los Angeles NY, Chicago, San Francisco.... They will always be the hub of communicable diseases and they always have been historically speaking.
Covid 19 isn't new. It's likely many have been exposed and were months ago. At least unlike the H1N1, there was action taken almost immediately.
I'm glad to see we're not dumping another trillion U.S. dollars into the WHO. Keep it here, develop the cure like we usually do and make it cost-effective to the world. The UN is impotent and protected the Chinese Government. Again, not my opinion but proven fact.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Those figures are skewed. Death is often caused by secondary elements, not Covid 19 directly. I read multiple reports. So it's not MY opinion, but that or many who are accurately reporting information and are the EXPERTS on the subject, not the fear mongers. The CDC shows 62,000 deaths Between 01 Oct 19 - 04 Apr 20 from the common flu. They also are not telling you about over 250,000 recoveries Many test positive with little more than cold symptoms. It never develops. I am not against using precautions. However, accurate testing really wasn't available until recently. The new testing is Godsend. It allows testing in minutes. Every hotspot is where mass public transportation is used. Los Angeles NY, Chicago, San Francisco.... They will always be the hub of communicable diseases and they always have been historically speaking.
Covid 19 isn't new. It's likely many have been exposed and were months ago. At least unlike the H1N1, there was action taken almost immediately.
I'm glad to see we're not dumping another trillion U.S. dollars into the WHO. Keep it here, develop the cure like we usually do and make it cost-effective to the world. The UN is impotent and protected the Chinese Government. Again, not my opinion but proven fact.
So are we just interested in the numbers then? 62,000 deaths BUT 250,000 recoveries so nothing to worry about? Why Covid19, why not gun related deaths? (never mind I know why)
How about this, about 128,000 people in the USA die from drugs prescribed to them. This makes prescription drugs a major health risk, ranking 4th with stroke as a leading cause of death.
Chris, or the number of patients killed by doctors by surgical errors? 300-400,000 a year. The third-largest killer in the United States. The numbers are staggering. Gun deaths aren't even on the table. Suiciders are going to use whatever tool is available to them. Gun violence again is always in the same places by the same groups of people. It's not 99.9% like me who have owned and handled firearms since they were 8 years old not to mention over eight years of military service in combat arms. I am also federally licensed and carry on aircraft as well.
My personal opinion is that it is way too early to attempt to normalize this.
It isn't that simple. It's complicated.
What is not normal is the stacking of caskets waiting to bury them in a mass grave on an island in the Bronx. There is a backlog.
Personally if everyone can be immunized and safe not to infect or reinfect even themselves, the sooner the better, but what I want is not what the reality is.
Answer this. Are you comfortable right now in going to a MLB , NBA, or NHL game? I am not.
I hope and pray no one else gets sick. I don't care how much I dislike them?
I'm remembering a quote from "On the Beach".
"The last one to go might be a Great White circumventing the Earth and under the polar ice cap at the North Pole, but it's going to kill him too".
Hopefully we never come to this or "crazy Reese stating,"we were this close to going out... forever"?
You can't minimalize this. You can't normalize this and there will be plenty of time to assess responsibility. That is all premature now.
WE for sure don't need to turn on each other or preach at each other. The data will be very clear.
I realize we're not going back to "normal" for a few months. No one is stacking caskets. Even NYC's numbers are inflated. over 4000 deaths that were attributed to Covid19 in NYC were never tested for Covid. It's about federal allocations. I am not minimizing it. However, again the new test developed actually work and in minutes. Test EVERYONE. Isolate the carriers. Use what has proven to work, despite the usual spewing nitwits who simply want to politicize this.
Wars could easily start with a financial crash of magnitude. I don't think many even thought about the implications here.
This is scary even in the geopolitical realm.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
I realize we're not going back to "normal" for a few months. No one is stacking caskets. Even NYC's numbers are inflated. over 4000 deaths that were attributed to Covid19 in NYC were never tested for Covid. It's about federal allocations. I am not minimizing it. However, again the new test developed actually work and in minutes. Test EVERYONE. Isolate the carriers. Use what has proven to work, despite the usual spewing nitwits who simply want to politicize this.
Wars could easily start with a financial crash of magnitude. I don't think many even thought about the implications here.
This is scary even in the geopolitical realm.
Yea, we are stacking them here. I thought of posting a picture but it's really in bad taste.
We're taking over 700 a day. At some point I get it, you just shrug it off and it in effect becomes normalized but it isn't normal.
Tests are available here but the "machines" are only at 20% capacity. Still takes 5 days to get results and you need a prescription for one. That still all needs explanation.
My daughter was supposed to go back to work at Trader Joes today and didn't. Last minute snafu on their end. She will be the first return to normality if there is such a thing?
It would be great if everyone was immune or vacinated. They are looking at anti-bodies right now as proof of immunity but it's a more complicated test since indiviuals vary on anti-body production.
Even the motorcycles are quite now. It's kind of spooky quite.