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Title: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: The Going Thing on June 09, 2020, 01:43:47 PM
I was looking at the listings once again. The stars you see on the visor decals are as the reproductions are supplied by NPD. When I bought another set after they peeled from the visor I noted the inked star stamp. Fraudster. More penned in part numbers on packing and as usual, they are included.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-shelby-gt350-mustang-door-sill-inserts-Y-belt-visor-emblems-Dome-insert/333594663051?hash=item4dabca988b:g:wvgAAOSw4B9etrtm

Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 09, 2020, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: The Going Thing on June 09, 2020, 01:43:47 PM
I was looking at the listings once again. The stars you see on the visor decals are as the reproductions are supplied by NPD. When I bought another set after they peeled from the visor I noted the inked star stamp. Fraudster. More penned in part numbers on packing and as usual, they are included.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-shelby-gt350-mustang-door-sill-inserts-Y-belt-visor-emblems-Dome-insert/333594663051?hash=item4dabca988b:g:wvgAAOSw4B9etrtm
Yes, some of the repros have gotton good and I agree those are examples. FYI for those reading whenever applying the stickers to the viser you need to add contact cement to the back side so as to supplyment the adhisive which is typically inadiquete. If no extra help with adhisive is given then finding a curled up sticker on your seat should not be unexpected.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: deathsled on June 09, 2020, 02:50:36 PM
How did he get the name "pookie" anyway? It is the most ridiculous name I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Side-Oilers on June 09, 2020, 02:53:58 PM
I'm guessing it's his cosplay name when he dresses up as a TeleTubbie.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 09, 2020, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: deathsled on June 09, 2020, 02:50:36 PM
How did he get the name "pookie" anyway? It is the most ridiculous name I've heard in a long time.
Of all of the many Ebay names he has used on his many scamy auctions over the years "pookie" is the one most rediculously rememberable.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: deathsled on June 09, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
Thanks for the clarification. To me it is a non word. Just looked it up. Pookie is defined as:  "Pookie is a common euphemism to describe something cute. It is also often used as a pet name or as a term of endearment for one's significant other."
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: 69mach351w on June 09, 2020, 03:31:01 PM
The Thread name is "Pookie is at it again"??

Hell, he's always at it!!
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: GT350Lad on June 09, 2020, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on June 09, 2020, 02:53:58 PM
I'm guessing it's his cosplay name when he dresses up as a TeleTubbie.

Gold, absolute gold  ;D
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: The Going Thing on June 09, 2020, 05:27:17 PM
Well, Bob and I certainly remember POOKIE as his handle on Evilbay. I think the name probably came from one of the Porky's movies. He becomes more daring and blatant all the time.  I am never surprised about anything with him except that his fraud hasn't caught up with him.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: 427heaven on June 09, 2020, 06:26:24 PM
He is known in our circles as the PUKESTER... A cute name for your dog when it has a little problem, something similar Im sure. >:(
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Kent on June 10, 2020, 04:02:01 AM
I thought we want to make a list with ebay names where we know that they sell fake stuff? Maybe start now? Should be a extra thread I think or?
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: deathsled on June 10, 2020, 07:06:24 AM
Quote from: Kent on June 10, 2020, 04:02:01 AM
I thought we want to make a list with ebay names where we know that they sell fake stuff? Maybe start now? Should be a extra thread I think or?
In my opinion, creating such a list opens the club up to liability through a slander/libel suit by any one of them. These people are unscrupulous and yes, truth is a legal defense to libel and/or slander. But do you want to have to defend a lawsuit in court even though it's frivolous? Just sayin'
As an addendum it would be easier to attack them in threads on an item by item or case by case basis. Putting them on a broad and sweeping list makes the club more vulnerable to a legal attack otherwise. That's it. Govern yourselves accordingly.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: 2112 on June 10, 2020, 10:09:21 AM
Good advice.

You don't have to be wrong to be sued and it costs a lot either way.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Kent on June 11, 2020, 04:38:16 AM
Then there is the question because I sit in germany and write from here, which law counts german/european or US Law  ;D its always the same if you can proove what you say about their fake parts etc. its definetly not a problem. I really have a problem with people selling fake parts to people which dont know better.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: Special Ed on June 11, 2020, 06:33:53 AM
Years ago I loaned ECS one of my original Shelby sunvisor decals to have made and they are the best. I recently visited ECS shop in st. louis to help them out in printing a new updated corrected catalog and talked them into seting up at ford Carlisle next swap meet since the family wants to improve and keep the business going since Dave Walden (the owner) passed away last july. His wife Cindy is taking over the business and family and old staff are asking for any help to improve the ECS products so call them if u have any ideas to help them or make new decals or make new products since they make more than concours decals  mopar exhaust ford glass etc.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: deathsled on June 11, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Quote from: Kent on June 11, 2020, 04:38:16 AM
Then there is the question because I sit in germany and write from here, which law counts german/european or US Law  ;D its always the same if you can proove what you say about their fake parts etc. its definetly not a problem. I really have a problem with people selling fake parts to people which dont know better.
Suit would likely be filed here in the US and US law would apply since the club is headquartered here in the US.  The club would be sued as a publisher of the alleged slander/ libel. State law would govern likely where the club has its main office and choice of law rules would apply depending on where the lawsuit is filed. It would get very expensive to defend because any defense lawyer that would take on the case would take it on an hourly basis. Unless the club has a CGL policy that would hire a lawyer through insurance to provide a defense. Even so, intentional acts are not covered under insurance so any award or judgment against the Club might not be covered by insurance. The insurer would hire a lawyer to defend but the general rule is that the duty to defend is greater than the duty to indemnify. Why get involved with any of this becomes my question.
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: 557 on June 11, 2020, 07:12:28 PM
Pookie was the name of Chris Rocks character in New Jack City.He smoked a boatload o crack..
..Apparently so does "the pookster"given the way he behaves.....He needs to get off the "wack sack"(to paraphrase Flavor Flav) 8)
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: corbins on June 11, 2020, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: deathsled on June 11, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Quote from: Kent on June 11, 2020, 04:38:16 AM
Then there is the question because I sit in germany and write from here, which law counts german/european or US Law  ;D its always the same if you can proove what you say about their fake parts etc. its definetly not a problem. I really have a problem with people selling fake parts to people which dont know better.
Suit would likely be filed here in the US and US law would apply since the club is headquartered here in the US.  The club would be sued as a publisher of the alleged slander/ libel. State law would govern likely where the club has its main office and choice of law rules would apply depending on where the lawsuit is filed. It would get very expensive to defend because any defense lawyer that would take on the case would take it on an hourly basis. Unless the club has a CGL policy that would hire a lawyer through insurance to provide a defense. Even so, intentional acts are not covered under insurance so any award or judgment against the Club might not be covered by insurance. The insurer would hire a lawyer to defend but the general rule is that the duty to defend is greater than the duty to indemnify. Why get involved with any of this becomes my question.
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All true... however , people are entitled to they're personal opinions and the freedom to express them , no ?
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: deathsled on June 11, 2020, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: corbins on June 11, 2020, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: deathsled on June 11, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Quote from: Kent on June 11, 2020, 04:38:16 AM
Then there is the question because I sit in germany and write from here, which law counts german/european or US Law  ;D its always the same if you can proove what you say about their fake parts etc. its definetly not a problem. I really have a problem with people selling fake parts to people which dont know better.
Suit would likely be filed here in the US and US law would apply since the club is headquartered here in the US.  The club would be sued as a publisher of the alleged slander/ libel. State law would govern likely where the club has its main office and choice of law rules would apply depending on where the lawsuit is filed. It would get very expensive to defend because any defense lawyer that would take on the case would take it on an hourly basis. Unless the club has a CGL policy that would hire a lawyer through insurance to provide a defense. Even so, intentional acts are not covered under insurance so any award or judgment against the Club might not be covered by insurance. The insurer would hire a lawyer to defend but the general rule is that the duty to defend is greater than the duty to indemnify. Why get involved with any of this becomes my question.
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All true... however , people are entitled to they're personal opinions and the freedom to express them , no ?
I agree with you.  And people have the freedom to sue you for those opinions if said people perceive that the opinions you express are untrue and are published to a third party therefore giving rise to a cause of action in libel and/or slander.  Doesn't mean the cause of action has merit.  The standard would be that the alleged libel/slander has to be of a nature that a reasonable person would believe the false statements to be true.  If you said that someone's parents were actual monkeys, though untrue, no reasonable person would believe such a statement to actually be true.  If you're stuck defending a libel/slander case the meter starts running.  And it can get expensive.  Granted they are difficult cases to win. I handled one as a plaintiff case and got a small result for the client.  It was very expensive for all concerned.   
As an addendum, I'm not standing in anyone's way to make a list.  Just sayin' one possible and unpleasant outcome. 
Title: Re: Pookie is at it again.
Post by: pmustang on June 15, 2020, 05:00:43 PM
All I know is I used a lawyer to try and recoup $45k from a guy in Florida. The lawyer explained I had a pretty open and shut case....at $175 and hour. Tried to get him to sign a payment agreement stating exactly what he promised to do....at $175 an hour. Then he wouldn't sign it. So the lawyer said I could probably get a judgement for the money costing circa $20k and then said at the point where I win I then had to collect....and he probably would never pay.