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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 07:10:16 PM

Title: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Greetings,

I am trying to learn how best to value a car we'd like to sell. It's a 1969 Shelby GT-500, one-owner, all-original, excellent (or good) condition. I understand an inspection/appraisal would be needed, just wondering where to begin. Hagarty's numbers are between ~ $98k and $116k. Plus 10% for the factory a/c, minus 20% for being an automatic. My main question is what impact does the one-owner have on value, and same question for the all-original / survivor status. Any advice you folks can provide will be greatly appricated!

Mike
Phoenix, AZ
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: Bill on May 07, 2020, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Greetings,

I am trying to learn how best to value a car we'd like to sell. It's a 1969 Shelby GT-500, one-owner, all-original, excellent (or good) condition. I understand an inspection/appraisal would be needed, just wondering where to begin. Hagarty's numbers are between ~ $98k and $116k. Plus 10% for the factory a/c, minus 20% for being an automatic. My main question is what impact does the one-owner have on value, and same question for the all-original / survivor status. Any advice you folks can provide will be greatly appricated!

Mike
Phoenix, AZ

Originality will play a key roll
Quality and condition of the car, interior, exterior, undercarriage, mechanicals, etc
Mileage (documented?)
Original documentation

Just to name the basics. Forget about what you read on Hagerty's as they are not 100% accurate.

Also, watch out for the vultures, those that will contact you in public or private, offering to either help you sell, or offer you a lowball figure for "a quick cash sale". Take your time, investigate your options, and most of all, ask questions here as you have above.

Wish you the best of luck, when you are ready to sell, please be sure to read the rules of the classifieds here.

Bill
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: Rickmustang on May 07, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
Gulfstream aqua and white interior. The best color combination, IMHO. Good luck with sale. Think about BAT. Seems like a good venue to sell.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: Bigfoot on May 07, 2020, 07:55:01 PM
If the paint is original then you really have something there.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: Greg on May 07, 2020, 08:16:50 PM
Beautiful car, I'm guessing monetary gain isn't the most important thing as the car has been a one owner, cared for and loved car its entire life.  You should pick the next caretaker and be mindful of the vultures as Bill indicated.  There are people in the club that are very reputable and can help you value and sale the car but their services won't be for free and nor should they expected to be.  Stephen Becker, Vern Estes, Bill Collins and Bret Matteson come to my mind.  Take your time, don't take the negative things about the car personal and enjoy the process.   
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on May 07, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Greetings,

I am trying to learn how best to value a car we'd like to sell. It's a 1969 Shelby GT-500, one-owner, all-original, excellent (or good) condition. I understand an inspection/appraisal would be needed, just wondering where to begin. Hagarty's numbers are between ~ $98k and $116k. Plus 10% for the factory a/c, minus 20% for being an automatic. My main question is what impact does the one-owner have on value, and same question for the all-original / survivor status. Any advice you folks can provide will be greatly appricated!

Mike
Phoenix, AZ
So my question to make it clear is that you are the original owner, right? If indeed being the original owner and an original paint car add a lot to the right buyer. Back in mid 2000s on my friend's 2 owner 71 HEMI Challenger Being an original paint car added 45K to a 150K price when he sold it to a guy in Mn and it turned out the buyer flipped it right back to the Detroit area. Cool car you have there. Gary
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 10:18:07 PM
Thank you all for the great advice and information!  This car has about 45k original miles. Paint is original, interior, everything is original except for routing maintenance stuff (i.e. battery, brakes, etc.).  Garage kept since new, with exception of 1 year in the 80's.  It's been in the same family since bought new in Arizona in November of 1969. I was told that same immediate family equates still to "one-owner". Is that correct? We have allot of the original documents as well. 

Thank you again for your input. We will continue researching. 

Mike
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: Rickmustang on May 07, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
Gulfstream aqua and white interior. The best color combination, IMHO. Good luck with sale. Think about BAT. Seems like a good venue to sell.

Rick, what is BAT?
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 10:21:44 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on May 07, 2020, 07:55:01 PM
If the paint is original then you really have something there.

Yes, paint is all original.  Interior, too.  Looks like new still!
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 10:23:44 PM
Quote from: Greg on May 07, 2020, 08:16:50 PM
Beautiful car, I'm guessing monetary gain isn't the most important thing as the car has been a one owner, cared for and loved car its entire life.  You should pick the next caretaker and be mindful of the vultures as Bill indicated.  There are people in the club that are very reputable and can help you value and sale the car but their services won't be for free and nor should they expected to be.  Stephen Becker, Vern Estes, Bill Collins and Bret Matteson come to my mind.  Take your time, don't take the negative things about the car personal and enjoy the process.

Greg thanks so much for your comments.  I totally agree and would neither ask for or expect anyone to provide free appraisal services.  My wife did have it appraised in 2015, but we want to have it done again most likely.  I will look up those names you provided. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mark p on May 07, 2020, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 10:20:55 PM
Rick, what is BAT?

"Bring a Trailer" on-line auction place.
good luck, sounds like a great car  8)
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: Special Ed on May 07, 2020, 10:43:06 PM
automatic or 4 speed and options all make a difference on value and is car in registry?
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: 2112 on May 07, 2020, 10:44:26 PM
https://bringatrailer.com/shelby/mustanggt350gt500/
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on May 07, 2020, 10:43:06 PM
automatic or 4 speed and options all make a difference on value and is car in registry?

Special Ed - no, the car isn't in the registry as far as I know.  It's an automatic. Factory a/c.  I've ordered an Elite Marti Report and waiting for that to arrive before I start to market the car.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: 69mach351w on May 08, 2020, 07:04:05 AM
Original paint, original owner. Perfect combination.

My wife's 69 Mach 1 has been in her Family since 1970. Her Dad Handed it down to her in 1980 in high school. At the 50th Mustang Celebration, they listed her as a 'Legacy' owner.

I'm almost certain that your Shelby still being in the Family is still considered Original Owner car.

I'm sure a potential buyer will see it that way.

Beautiful color combo and Welcome and Good Luck.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: mikeh on May 08, 2020, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: Rickmustang on May 07, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
Gulfstream aqua and white interior. The best color combination, IMHO.

+1!!!
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: roddster on May 08, 2020, 10:18:30 AM
 As always, let the SAAC registrar know who you sold it to.
Title: Re: Determining Value?
Post by: FL SAAC on May 08, 2020, 12:27:01 PM
What Bill said + 1

Quote from: Bill on May 07, 2020, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: mbitton on May 07, 2020, 07:10:16 PM

Originality will play a key roll
Quality and condition of the car, interior, exterior, undercarriage, mechanicals, etc
Mileage (documented?)
Original documentation

Just to name the basics. Forget about what you read on Hagerty's as they are not 100% accurate.

Also, watch out for the vultures, those that will contact you in public or private, offering to either help you sell, or offer you a lowball figure for "a quick cash sale". Take your time, investigate your options, and most of all, ask questions here as you have above.

Wish you the best of luck, when you are ready to sell, please be sure to read the rules of the classifieds here.

Bill