Moving to stand alone thread.
Pictures attached of the owners manual that was with my car. Handwritten VIN# at bottom left and name on bottom right.
Has this manual faded? Was it originally in color like the reproductions?
Inside, an owner has made a couple of corrections on rear gear ratio for the GT350. Manual was printed with 2.89:1 and has been corrected to 3.89:1.
Interesting part for me is the weight comparison between the GT350 and GT500. Hard to believe the over 500 lbs difference.
There are least four different variations of original owners manuals for 67 that I have identified. Arranged in first usage to last the first one in color was the typical one but other variations were printed to replace ones forgotten to be put in cars or lost. They are different in size ,color and content. In some case the work was primitive in others the content was condensed. The first three had the LA address and the last had the Michigan address the first three were a combined 67 Mustang manual plus the Shelby information. The last only had the Shelby specific information and was meant to be used with a regular 67 Mustang owners manual. There are examples of these variation owners manuals for 66,67,68,69 and 70. There are others that I have not yet added in the multi year picture so that picture reflects at least that many variations.
I have the more colorized version to the left of Bob's post. It looks as if there wasn't much thought as to what to add. The shoulder harness information listed is the standard mustang option, not the roll bar mounted harness. A few quirky things in it.
I appreciate the postings.
Thanks for all that Bob. Always good to verify what I have.
You would have thought that by the 4th iteration that they would have at least correct the part and put GT350 / GT500 on the cover instead of the /500.
Quote from: rmarble57 on July 07, 2020, 06:55:27 PM
Thanks for all that Bob. Always good to verify what I have.
You would have thought that by the 4th iteration that they would have at least correct the part and put GT350 / GT500 on the cover instead of the /500.
My thoughts are that they were taking short cuts which is obvious with the quality compared to the first version . Proof reading by a competent person was obviously not a priority. Most likely a saving money issue IMO ::)
I have one of the '67 yellow manuals like Bob has pictured above. The print quality is horrendous! The first 10 pages are Shelby specific while the rest of the manual is Mustang. I believe it's a tad over 60 pages total (64 maybe).
Craig R.
This is great. Thanks, Bob!
Quote from: SHELB66 on July 07, 2020, 10:49:45 PM
I have one of the '67 yellow manuals like Bob has pictured above. The print quality is horrendous! The first 10 pages are Shelby specific while the rest of the manual is Mustang. I believe it's a tad over 60 pages total (64 maybe).
Craig R.
I have one of the yellow manuals as well. For years I thought it was some early reproduction until several years ago Bob told me it was a replacement.
Greek
Obviously this thread is mostly centered around 67 manuals but since bob posted above about all the various years...i thought I would post up one more 66 version I have come across...bob has already seen it in person but wanted to share for the general forum.
Kind regards,
Vern
http://www.vernonestesclassics.com/memorabiliaandparts/fordperformancebook-9r796-3lab7-yar6d-8geeg-x78t3-4sr2l-6wjpz-et7ys-3b9k2-yabpp
Quote from: Vernon Estes on July 08, 2020, 04:41:52 PM
.............i thought I would post up one more 66 version I have come across...bob has already seen it in person but wanted to share for the general forum.
That's an odd one/ Can't say I recall ever seeing one like that before
Quote from: J_Speegle on July 08, 2020, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on July 08, 2020, 04:41:52 PM
.............i thought I would post up one more 66 version I have come across...bob has already seen it in person but wanted to share for the general forum.
That's an odd one/ Can't say I recall ever seeing one like that before
I hadn't seen one like that ether until Vern showed me it. It kind of makes sense if you put it in the context of the 67 B/W versions. I wasn't too surprised but just glad to get a chance to see it.
I had not seen that version either till this one came in. It came in a pile of around 200 pieces of some of the rarest original literature imaginable that a west coast collector had assembled. Every other piece in the pile is original and the manual is a "copy" of a second printing manual with the hole punches in the center page.
Pretty neat stuff.
As an aside to the conversation, I recently had a 66 GT350 (2218) in which had its complete original owners manual packet with it...with the light blue "construction paper" cover version of the manual as seen in bob's pictures above.
Further, I seem to have a knack for managing to own early 67s with "late" owners manuals as 23 had the black and white manual which is the subject of this thread and another early 67 "red light" i had still had its original black and white manual with it also. I forget what date 23 was sold but the other car wasnt sold till August of 68 so it having a "late" owners manual in it made perfect sense in my mind.
Kind regards,
Vern
Quote from: Vernon Estes on July 08, 2020, 04:41:52 PM
Obviously this thread is mostly centered around 67 manuals but since bob posted above about all the various years...i thought I would post up one more 66 version I have come across...bob has already seen it in person but wanted to share for the general forum.
Kind regards,
Vern
http://www.vernonestesclassics.com/memorabiliaandparts/fordperformancebook-9r796-3lab7-yar6d-8geeg-x78t3-4sr2l-6wjpz-et7ys-3b9k2-yabpp
Thanks Vern!
I have seen one, maybe two, like that over the years but always blew it off as someone's cheap copy attempt.
Thanks,
Dave
Vern,
Car #23 was built and released on 10/11/1966.
Randy
Thanks Vern for the reference. I had no idea!
Quote from: rmarble57 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:04 AM
Vern,
Car #23 was built and released on 10/11/1966.
Randy
For those who may not understand the difference between dates;,
10/11/1966 is the Ford San Jose build date and the release date,
11/4/1966 is when Shelby American completed #00023 as a Shelby, which while still very early, might need to be considered for some related aspects.
It was also shipped out of LAX on the same day as completed.
Quote from: Richstang on July 09, 2020, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: rmarble57 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:04 AM
Vern,
Car #23 was built and released on 10/11/1966.
Randy
For those who may not understand the difference between dates;,
10/11/1966 is the Ford San Jose build date and the release date,
11/4/1966 is when Shelby American completed #00023 as a Shelby, which while still very early, might need to be considered for some related aspects.
It was also shipped out of LAX on the same day as completed.
As it relates to Randy's car the BW version would not have been produced as a replacement manual until late 1967 at the earliest.
Based on the responses, one could surmize that a 2nd or so owner picked up the manual that was available at the time.
Question: Since the B&W version has the Dearborn MI address would it be safe to assume that they were printed after the decision was taken to start moving production to A.O. Smith for the 68 model year?
Quote from: rmarble57 on July 09, 2020, 01:57:36 PM
Based on the responses, one could surmize that a 2nd or so owner picked up the manual that was available at the time.
Question: Since the B&W version has the Dearborn MI address would it be safe to assume that they were printed after the decision was taken to start moving production to A.O. Smith for the 68 model year?
There are any number of scenarios that would include the dealer adding the manual . Another example is that the first owner bought the car and not until months later does he or she realize that there was no owners manual included. Going to the dealer or a Ford dealer to get a appropriate owners manual would be the most logical course of action. With that in mind anyone of the variations would be more correct and desirable then a repro including a concours venue. The one problem is that most Shelby enthusiasts do not know that variations exist. Fortunately a forum like this helps with getting the information out. The B/W supplement with the Michigan address strongly suggests that it was printed late enough near or after 67 production ceased that the new offices were finalized.
In regards to why the b/w manual is in an early car...frankly owners manual styles have more correlation (from what I have seen) to the original sell date at the dealership than they do to the serial number of the car. In general and early car would have likely been sold earlier than a late car...but it was not uncommon for any of these cars to be tough sells at the dealer level. For example, the early black car i had not selling from Tasca till August of 68. On the car, it would make perfect sense that Tasca might have already blown through their supply of "produduction" (ie "typical") original manuals and had ordered more for their remaining stock ...hence being sent black and white "service replacement" manuals. There is no sell date noted in the registry for #0023 so its entirely possible that the black and white manual came with the car the day it was sold from the dealer, if it took a while to retail.
In addition, its equally as likely that the first owner could have not gotten a manual or even lost his "production" manual early on and requested another be supplied. Its equally plausible that the replacement could have still been a "standard" manual or the black and white version we are discussing could have been given..just depends on what was available at the time.
Similarly, the only year i have never seen a "service replacement"/"oddball" manual associated with is 1965...but ive heard no shortage of stories from early owners who said they requested a replacement 65 manual because they didnt get one with the car...what showed up in the mail was simply a standard production type 1966 Shelby owners manual.
Anyway, just some possiblities.
Vern
Is this an original or repop? Owner claims 2nd Edition.
More pics...
Last.
Judging by the appearance of the cover I would have to say repop.
Craig R.
Quote from: SHELB66 on August 25, 2020, 01:33:25 PM
Judging by the appearance of the cover I would have to say repop.
Craig R.
Agreed...it appears to be a reproduction.
Thanks