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Title: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on September 19, 2020, 04:36:00 PM
A good friend of mine just came by and showed me some pictures of a very interesting engine. It apparently has CS006 stamped in multiple locations. It is supposedly built on a 460 dimension engine.
It is very exotic looking as you can see in the pictures, cast for a dry sump application, all aluminum. Apparently the valve covers, fuel rails and a lot of the AN fittings were plated in gold Or copper when he got it. Help
Thanks, Karl
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS0006 engine?
Post by: 2112 on September 20, 2020, 12:24:19 AM
Definitely SVO A460 heads and intake manifold.

It could be a SVO A460 block, but those are custom main caps, not the SVO caps that come with the block. Can't see enough of the block to be 100% sure.

The skirts and pan/sump are aftermarket, maybe custom made.

627 cubic inches is definitely doable with an SVO Block

Edit, I missed that it is an aluminum block. Mine are iron SVO so that means I am not sure who's block it is. Maybe Alan Root's or Carroll Carter's?
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS0006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on September 20, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Thanks for the response, I appreciate it very much. Any idea what the large casting is in the left side of the block? I assume it's for an oil pump drive for the dry sump. Any chance that the CS006 stamps on this engine could mean it was from Shelby? I thought I would contact Shelby America engine shop and see if they have any thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS0006 engine?
Post by: 2112 on September 20, 2020, 12:30:59 PM
I think you are correct, a gear driven dry-sump pump.

Probably get some answers here;  https://www.460ford.com
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS0006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on September 20, 2020, 01:45:18 PM
Thanks, I'll put it out on https://www.460ford.com/
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: 2112 on September 20, 2020, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: Karguy on September 20, 2020, 01:45:18 PM
Thanks, I'll put it out on https://www.460ford.com/

Let us know what you find out.

Actually, looking at it again, maybe it is belt-driven outside of the casing.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on September 20, 2020, 10:55:10 PM
Thanks for looking again, if you have any brainstorms, please let me know.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: 2112 on September 21, 2020, 12:26:13 AM
Randy might know, he usually checks in early in mornings.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: gt350hr on September 21, 2020, 12:07:32 PM
     460 based aluminum Alan Root block , SVO A460 heads , Crower crank and rods. A 4.600 bore and 4.75 stroke is possible but would be 632 CI.  Yes 99% sure it is a Carroll Shelby Engine Co built engine by the CS006. The engine co. was bought by Bill Denbeste and moved from So Cal to Nor Cal , so "I" am not sure they still have the build information. The large extra accessory drive was standard on those blocks and could be configured as an oil pump but was most often used to locate the distributor ( magneto) when a Rootes supercharger was used. Aluminum main caps were an option back then. Ford sold the blocks and eventually Raceparts Distribution Inc ( gone now) took over block manufacturing , eventually selling the rights to Carroll Carter who still sells them today. Blue Thunder valve covers , custom made oil pan.
   Randy
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: TA Coupe on September 27, 2020, 04:14:04 AM
 the oil pan makes me think that it's a boat motor. possibly for offshore racing.

    Roy
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on October 01, 2020, 11:24:48 PM
Randy, You are a wealth of information, thank you very much. I will send the information to Shelby  American and see if they have any additional thoughts.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Don Johnston on October 02, 2020, 04:45:19 AM
Maybe someone at Denbeste's shop in Windsor, CA has some recollection or info at 
https://www.shelbyengines.com/


Shelby American in Las Vegas would probably refer you to them. 8)
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Karguy on October 02, 2020, 10:01:01 AM
Great thought Don, I will try to contact them today. Thank you
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: gt350hr on October 02, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
   Denbeste bought Shelby Engine Co. Joe @ Denbeste may be able to look up the information for you. tell him Randy Gillis  told you to call. He might hang up immediately ! Seriously Joe is a great guy I deal with all the time.
Title: Re: Can anyone help identify this CS006 engine?
Post by: Side-Oilers on October 02, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
Quote from: gt350hr on October 02, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
   Denbeste bought Shelby Engine Co. Joe @ Denbeste may be able to look up the information for you. tell him Randy Gillis  told you to call. He might hang up immediately ! Seriously Joe is a great guy I deal with all the time.

+1 on Joe at Denbeste. He built the engine in my KR.  Joe always has been a nice guy and willing to help.