Hello who knows which holley kit I need exactly to rebuild a set of BJ/BK
And also I need pictures of the original vs repro gauge pods or how I can identify them, the one in my shelby is original but I have another one here which looks pretty much the same with only some very small differences but I´m not sure if its a real one or repro.
The Holley Tric kit #37 119 works with either carb.
Yes thats what I heard but I read somewhere that there are some specific parts I need for a complete rebuild. Thank you
There are some specific parts that doesn't contain.
I honestly do not recall what as it has been years since I bought any sort of generic kit.
I have a company make me kits to my own specs for that reason.
Agree on kit 37-119, that is the kit(s) I used as well. I figured by the time i bought the bowl gaskets and metering gaskets, it was almost the same price to buy the entire kit if I recall correctly.
On the gauges, again going from memory, the reproduction gauges do not have a part # stenciled on the lower face of the gauge while the originals do have a part number. Hopefully someone will confirm I am giving you good information.
Kent, do you need both or one? I think I have a repro oil pressure gauge I bought years ago. I can look and see if it has part number information on it like the OE. Remember, green line gauges weren't Shelby specific.
Yes maybe there is a comparison thread for the gauge pod I have not found yet?
Quote from: JWH on July 10, 2020, 12:03:40 PM
On the gauges, again going from memory, the reproduction gauges do not have a part # stenciled on the lower face of the gauge while the originals do have a part number. Hopefully someone will confirm I am giving you good information.
Most later reissue gauges used in reproduction gauge pods had similar stenciled marking compared to original.
The QFT kit is a little nicer than the Holley Renu Kits. If the carb is really old you will also need to buy the secondary diaphragms which are not part of any kit.
Note that the Trick Kit doesn't have all the parts for a rebuild. It's a nice kit to have but the Holley Renu Kit is actually the rebuild kit.
The QFT company is owned by Holley too.
Kit: https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetor_components/rebuild_kits/renew_kit/parts/3-200QFT (https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetor_components/rebuild_kits/renew_kit/parts/3-200QFT)
Or: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quick-Fuel-3-200QFT-Holley-4160-Carb-Rebuild-Kit-390-600-750-850-CFM-Vacuum/192371165805?epid=1832975803&hash=item2cca370a6d:g:oaUAAOSwyi9aHtsF:sc:USPSPriority!74133!US!-1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quick-Fuel-3-200QFT-Holley-4160-Carb-Rebuild-Kit-390-600-750-850-CFM-Vacuum/192371165805?epid=1832975803&hash=item2cca370a6d:g:oaUAAOSwyi9aHtsF:sc:USPSPriority!74133!US!-1)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oaUAAOSwyi9aHtsF/s-l500.jpg)
Quote from: Kent on July 09, 2020, 11:04:25 AM
Hello who knows which holley kit I need exactly to rebuild a set of BJ/BK
And also I need pictures of the original vs repro gauge pods or how I can identify them, the one in my shelby is original but I have another one here which looks pretty much the same with only some very small differences but I´m not sure if its a real one or repro.
A note about the kit Royce linked.
You'll need to cut the fuel bowl gasket a tiny bit for the brass balance tube.
With some small scissors or razor blade it is not hard at all.
Good catch! I use a 3/16" gasket punch after marking the holes using the metering block. You can make such a punch from a small piece of 3/16" brass tubing that would work for a couple holes.
I've never seen the repro BJ / BK carbs do they have the balance tubes too?
Quote from: Drew Pojedinec on July 10, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
A note about the kit Royce linked.
You'll need to cut the fuel bowl gasket a tiny bit for the brass balance tube.
With some small scissors or razor blade it is not hard at all.
I have seen a few repro BJ/BK, no balance tube on those.
Tor
Yes, there are balance tubes on the reproductions.
I think on my repro carbs I have here there are no balance tubes like on the originals I have here. I can double check.
Somebody has pictures of the gauge pod differences? And Bob is right I also have seen repros with the numbers, thats why I´m confused with the gauge pod on my table vs the one in my GT500 they are slightly different but not to much. Seller said the one I bough is original and came from a 67 Shelby but I think compared to the original one in my GT500 there are some small differences. But the gauges look pretty similar only 2 small things I have seen that are different but thats more of aging in my opinion.
Quote from: The Going Thing on July 10, 2020, 11:23:22 PM
Yes, there are balance tubes on the reproductions.
Do not confuse transfer tube with balance tube on 4160's.
I seem to get more life, assembly and disassembly out of the blue, non-Holley bowl gaskets,
I like the teflon bowl screw gaskets much better then the Holly versions.
Of course if you need to be cosmetically looking correct you need to stick with the Holley kits.
Doug, I get nonstick black gaskets that are on the level with the blue ones.
Nylon bowl screws are cool.... sadly I would say with 1960's carbs I'd get maybe 1 out if every ten that would stay wet with the hard gaskets.
Carb gasket trick: Rub some Chapstik all over the paper type gaskets so they'll peel off next time.
Kent: Something else crossed my mine as well. The original gauges had inked date stamps and possibly part numbers on the back near the hole the lamp passed into. You might take a look if your unit is off the vehicle. I'm sorry I can't be of much more help.
Yes thats what I checked on the ones on my table but the stamps are not really visible, somebody know how to differ a repro and original gauge pod
Kent, here is a factory and a reproduction. Note the information on the top of the ammeter but not on the reproduction oil pressure guage.
Is it that easy? I heard that there also repros with this informations on the top. My gauges have them all, but as I said small differences are there in the look of the pod and gauges maybe some is due to aging etc.
I can't confirm this, but It wouldn't make sense that there were several manufacturers reproducing the gauges. Perhaps SW reissued them at some point?
I know the SW oil gauge is a reproduction I picked up long ago in my spares. The Ammeter is the one in my vehicle and an original to the vehicle.
SW reissued the gauges starting many decades ago.
Ok so I need to check more the gauge pod but as I said they look quite similar but I´m not 100% sure if the one on my table is original. I will do pics. The one in my car is 100% original but its hard to compare them when one is sitting in the car and the other one on the table.
Easy enough to check, Kent. Disconnect the battery. One nut on the back of the pod will allow you to pull the gauge out to get a look at the back.
Do you still need pictures of the gauge pod? I have mine out right now and can do a photoshoot! The model is leaving soon so don't procrastinate. 8)
Yes please do that, and yes I took out the ones on my table but as Isaid the stamping is very unclear.
What does it mean do you want to sell your GT350?
Does somebody know where I can order the correct bushings for the throttle blades? Is there anything else I need which is not in the trick kits?
I spent 30 seconds at https://google.com to find this answer:
https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/throttle-shaft-service-kits/carburetor-manufacturer/holley
Quote from: Kent on September 09, 2020, 08:29:08 AM
Does somebody know where I can order the correct bushings for the throttle blades? Is there anything else I need which is not in the trick kits?
Mr Royce,
You need the reverse piloted reamer as well for those.
They work well when needed.
Thanks I thought there was a more high quality kit, I cant remember where I have seen it it was a box with easily 50 bushings and 2 or 3 reamer. Thats the one I´m looking for.
somebody ever tried these?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Holley-QFT-AED-CCS-Nylon-Throttle-Shaft-Bushings-1013-490-015-Thick-Stock/170709015817?epid=1017835785&hash=item27bf0cdd09:g:F1AAAMXQTghRSTFk
Quote from: Kent on September 09, 2020, 03:25:53 PM
somebody ever tried these?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Holley-QFT-AED-CCS-Nylon-Throttle-Shaft-Bushings-1013-490-015-Thick-Stock/170709015817?epid=1017835785&hash=item27bf0cdd09:g:F1AAAMXQTghRSTFk
Mr Kent, those are just for the secondary throttle shafts.
There are teflon for the primary as well, but honestly, they make too much resistance with the thin gauge old Style return springs.
Having spent my working life doing aircraft sheet metal for 20 years I have a ton of experience using reamers and the reamers themselves. One needs to know how to properly ream a hole. Just owning a reamer won't help much.
Quote from: Drew Pojedinec on September 09, 2020, 02:53:01 PM
Mr Royce,
You need the reverse piloted reamer as well for those.
They work well when needed.