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The Cars => 1965 GT350/R-Model => Topic started by: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 10:45:43 AM

Title: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 10:45:43 AM
Anyone know when Ken Miles's R is going up on the block? I suspect this evening but it is a challenge on Mecum's site to find the day and approximate time. Plus I can no longer find the live link to video on their site. Hell, I should just drive down to Indianapolis now...
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: KerryBWhite on July 11, 2020, 10:55:07 AM
This may help
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-414695/1965-shelby-gt350r-prototype/
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 11:30:12 AM
Thank you. I saw that link before during my search but it doesn't list an approximate time. However, I did find the live auction on YouTube. So it's up to me to calculate when she rolls over the auction floor based on which listing number they are at. I am at the office at the moment but my mind is obviously elsewhere...and certainly not on my work. Better focus...
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: KerryBWhite on July 11, 2020, 11:53:34 AM
 
   LOT F140

   F- Friday July 17, 2020

   I would think sometime mid to late afternoon
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 01:49:47 PM
Okay thank you for finding that info. I'm only part time tech savvy.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 11, 2020, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 10:45:43 AM. Hell, I should just drive down to Indianapolis now...
Take your checkbook
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 12, 2020, 10:20:54 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 11, 2020, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: deathsled on July 11, 2020, 10:45:43 AM. Hell, I should just drive down to Indianapolis now...
Take your checkbook

You make me think about how much, say, the front gender is worth on the Flyer. It truly shows that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts applying Gestalt theory on 5R002.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: jerry merrill on July 19, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
Does anyone know what the second white toggle switch on the dash is for?
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: Shelby_r_b on July 19, 2020, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: jerry merrill on July 19, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
Does anyone know what the second white toggle switch on the dash is for?

I believe it's for the fuel pump.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: jerry merrill on July 19, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
Thanks for the info, I guess they wired the other R model pumps in with the ignition switch.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 19, 2020, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: jerry merrill on July 19, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
Thanks for the info, I guess they wired the other R model pumps in with the ignition switch.
I think it was more typical for the electric fuel pump to have a separate switch.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 19, 2020, 06:49:01 PM
Safety reason?  The equivalent of a kill switch old school style?
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: sfm5 on July 19, 2020, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: deathsled on July 19, 2020, 06:49:01 PM
Safety reason?  The equivalent of a kill switch old school style?

Effective security device too, if you hid the toggle.  ;D
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: deathsled on July 19, 2020, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on July 19, 2020, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: deathsled on July 19, 2020, 06:49:01 PM
Safety reason?  The equivalent of a kill switch old school style?

Effective security device too, if you hid the toggle.  ;D
Quite true.  Also true, it is a manual and these days, that is its own security mechanism against theft.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: KPHARTLEY on July 22, 2020, 09:00:13 AM
BEAUTIFUL CAR, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESTORE A 1965R OR EVEN A REGULAR 1965 SHELBY, YOU SHOULD A LEAST USE THE RIGHT FUEL PUMP.  NOT A 1966-1967 BUTTON TOP.  3.8 MILLION SHOULD GET YOU A 100 POINT RESTO!  JUST SAYING.

KEN H.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 22, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: KPHARTLEY on July 22, 2020, 09:00:13 AM
BEAUTIFUL CAR, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESTORE A 1965R OR EVEN A REGULAR 1965 SHELBY, YOU SHOULD A LEAST USE THE RIGHT FUEL PUMP.  NOT A 1966-1967 BUTTON TOP.  3.8 MILLION SHOULD GET YOU A 100 POINT RESTO!  JUST SAYING.

KEN H.

I see a canister.  Something so trivial would not have been overlooked on this car.  Also, there were several engine variations, they chose what was thought to be correct when the car was raced at Green Valley, which if I remember right is a 5 bolt 289.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: KPHARTLEY on July 22, 2020, 11:16:36 AM
Thank you Charles for pointing that out.  I didn't realize that the button head pumps came with a filter.  Was this something race only?
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 22, 2020, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: KPHARTLEY on July 22, 2020, 11:16:36 AM
Thank you Charles for pointing that out.  I didn't realize that the button head pumps came with a filter.  Was this something race only?
FYI 65 289 V8's typically came with a button top with integral filter.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: J_Speegle on July 22, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-130419181753.jpeg)
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: KPHARTLEY on July 23, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
Thank you all for your information, I stand corrected.  What would be the list or stamped number for that pump?

Ken H.
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 23, 2020, 10:12:35 AM
Quote from: KPHARTLEY on July 23, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
What would be the list or stamped number for that pump?

Ken H.

Hipo would be 3939S
Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: Helmantel on July 23, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on July 22, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: KPHARTLEY on July 22, 2020, 09:00:13 AM
BEAUTIFUL CAR, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESTORE A 1965R OR EVEN A REGULAR 1965 SHELBY, YOU SHOULD A LEAST USE THE RIGHT FUEL PUMP.  NOT A 1966-1967 BUTTON TOP.  3.8 MILLION SHOULD GET YOU A 100 POINT RESTO!  JUST SAYING.

KEN H.

I see a canister.  Something so trivial would not have been overlooked on this car.  Also, there were several engine variations, they chose what was thought to be correct when the car was raced at Green Valley, which if I remember right is a 5 bolt 289.

Since the car must have come with a 6 bolt engine from Ford, they had installed an earlier engine? I can imagine they just took one from their inventory of already race prepped Cobra race engines and spent their time and effort on getting the rest of the car ready instead.

Title: Re: Flying Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 23, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Helmantel on July 23, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Since the car must have come with a 6 bolt engine from Ford, they had installed an earlier engine? I can imagine they just took one from their inventory of already race prepped Cobra race engines and spent their time and effort on getting the rest of the car ready instead.

Right, it would have come from Ford with the 6 bolt.  The car was restored to the best representation as it was raced at Green Valley, Feb 14, 1965.  It arrived at Venice at the end of October, supposedly around Halloween, 1964.  That's 2 full months of build/testing... it was the first competition model prototype and most likely changed day to day.  There were probably hundreds, if not thousands of miles put on it during that time and the 6 bolt was probably used up or would have needed a rebuild before the first race.