This car has one of the worst stances I've ever seen on a '66 Mustang, and what about that '69 rollerbar? ???
https://www.classic-carauction.com/auction-cars?auctionid=11530
1966 SHELBY GT350 CONTINUATION
The car is the last '66 GT350 convertible Carroll Shelby ever commissioned. Shelby built four convertibles in 1966, twelve continuation convertibles with Beverly Hills Mustang in the 80s, and then this car in 1990.
SFM6S2393
McCormick's Palm Springs
Auction: Nov 20, 2020 to Nov 22, 2020
Location: Palm Springs, California, 92262
Stock #: 257
It certainly is unique ;)
Is this the one that was not licensed by Shelby or had the license permission revoked and periodically comes back up for auction? It also was used in a magazine car cover with CS, I believe. 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on October 18, 2020, 07:10:42 PM
Is this the one that was not licensed by Shelby or had the license permission revoked and periodically comes back up for auction? It also was used in a magazine car cover with CS, I believe. 8)
First of the CS continuation car saga. He reactivated his mfg lic and J Brunk of Beverly Hills Mustang built the cars. They had to be 80% new to qualify as "new" manufacture. They were not a licensed build but an actual SA manufactured new car.. They were all junk and needed a lot of work when Brunk got done with them. There were 12 4 for Brunk, 4 for CS and 4 to sell and pay for all 12. Brunk had some health problems and car builds were real slow.
Ponysite for the win. Not one of the 12 Shelby/Brunk manufactured ones - but one built when CS realized he could make easy money just selling you a license to build your own Shelby.
http://www.ponysite.de/shelbyconvertible.htm (http://www.ponysite.de/shelbyconvertible.htm)
Quote from: silverton_ford on October 18, 2020, 08:48:10 PM
http://www.ponysite.de/shelbyconvertible.htm (http://www.ponysite.de/shelbyconvertible.htm)
Ah, the Lenny Shabes clone. Thanks for posting, specially noting that it does not have an authorized Shelby VIN. It keeps popping back up for auction for sale to the uninformed.
In the Lenny Shabes story, Carroll's name wasn't even spelled right. Spelling in that story was:
Caroll, missing an "R".
And misspelled more than once🙄
Is this car titled with 2393 or its original ford vin?
If 2393 how did they get that done.
More history discussed here:
- https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2012/08/29/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1966-shelby-g-t-350 (https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2012/08/29/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1966-shelby-g-t-350)
and
- https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-very-last-%e2%80%9866-shelby-gt350-convertible-ever-built/ (https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-very-last-%e2%80%9866-shelby-gt350-convertible-ever-built/)
Is this similar to the "Black Hornet" ?
And this is why I continue to love this forum, the truth always comes out. ;)
I was there at the 6th annual Palm Springs Road Races and Shelby Roast NOV 16-18 1990 where the guy had the car on display for the first time in the vendor area. It was a painted chassis and had a new at the time Ford roller cam crate engine on a stand next to it. I had a long talk with him . He was trying to get deposits on future built cars. He hadn't finished the first one yet. It never had a tag issued from Shelby then or ever. A Shelby tag appeared on the car seemingly by magic later. Back in the day rumor had it that CS wanted 10,000.00 per copy licensing fee. The deal fell through when he couldn't come up with the money. I am thinking he wanted 70K in 1990 for a completed car. He didn't seem to have too much Shelby car knowledge and came off like sounding like a con man. I have seen the car in numerous auctions in the past which seemed to be the venues of choice given just the bare minimum of leading details where released and not time enough to research them before it would cross the block. The story was always spun that it was a real Shelby. I always got a kick out of listening to the BS of each owner at the time was spurting out trying to pass the hot potato off to the next guy.
With a large enough donation to the current CS Licensing group, it might get a pass as a Shelby vehicle and put in their "Shelby Registry", but not in the SAAC Registry. It is a continuation only in its continual effort to be recognized as something that it is not. But it is a nicely modified Mustang convertible. It's greatest value is probably in its convoluted history. It needs a "WANNA B" personalized license plate. 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on October 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
With a large enough donation to the current CS Licensing group, it might get a pass as a Shelby vehicle and put in their "Shelby Registry", but not in the SAAC Registry. It is a continuation only in its continual effort to be recognized as something that it is not. But it is a nicely modified Mustang convertible. It's greatest value is probably in its convoluted history. It needs a "WANNA B" personalized license plate. 8)
I found out this past January's BJ auction that the Eleanor licensing fees were 35K per car. I wonder what the current Shelby American INC. licensing fee for a car like the one in question would be?
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 20, 2020, 11:57:17 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on October 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
With a large enough donation to the current CS Licensing group, it might get a pass as a Shelby vehicle and put in their "Shelby Registry", but not in the SAAC Registry. It is a continuation only in its continual effort to be recognized as something that it is not. But it is a nicely modified Mustang convertible. It's greatest value is probably in its convoluted history. It needs a "WANNA B" personalized license plate. 8)
I found out this past January's BJ auction that the Eleanor licensing fees were 35K per car. I wonder what the current Shelby American INC. licensing fee for a car like the one in question would be?
I guess Denice Halicki learned something about licensing fees from the CS Licensing folks. 8)
Isn't this Rick Nash's car? Rick has had many Shelbys over the years and IIRC he has a red cont car and says it was the only red car made(continuations). Rick's 66 GT350(red)FB went for 195K many years ago at BJ and the same time his 68 GT350 LG FB brought 130K(143K) which I think was an auction record for a 68 GT350 FB . Both cars I believe were SAAC gold in 2009(?). Anyways I think he sold both and bought this car and I think Jeff James also did work on it. Rick is ENGINEER here on the forum and maybe will chime in. Gary
his 66. https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-GT350-FASTBACK-80909
his 68 (sold twice-2010 and then 2014 this time for more $$) https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT350-FASTBACK-161621
No 2393 is not my car. I own 2381.
Quote from: Engineer on October 23, 2020, 06:55:17 AM
No 2393 is not my car. I own 2381.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. Gary
So what is a clone worth ? Use it as a driver.
$83k reserve lifted
Sold $87,000
Back up for auction - Mecum Kissimmee 2024: https://www.mecum.com/lots/1100891/1966-ford-shelby-gt350-continuation-convertible/ (https://www.mecum.com/lots/1100891/1966-ford-shelby-gt350-continuation-convertible/)
The Mecum description claims "Officially authorized by Carroll Shelby himself" I wonder if they think the fact that he autographed the dash is proof that he officially authorized it . First off even if the autographed part was autographed separately and then added to the car or CS autographed it on the car CS most likely was not aware which car it was . CS didn't get any licensing money for this car while he was alive that I am aware of . It would be interesting to press them on what proof they have for their statement not that it makes much difference on this car even if they did buy into a licensing deal in recent years with Shelby licensing. This car has been a perennial auction house hot potato for the past 30 years since the first guy (not Shelby) built it.
Was it a "K" car ?
Is this one of those auction cars we can comment on without being sued? Lots here to go "uh-oh" over.
Quote from: Grumpy on October 26, 2023, 10:54:01 AM
Was it a "K" car ?
I don't believe so given the under funded budget it was initially built with. It has always had a Bogus Shelby VIN tag covering the Ford VIN.
should be entertaining at Mecum 2024
can't wait.....they do sell popcorn there right?