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Title: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: Brant on March 23, 2018, 04:45:33 PM
I had shared several Blog posts containing lots of images of the ongoing restoration of '66 Shelby 6S933 on the old forum. There haven't been many posts lately, so here's a link to a new one as the painting process begins.  I'll post more updates as the restoration moves forward.

I've posted quite a few pictures in this particular post, so please click on the link or picture to see more. If you subscribe to the Blog, you will automatically get updates on new posts.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y0a-2r0GlYck1BG7YuMb4r_Z6YsiPHdYZMI4zN0r9i8Zr16C5qzWk6uJ-srjcq2oHuLn0PhawzPODQvGV6QySEQXRukCVM03jLUYtUZkhDBG-xVaVBsNGekoGy1ZMaGT4KDQPCmPK-3R2m6925SQ3kOW7XUhjE197uq3bYxBK3R5iZZT1j0w3ocJGeIgP1LftgBLYjEFfvwop4jR6DDWmWPBtWheWYksqbBPYt0XDRHAjDkd1iBFHbulMXX2shqxL4deapWqcsWbkvDToSO5MXj3oVEOYIzlPbn1164eY2gpBaq93X6EtSCiFN_vzlO5hH6aRYw6jEN77pQk7RBkP1VZ61CfTfJRqpWzMZSeKsw4kkaphKso6pBDc2GbZYab63-yjaacRMcFrFOjkuEgDORqrBpaRmayKSjAWooYKjYDGRA6doJgoJonL2I5fKPgyCf5XtbP3pt0Pt-0MjMeiw6TcdCejH70_DZ9Pa1m4tNOoaY1BZMafa_786Ef9zjvtBCOJWGxlNS5hOvFO8p2VnPWvzHIh-qoYcFQuRZXydONBHGaEHi5sm9_moF4ADWaFeC44WPLFKtpoai_67t2d4muURkl5a9LLQT6reobN30V8EvB89lSTCvyBHK5_0vyZ5Alj6hxaqETnPlTdhFLv9kNXUfQAy6Djw=w600-no) (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/03/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html)

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/03/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: 6S1568 on March 23, 2018, 08:40:21 PM
Hi Brant, I do follow the posts on your blog, I love the photos, and your shop does incredible work. Maybe someday Maple Hill will have 6S1568 there too. I'm not done driving it yet. Thanks for sharing. Denny
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: Greg on March 23, 2018, 08:46:34 PM
Brant,

Thanks for sharing, Jeremy does an amazing job!

Greg
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: GT350Lad on March 23, 2018, 09:39:16 PM
Amazing work
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: EdwardGT350 on March 23, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
assuming most of the blue wheel well paint will be covered over in black undercoating?
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: Shelby_r_b on March 23, 2018, 10:48:29 PM
Amazing blog!

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: Dkutz on March 24, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
Your attention to detail is amazing.  I am torn, because I feel these cars should be driven, and I am not sure a car will be used after this level of restoration.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: mark p on March 24, 2018, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on March 24, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
Your attention to detail is amazing.  I am torn, because I feel these cars should be driven, and I am not sure a car will be used after this level of restoration.

seems as though recently the path suggested by some is to: restore, then collect the significant awards, and after that start driving (need the "peel out" smilie here)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 25, 2018, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: EdwardGT350 on March 23, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
assuming most of the blue wheel well paint will be covered over in black undercoating?

No, it is done correctly.  Sound deadener first and then body color.  The only way it would have 'undercoating' is if a dealer or previous owner applied it after the car was built/shipped.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: SFM6S087 on March 26, 2018, 04:33:45 AM
Quote from: mark p on March 24, 2018, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on March 24, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
Your attention to detail is amazing.  I am torn, because I feel these cars should be driven, and I am not sure a car will be used after this level of restoration.

seems as though recently the path suggested by some is to: restore, then collect the significant awards, and after that start driving (need the "peel out" smilie here)

Some of us really do restore and then drive. I had mine restored to "near" perfection. (I don't believe there is such a thing as a truly perfect car.) Correct overspray patterns, production line parts, the whole ball of wax. Started driving it the day it came home. I skipped collecting the significant awards because that's not important to me.

It's all a matter of priorities, and mine is driving. But I'm happy that not everyone thinks like me. I enjoy looking at the concours winning trailer queens. And I admire the knowledge and skill that goes into a project like that.

BTW, using 50-plus year old, factory, production line electrical parts is not the hot tip of the day for reliability. You can probably figure out how I learned that. Ha, ha!

Steve
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: GT350Lad on March 26, 2018, 06:20:55 AM
I agree with Steve, I am aiming for a similar type of car. Everything correct but a car that isn't afraid to get her tyres dirty. Sort of how it rolled out of SA. Not a car that I drive without care but one that gets used. Just my 2 cents. Everyone has there own way.

Cheers
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: kingchief on March 26, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
+2...I agree with Steve and GT350lad [although if I get the tires dirty, she's up on the jack stands getting a bubble bath!] ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: J_Speegle on March 27, 2018, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: caspian65 on March 25, 2018, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: EdwardGT350 on March 23, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
assuming most of the blue wheel well paint will be covered over in black undercoating?

No, it is done correctly.  Sound deadener first and then body color.  The only way it would have 'undercoating' is if a dealer or previous owner applied it after the car was built/shipped.

Might want to look over that undercarriage article I posted the link to


http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=380.msg1914#msg1914


Was not uncommon for owners to black out wheel wells with a little rattle can. Still do it today on new cars I purchase if they don't have those black plastic fender liners ::)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: GT350Lad on March 28, 2018, 04:39:13 AM
Quote from: kingchief on March 26, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
+2...I agree with Steve and GT350lad [although if I get the tires dirty, she's up on the jack stands getting a bubble bath!] ;D

Steve

Yeah gotta give her a good clean. Agree mate!
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Here is a question, on picture 24 of 55 in the Virginia Mustang blog.  Why does the core support have a dot of yellow paint in the middle of the top part?    Does that yellow paint tell someone on the assembly line something as it is being built?
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: J_Speegle on March 28, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Here is a question, on picture 24 of 55 in the Virginia Mustang blog.  Why does the core support have a dot of yellow paint in the middle of the top part?    Does that yellow paint tell someone on the assembly line something as it is being built?

Yes it does by yours may not have had the same mark. Seen allot without it.

The purpose of just about all markings is to get someones attention, let them know something quickly about the car coming to their station, indicate something has been completed, inspected, checked, paint color to use................ Shifts and workers assigned the task of marking the bodies would sometimes differ but each had their method. These may seem random until you see enough of them and patterns/habits often become apparent


And you will also notice the writing on the radiator support (again instructions or indicators to other workers on the line) they are covered by engine compartment black when the car is painted not over it as you see in some "restoration" ;)

Did the same (different writing and of course plant & year) on my Boss about three years back
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 28, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Here is a question, on picture 24 of 55 in the Virginia Mustang blog.  Why does the core support have a dot of yellow paint in the middle of the top part?    Does that yellow paint tell someone on the assembly line something as it is being built?

Yes it does by yours may not have had the same mark. Seen allot without it.

The purpose of just about all markings is to get someones attention, let them know something quickly about the car coming to their station, indicate something has been completed, inspected, checked, paint color to use................ Shifts and workers assigned the task of marking the bodies would sometimes differ but each had their method. These may seem random until you see enough of them and patterns/habits often become apparent


And you will also notice the writing on the radiator support (again instructions or indicators to other workers on the line) they are covered by engine compartment black when the car is painted not over it as you see in some "restoration" ;)

Did the same (different writing and of course plant & year) on my Boss about three years back

Thank you, I appreciate the answer.

I didn't ask my question correctly, but what does that one particular paint mark on the core support mean?

I understand the markings in other places mean different things to workers on the line,  just curious what that one on upper core support meant.   I am probably sweating the details too much. Is it Shelby specific or did all Mustangs get that yellow mark (on the core upper support exactly)?

I love the level of detail this car has.  It is amazing!  I would love to do this to my car someday, but I have so much to learn first.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: Brant on March 28, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
It's interesting to note that this yellow marking was also found under the dash/cowl area below where the export brace reinforcement piece was welded to the cowl on both 6S933 and 6S033.

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...then after sealer

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: J_Speegle on March 28, 2018, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Brant on March 28, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
It's interesting to note that this yellow marking was also found under the dash/cowl area below where the export brace reinforcement piece was welded to the cowl on both 6S933 and 6S033.

Yes really odd/interesting. Thanks for sharing.  Not something I've ever found nor have others mentioned/documented. But not an area easily accessed nor seen.  Noticed that you didn't mention that you saw the same mark on the other 66's you two have done

Not sure why a mark would need to be place in the interior side but then we have these two examples.

Have found yellow (fairly large) prepaint marks in the trunk and a couple of other locations (even gold) on other years and models
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: 6s2020 on March 28, 2018, 07:37:12 PM
Excellent work Brant, feel free to delete this post , to keep focus on 933

On 2020 the yellow is more substantial right across the support. (sanded the black off to reveal)

The original yellow D is above the black.( if indeed it is a D)

drivers side "26" is under the black

pass side "DSO" is under the black
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: Brant on March 28, 2018, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: 6s2020 on March 28, 2018, 07:37:12 PM
Excellent work Brant, feel free to delete this post , to keep focus on 933

On 2020 the yellow is more substantial right across the support. (sanded the black of to reveal)

The original yellow D is above the black.( if indeed it is a D)

drivers side "26" is under the black

pass side "DSO" is under the black

Very cool. Thanks for sharing these pictures.
Title: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: Brant on May 11, 2018, 10:14:00 AM
6S933 is painted!!! I can't wait to post pictures after some of the "pretty stuff" gets installed!

Click here for the latest post and more images:
http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/05/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: gt350cs on May 11, 2018, 11:08:45 AM
Amazing pictures. Always appreciate the updates.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: gjz30075 on May 11, 2018, 12:16:36 PM
Looks great, Brant!    I can't tell from the pics but is it safe to assume the pinch weld gets painted black?
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: 6R07mi on May 11, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 28, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Here is a question, on picture 24 of 55 in the Virginia Mustang blog.  Why does the core support have a dot of yellow paint in the middle of the top part?    Does that yellow paint tell someone on the assembly line something as it is being built?

I understand the markings in other places mean different things to workers on the line,  just curious what that one on upper core support meant.   I am probably sweating the details too much. Is it Shelby specific or did all Mustangs get that yellow mark (on the core upper support exactly)?

I can comment my San Jose Nov 1965 built non-Shelby also had the sloppy splash of yellow across the top of the core support much like what is shown in Darryll's (6s2020) photo.

regards,
jim p
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: Brant on May 11, 2018, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: gjz30075 on May 11, 2018, 12:16:36 PM
Looks great, Brant!    I can't tell from the pics but is it safe to assume the pinch weld gets painted black?

Yes! That still needs to be done along with the blackout at the side scoops.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: J_Speegle on May 11, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: gjz30075 on May 11, 2018, 12:16:36 PM
Looks great, Brant!    I can't tell from the pics but is it safe to assume the pinch weld gets painted black?

Sure Jeremy will get to that. Looks like the pictures may be pre engine compartment paint also.

Like the non 100% coverage of body color in all the nooks and crannies of the trunk :)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933
Post by: gt350hr on May 11, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: 6R07mi on May 11, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 28, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on March 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Here is a question, on picture 24 of 55 in the Virginia Mustang blog.  Why does the core support have a dot of yellow paint in the middle of the top part?    Does that yellow paint tell someone on the assembly line something as it is being built?

I understand the markings in other places mean different things to workers on the line,  just curious what that one on upper core support meant.   I am probably sweating the details too much. Is it Shelby specific or did all Mustangs get that yellow mark (on the core upper support exactly)?

I can comment my San Jose Nov 1965 built non-Shelby also had the sloppy splash of yellow across the top of the core support much like what is shown in Darryll's (6s2020) photo.

regards,
jim p

     Jim,
        6S477 had yellow paint ( under the black) on the top of  the core support about 18"s wide and favoring the driver's side.It was more of a "taxi cab" yellow than a "canary yellow".  Brush paint , not spray. It was probably built in Oct at SJ by the Ford vin.
      Randy
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: davez on May 12, 2018, 04:50:33 PM
1127 will begin restoration later this year. It too has the yellow on the radiator support and  inside the firewall. It also has large D in yellow inside on each kick panel

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/175-120518162953.jpeg)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/175-120518164121.jpeg)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/175-120518165339.jpeg)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/175-120518165415.jpeg)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 12, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
For those reading be sure that after the restoration that the yellow paint on the radiator support is under the black engine bay paint and not on top of the black paint were it is visible. It is easy to get confused on these nuance details which are good to know about but are not seen once restored.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 5/11/18
Post by: J_Speegle on May 12, 2018, 05:28:55 PM
On a few odd/rare cars you can sometimes find a yellow paint splash under the exterior paint in the trunk area also. Think the latest I've seen for San Jose was in 69

As for 66 production the marking on the top of the radiator support I've not found a pattern yet since not all of the cars seem to have this marking. As others have mentioned this is under the engine compartment black and about the only thing you may see on the finished produce is a ripple in the black paint or drips in the black as a results of the runs in the yellow below. Just like when its found in the trunk surface. On the top of the radiator  support it can some times look or be confused with some firewall sealant that at times got applied to the general same location by a messy worker ::)

It's not like the crayon marks under the black that can produce more of a shadow at times when observed from an angle in the black paint applied over those markings
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 9/18
Post by: Brant on September 15, 2018, 05:02:43 PM
Finally another update on the restoration of 6S933. Click on the link or pictures to see more.

You can also subscribe to my Blog by clicking here (https://virginiaclassicmustang.us6.list-manage.com/subscribe/post?u=254b42eb1cd5f3769fc04af41&id=84b9aa5260). I'll have another post with more pictures next week.

Click here for the link to more pictures and info. (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/09/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html)

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Brant on November 13, 2018, 08:47:02 AM
More pictures on the restoration of 6S933. It's starting to come together now!

Click on the link or one of the images for more pictures.

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/11/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: 6s2020 on November 13, 2018, 07:28:56 PM
Great work Brant & Co, looking good.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 14, 2018, 07:53:17 AM

Great looking work, and an amazing color, but i might be biased.   :)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: 66TotalPerf on December 08, 2018, 04:33:18 PM
Brant,

You guys are making quality progress on this car!

Question - I thought with an earlier/mid 66, like 6s933, that the washer fluid reservoir bag would be the black/white version, not the gold lettering version you've used? When is the approx Shelby/Ford switchover point or why'd you go with the gold version?

Thanks!
Brent
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Brant on December 08, 2018, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: BrentW on December 08, 2018, 04:33:18 PM
Brant,

You guys are making quality progress on this car!

Question - I thought with an earlier/mid 66, like 6s933, that the washer fluid reservoir bag would be the black/white version, not the gold lettering version you've used? When is the approx Shelby/Ford switchover point or why'd you go with the gold version?

Thanks!
Brent

Brent,

I think this was discussed in another thread, but yeah, the general thought used to be that the gold lettered bag did not appear until very late '66. I used to even list it that way.

With more research, it appears that this particular style was used earlier than that. There are several examples, but I know that even 6S598 that appears in the April 1966 edition of Sports Car Graphic has the gold lettered bag. 6S933 had its original.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Greg on December 08, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
This is an incredible build and thanks to Brant for sharing it! 

I have a question for the Shelby Judges, how would you judge this car.  Obviously, there has been great pains and money spent to recreate the painting over spray process but I don't believe Ford or Shelby took such great pains originally.  I respect what has been done and my question is one of education and definitely not to criticize. 

It looks like an amazing better than factory build quality.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Brant on December 08, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Greg on December 08, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
This is an incredible build and thanks to Brant for sharing it! 

I have a question for the Shelby Judges, how would you judge this car.  Obviously, there has been great pains and money spent to recreate the painting over spray process but I don't believe Ford or Shelby took such great pains originally.  I respect what has been done and my question is one of education and definitely not to criticize. 

It looks like an amazing better than factory build quality.

I'll take this one...6S033 was built the same way and scored a high gold in Div. II/Concours at the Indianapolis convention.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Greg on December 08, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: Brant on December 08, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Greg on December 08, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
This is an incredible build and thanks to Brant for sharing it! 

I have a question for the Shelby Judges, how would you judge this car.  Obviously, there has been great pains and money spent to recreate the painting over spray process but I don't believe Ford or Shelby took such great pains originally.  I respect what has been done and my question is one of education and definitely not to criticize. 

It looks like an amazing better than factory build quality.

I'll take this one...6S033 was built the same way and scored a high gold in Div. II/Concours at the Indianapolis convention.

Brant, that's great and deserving.  I assume a car that was done close to assembly line methods would also score the same?  The restorations that Jeremy does are exceptional. 
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Brant on December 08, 2018, 08:24:40 PM


Brant, that's great and deserving.  I assume a car that was done close to assembly line methods would also score the same?  The restorations that Jeremy does are exceptional.
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Well, exact overspray patterns are duplicated, etc. and all details are put back as found, so...

There are many different methods used when restoring a car and "qualities" of restoration. This particular way is very time consuming with more time spent on details such as dent removal, pitting removal, panel straightness, etc...lots of time.

If the details and parts are correct, yes, the car will score well. There will always be a small deduction for base/clear paint if it is sanded and buffed i.e. doesn't look like the original single stage finish/without orange peel.

If you are interested in more details, it would be easier to give me a call.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 11/13/18
Post by: Greg on December 08, 2018, 08:33:48 PM
Thank you Brant, I truly appreciate the knowledge and clarification and will call to discuss.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Restoration 6S933- Update 11/13
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 08, 2018, 09:14:15 PM
Quote from: Greg on December 08, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
This is an incredible build and thanks to Brant for sharing it! 

I have a question for the Shelby Judges, how would you judge this car.  Obviously, there has been great pains and money spent to recreate the painting over spray process but I don't believe Ford or Shelby took such great pains originally.  I respect what has been done and my question is one of education and definitely not to criticize. 

It looks like an amazing better than factory build quality.
That question is a ironic one because Ford DIDN'T take great pains in the painting and sealing process and that is why there is over spray in various places .  If Ford was more careful and took more care there wouldn't be the overspray. ;) Trying to recreate the process to get the same look is the trick . It takes knowledge and ability.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 11/13/18
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 08, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
Greg,no harm no foul but wanted to clarify that from Wikipedia, Irony , in its broadest sense, is a event in which what appears, on the surface, to be the case, differs radically from what is actually the case.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 11/13/18
Post by: Greg on December 08, 2018, 09:45:04 PM
Bob, no worries, I didn't take it wrong at all.  I appreciate all the comments and that is why I am on here to learn more about the cars and processes. 

I know the restorer has taken great pains to "create" overspray and it seemed to me that just letting the overspray occur as it would have in the same manner as Ford did would have been much easier and less expensive.  There are many ways to the same end but from what I have learned is production line really wasn't created but allowed happen.  In some other restoration brands like Corvette, they actually deduct for cars that are too good.  I wasn't sure how this was judged when it came to Shelby.

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 11/13/18
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 08, 2018, 10:14:26 PM
Quote from: Greg on December 08, 2018, 09:45:04 PM
Bob, no worries, I didn't take it wrong at all.  I appreciate all the comments and that is why I am on here to learn more about the cars and processes. 

I know the restorer has taken great pains to "create" overspray and it seemed to me that just letting the overspray occur as it would have in the same manner as Ford did would have been much easier and less expensive.  There are many ways to the same end but from what I have learned is production line really wasn't created but allowed happen.  In some other restoration brands like Corvette, they actually deduct for cars that are too good.  I wasn't sure how this was judged when it came to Shelby.

Thanks,
Greg
It can be hard to create the overspray the original way when not using the same assemblyline equipment that the factory used . The guns are quite different and so are the volume levels. The same goes for the materials used. There is more to it then just letting overspray occur . If that was the case it would be easy not hard. That is if trying to replicate the way it looked on the cars from the factory. There are deductions when the overspray is missing or the patterns wrong. Too good in the context as it pertains to the concours judging that the various Mustang venues recognize means that the factory procedures that appear sloppy to some are missing and are grounds for deductions.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 11/13/18
Post by: Greg on December 08, 2018, 10:47:28 PM
Thank you for the comments!
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: Brant on April 20, 2019, 07:32:55 PM
Finally posted an update on the restoration of 6S933. It's pretty much finished except for putting some miles on it.

Its debut will be at SAAC-44 in Pittsburgh in July.

Here's the link to check out more pictures:
http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2019/04/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: J_Speegle on April 20, 2019, 07:36:14 PM
Thanks for sharing - Looks great. Looking forward to seeing it in person
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: Rocket on April 20, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
Great looking car, Brant. From you I would not expect any less. Ron
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: GT350Lad on April 20, 2019, 08:31:08 PM
Looks awesome, something to aspire to

Cheers
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: Bigfoot on April 20, 2019, 08:34:54 PM
That looks pretty cool with the "as delivered" no stripes.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: CSX 4133 on April 20, 2019, 09:38:34 PM

Great looking Shelby, I'll be anxious to see it in person in July.
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 4/21/19
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 20, 2019, 11:04:06 PM
Who says they are only new once?
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: Brant on May 02, 2020, 12:45:32 PM
Here is a link to kind of the "wrap up" post of the restoration of 1966 GT350 SFM6S933.

Kudos to Jeremy at Maple Hill Restoration for the absolute stunning restoration. The owner from NY who commissioned the restoration sold the car to another customer from here in Virginia. Click on the picture or link to see more pictures.

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2020/04/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html

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Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: chris NOS on May 02, 2020, 01:30:25 PM
Fantastic work like always from Jeremy !!!!
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: Shelby_r_b on May 02, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
LOVE this car!  Thanks again for the follow-up, Brant!
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: Grumpy on May 02, 2020, 02:36:48 PM
Nice !! like the no stripes.  8)
Title: Re: Just the Details...1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Resto 6S933- Update 5/2/2020
Post by: Side-Oilers on May 02, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Gorgeous! Great job.