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Title: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 10:54:13 AM
"How much would it cost to rent a non-replica Cobra?" No owner in their right mind would do something like this but, in theory, if someone did find a Cobra-owner willing to do it, how much would they expect to pay? While one can rent a million-dollar car such as a Ferrari, those can be replaced unlike the Cobra. This would have to be factored in to the price. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 557 on December 20, 2020, 11:21:58 AM
Priceless(if the owner cares for his car) >:(
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Bill on December 20, 2020, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 10:54:13 AM
"How much would it cost to rent a non-replica Cobra?" No owner in their right mind would do something like this but, in theory, if someone did find a Cobra-owner willing to do it, how much would they expect to pay? While one can rent a million-dollar car such as a Ferrari, those can be replaced unlike the Cobra. This would have to be factored in to the price. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Interesting question, why do you ask?

Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: SBCARGUY on December 20, 2020, 12:51:09 PM
How much do you want to pay? And what do you want to do with it?  8)
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 20, 2020, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: Bill on December 20, 2020, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 10:54:13 AM
"How much would it cost to rent a non-replica Cobra?" No owner in their right mind would do something like this but, in theory, if someone did find a Cobra-owner willing to do it, how much would they expect to pay? While one can rent a million-dollar car such as a Ferrari, those can be replaced unlike the Cobra. This would have to be factored in to the price. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Interesting question, why do you ask?
Trolling the forum would be my first thought.I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Coralsnake on December 20, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
:o

Never!
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 20, 2020, 03:49:32 PM
That's why they build continuation cars and Kirkhams. We once talked to a pontoon fender Testa Rosa owner at Monterey about the risk of racing that valuable of a car. He pointed to the serial number tag and said as long as that isn't destroyed the rest could be rebuilt.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Coralsnake on December 20, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
And the trap has been sprung....
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: TA Coupe on December 20, 2020, 04:15:07 PM
Don't forget that a cobra was rented for the making of Cannonball.

     Roy
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 557 on December 20, 2020, 04:17:07 PM
Different times....
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 04:28:42 PM
I'm working on a Loss of Use case. I can use the rental prices of million dollar cars as a base but the Cobra is in a different class.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 20, 2020, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: TA Coupe on December 20, 2020, 04:15:07 PM
Don't forget that a cobra was rented for the making of Cannonball.

     Roy

2 - Duane Bowers' got a smashed nose and Les Lindley's got a dented frame from when they slid it into the channel in the LA River. All were repaired repainted and returned. If I remember they got $1,000 for the rental. The stuntman who drove the Ferrari through the front of the trailer in the service in a semi scene got sent home.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 2112 on December 20, 2020, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: TA Coupe on December 20, 2020, 04:15:07 PM
Don't forget that a cobra was rented for the making of Cannonball.

     Roy

Uh, Gumball?
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
There's a $1.5 Million-dollar Bugatti Veyron being advertised online for rent for $25,000/Day.

If you owned that Bugatti along with a $1.5 Million-dollar 1966 Cobra CSX 3000, would you consider renting the Cobra for the same price?

A purely hypothetical question.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 20, 2020, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
There's a $1.5 Million-dollar Bugatti Veyron being advertised online for rent for $25,000/Day.

If you owned that Bugatti along with a $1.5 Million-dollar 1966 Cobra CSX 3000, would you consider renting the Cobra for the same price?

A purely hypothetical question.

It should be a lot cheaper for the 427. Greatly reduced maintenance costs.

Bugatti recommends all fluids have to be changed each year and that costs a hefty $25,000 since replacing the oil and all the other fluids takes a lot of work. The car has a whopping 16 drain plugs. The drain plugs are not easily accessible as the mechanics have to take out the rear wheels and brakes, as well as the lining on the rear fenders along with the one underneath the back of the car.

Moving on to the wheels, Bugatti advises all Veyron owners to change the tires once every couple of years and a fresh new set costs an eye-watering $38,000. As for the wheels themselves, they have to be replaced every 10,000 miles (16,093 kilometers) for a staggering $50,000.  Doing the math, we're looking at around $100,000 in maintenance costs in just a couple of years of ownership.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 20, 2020, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
There's a $1.5 Million-dollar Bugatti Veyron being advertised online for rent for $25,000/Day.

If you owned that Bugatti along with a $1.5 Million-dollar 1966 Cobra CSX 3000, would you consider renting the Cobra for the same price?

A purely hypothetical question.
It should be a lot cheaper for the 427. Greatly reduced maintenance costs.
The owner of the Bugatti will rent his car for $25,000/Day. Would he take $25,000/Day to rent his Cobra? Hypothetically. If he were you....
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Side-Oilers on December 20, 2020, 10:58:21 PM
No, I would not.

In the hands of anyone but a seasoned Cobra 427 driver, great damage (e.g. going into a spin and crashing) can result from giving a bit too much throttle, even at 70 mph.

Those cars are treacherous and not for anyone less than the very well trained. 

Those of us who own Kirkhams, and other nice replicas, probably wouldn't rent out our cars either.  But, at least a replica can be replaced. 

I realize the OP is just trying to assimilate enough info in order to prepare a market price, but with authentic Cobras that's not so easy to do.

Just about anyone can go rent most any type of late-model exotic car.  It just takes a fat credit card and signing a lot of waivers. 

I can't imagine anyone renting their CSX3000 unless it was for a static display or for a movie CGI shot, where the car is never in danger.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Bill on December 21, 2020, 05:52:11 AM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 20, 2020, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
There's a $1.5 Million-dollar Bugatti Veyron being advertised online for rent for $25,000/Day.

If you owned that Bugatti along with a $1.5 Million-dollar 1966 Cobra CSX 3000, would you consider renting the Cobra for the same price?

A purely hypothetical question.
It should be a lot cheaper for the 427. Greatly reduced maintenance costs.
The owner of the Bugatti will rent his car for $25,000/Day. Would he take $25,000/Day to rent his Cobra? Hypothetically. If he were you....

Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 20, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
There's a $1.5 Million-dollar Bugatti Veyron being advertised online for rent for $25,000/Day.

If you owned that Bugatti along with a $1.5 Million-dollar 1966 Cobra CSX 3000, would you consider renting the Cobra for the same price?

A purely hypothetical question.

Apples and Oranges, so no, you cannot compare the rental price of one vs the other in this case. Then again, you have yet to give detailed information as to timeline of loss of use? Was it recently, was it in the distant past, is it still occurring. How was the loss qualified? Was the car running and driving at the time of loss of use? If not, then the loss of use will be harder to prove, as the car was inoperable, and therefore, use would be subjective as to what type of use it could have in it's inoperable state. Quite a bit remains unknown, and only you can fill in those blanks for us to potentially offer a truly educated response.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: roddster on December 21, 2020, 09:56:24 AM
   I just wouldn't want to be "that guy" who rented it out to some fool who wrecked it.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 21, 2020, 12:44:31 PM

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Apples and Oranges, so no, you cannot compare the rental price of one vs the other in this case. Then again, you have yet to give detailed information as to timeline of loss of use? Was it recently, was it in the distant past, is it still occurring. How was the loss qualified? Was the car running and driving at the time of loss of use? If not, then the loss of use will be harder to prove, as the car was inoperable, and therefore, use would be subjective as to what type of use it could have in it's inoperable state. Quite a bit remains unknown, and only you can fill in those blanks for us to potentially offer a truly educated response.
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Hi Bill, Proving Loss of Use is the attorney's job. My job is to learn the rental cost of a Cobra.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Chad on December 21, 2020, 12:52:22 PM
It just would not happen.  These cars are only original once!  If the car was wrecked it would hurt the value for sure!
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: CSX 4133 on December 21, 2020, 02:40:16 PM

STLUCIEAPPRAISAL,

Would the intended rental be by the hour, day, etc ?  Without a specific term it would be hard to even begin a calculation. The added variables being, actually driven or used in a static display.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 427heaven on December 21, 2020, 02:45:58 PM
There just seems to be something inherently wrong with this scenerio , like asking how much would you rent out your girlfriend! Not saying that couldnt happen, just doesnt sit right some how.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 21, 2020, 04:48:59 PM
I have been able to ride in 3 of the Daytona Coupes and drive 2 of them. In the mid 70s on occasion we'd be able to bring Mike Shoen's Coupe he had in a Hollywood Museum to COCOA meetings. Several of us made some spirited blasts around the Pacific Stereo parking lot. When the reborn Sports Car Graphic borrowed Carroll's freshly restored Coupe for a test at Willow they had to get a million dollar insurance rider. I drove that one back from some static photos at the top of the track. But by agreement I didn't go over "slow". So from hop in and enjoy to strict driving rules in about 10 years. Now add in the value increase of the last 35-40 years and I doubt I'll ever get a spin in the other 3.
Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: Bill on December 21, 2020, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 21, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Hi Bill, Proving Loss of Use is the attorney's job. My job is to learn the rental cost of a Cobra.

Yet the questions above remain unanswered, what is the timeline for the loss of use 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2K's, and was the car original, unrestored, restored, or in pieces laying around the corner of a barn/garage at the time? Once more, running, or inoperable? Without these basic questions answered in great detail, your initial inquiry is moot.

Title: Re: Renting a non-replica 1966 Cobra CSX 3000
Post by: STLUCIEAPPRAISAL on December 22, 2020, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Bill on December 21, 2020, 06:02:20 PM

Yet the questions above remain unanswered, what is the timeline for the loss of use 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2K's, and was the car original, unrestored, restored, or in pieces laying around the corner of a barn/garage at the time? Once more, running, or inoperable?

The timeline is 2018 to present, Figure the car was unrestored and running.