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Title: Message from computerworks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:43:39 PM
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1. Do you want me to start censoring what people say in the Lounge?

2. Do you want me to abolish the Lounge and make the Forum purely clinical




...or if some Lounge posts offend you... why are you looking in the Lounge at all?




Seriously.....


I am only asking for moderate moderation of stupidity. I don't think it's asking too much for moderation and to keep the forum on course.

General disclaimer: First let me say I do not like what I am doing.  I have tried the "quiet way". I have tried rallying the troops. I have tried a strike. For this, I have been threatened and called various names which I shall not repeat. The forum moderator's hands-off policy towards keeping the forum on track and topic has left me with one choice. I have a lot of free time on my hands and will continue this until further notice. If you don't like the off-topic garbage that is being posted, please contact "computerworks" and tell him you came to read about vintage Shelbys and it's time for some moderation. 
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:47:09 PM
There is nothing personal. Its time to tell the clowns, the circus is over....and send them packing
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: computerworks on June 01, 2020, 03:05:29 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?

As long as the talk in the Lounge is not political, hateful, overtly sexual or threatening harm/ad hominum attacks... it is just fine...
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Greg on June 01, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?

So let me get this straight, you hate "the clowns" as you put it but now you have become one of them.  Humm, you better ask yourself some serious questions. 

Why don't you do what 95% of rest of us do, ignore them and move on.  If you don't feed them they won't survive, but no, your answer is because YOU aren't happy, you will flood the site with trash and shut down the site for everyone else?  Man that is the definition of selfishness. 
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
Call it selfish Greg! It is condoned by the moderator so enjoy the show!

Thanks for your opinion, may I suggest "fighting negativity 2020"
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: 557 on June 01, 2020, 03:57:23 PM
Positive vibration....
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: shelbydoug on June 01, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 01, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?

So let me get this straight, you hate "the clowns" as you put it but now you have become one of them.  Humm, you better ask yourself some serious questions. 

Why don't you do what 95% of rest of us do, ignore them and move on.  If you don't feed them they won't survive, but no, your answer is because YOU aren't happy, you will flood the site with trash and shut down the site for everyone else?  Man that is the definition of selfishness.

Ah, someone else noticed this as well?
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Bill on June 01, 2020, 06:14:38 PM
A moderator, by design, must stay neutral at all times, agree with this or not, the bottom line to any moderator and his/her duties, on any forum boils down to the following:

Until someone breaks the rules and/or regulations, there is nothing to moderate.



Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: FL SAAC on June 01, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
This deserves a plus one. Move along now...nothing to see here...

Thank you Mr Bill

Quote from: Bill on June 01, 2020, 06:14:38 PM
A moderator, by design, must stay neutral at all times, agree with this or not, the bottom line to any moderator and his/her duties, on any forum boils down to the following:

Until someone breaks the rules and/or regulations, there is nothing to moderate.
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Chris Thauberger on June 01, 2020, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 01, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?

So let me get this straight, you hate "the clowns" as you put it but now you have become one of them.  Humm, you better ask yourself some serious questions. 

Why don't you do what 95% of rest of us do, ignore them and move on.  If you don't feed them they won't survive, but no, your answer is because YOU aren't happy, you will flood the site with trash and shut down the site for everyone else?  Man that is the definition of selfishness.

Greg if you don't like it don't read it...move along

::)
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Greg on June 01, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on June 01, 2020, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 01, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 01, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Well, we have established you can moderate if you want to. Now the question will become when is too much off topic appropriate?

So let me get this straight, you hate "the clowns" as you put it but now you have become one of them.  Humm, you better ask yourself some serious questions. 

Why don't you do what 95% of rest of us do, ignore them and move on.  If you don't feed them they won't survive, but no, your answer is because YOU aren't happy, you will flood the site with trash and shut down the site for everyone else?  Man that is the definition of selfishness.

Greg if you don't like it don't read it...move along

::)

Absolutely, as my respect for the persons is lost.
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Bill on June 01, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on June 01, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
Move along now...nothing to see here...



   Instead of being the problem, why not  become part of a successful solution.

Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Chris Thauberger on June 01, 2020, 08:05:24 PM
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Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: FL SAAC on June 01, 2020, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Bill on June 01, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on June 01, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
Move along now...nothing to see here...

Done, Bill


   Instead of being the problem, why not  become part of a successful solution.
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: 427heaven on June 01, 2020, 08:27:53 PM
When one is a clown, or clowns around by definition... People laugh at the clown, not with the clown. By drawing negative attention to himself because he does not like what is being said is infantile by design. When people are part of a committee, group, or club it is all about what is in the best interest of the  groups thoughts, not the individuals thoughts. Viruses suck as well as our cities burning down, there are more important things to think about these days then worrying about someone posting positive thoughts, and pictures that you don't like. Back to real cars, fake cars, or any cars that pertain to old, fast, beautiful, and hopefully ford made and powered by!
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: TA Coupe on June 02, 2020, 03:06:14 PM
Right on. Pretty much the same thing I was thinking.

   Roy
Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: The Going Thing on June 03, 2020, 06:45:37 AM
I will keep this short and sweet. Napoleon Jr. and a couple other cronies trying to strong arm and demean others does more damage than it ever helps. If their responses and commentary here in my absence don't make that clear, nothing will.
They hide under multiple screen names, send hostile PMs, and at some point start acting out like a child to garner attention. They violate the the rules they want enforced and the simple rules of conduct here. I didn't bother posting PMs sent. It's counterproductive and drama that isn't necessary.
I don't have to go look in my wife's purse for my testes, nor do I get butt-hurt easily like some.

I have tried to stay more on topic, even though some of the political discussions that arise are warranted and have to do with our ownership and use of the cars the forum caters to. The liberal sheep deem as damaging to the environment or offensive and would rather they become refrigerators or washers and dryers.
I have tried to be polite many times but I can always tell the weak men who are usually hen-pecked at home or abusive. It shows in their demeanor.

Those that claim to be authorities here often have the tongue of a viper instead of being polite and informative they would rather tear down individuals who seek information instead of politely sharing information, or correcting misinformation they go on the attack.
I am well-read and educated. However, there are no shortages of books written by so-called Shelby authorities that contain more rumors and hearsay than they do historically factual information.
Those here who are studies of the cars also don't share information because they are sweet lovable kind individuals. They do it because it is a plug for what they do. Sell parts, cars, etc. It's for gain and profitable. I don't have an issue with that as long as we're honest about it.

The more recent scolding those who are PAYING members because they are building, own a clone, or make changes to real cars is appaling.
 

This forum should not be ran as an autopsy room. Yes, we often dissect the vehicles. Trying to find answers to the hows and whys of manufacturing processes, parts procurement, running changes, and assembly technique that varies vehicle to vehicle. Especially the 65-67 cars which often little is founded in concrete but logical deduction.

There is no need for something akin to Sterile Cockpit Rule where only allowing activities required for the safe discussion of Shelby Vehicles may be carried out, and all non-essential activities and subjects are forbidden.

Be careful what you wish for and choose your words wisely. As for the OP: I think we'll change his name to Walter.  Jeff Dunham has is disposition down well.

Now on to something constructive: Completing the restoration of my air conditioner components so I can get them installed.

Good day, Gentlemen.


Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 03, 2020, 07:43:06 AM
I will give you this gift. I only hope when you need help in the future that one of our great contributors that is more interested in talking about fishing, the weather, medical issues, politics, ex wives, their former or current employers, their past military exploits, Corvettes, their disdain for others that are different, or local car shows are able to help you, because these are the posts this forum doesnt need.

If the moderator wants the hide in the Lounge and read them that is his perogative. He can explain it to the membership director.

Thank you to everyone that has sent messages of encouragement.

If you are waiting for SAAC 2.0 to be like 1.0, here is my suggestion, dont hold your breath.

If you are one of those people that thinks ignoring those that are causing the issues or looking the other way is the answer, I respectfully disagree.


Title: Re: Message from computerworks
Post by: computerworks on June 03, 2020, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 03, 2020, 07:43:06 AM
If the moderator wants the hide in the Lounge and read them that is his perogative. He can explain it to the membership director.


No one here hides anywhere.. we are always accessible and try to be non-intrusive, as much as possible.

Glad to see this episode has run its course.... and happy to see people getting back to posting what they like to talk about.

Carry on.