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Title: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: 427hunter on December 28, 2020, 02:18:20 AM
Hi all,

so the calipers knocked off the stick on weights again, this is the second time using the thinnest weights. Has anyone had success with wheel weights on 10 spoke Shelby wheels, if so can you post a photo of the weights you used..

Thanks
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: 6s1640 on December 28, 2020, 03:52:42 AM
Hi 427Hunter,

I have had no issues.  I will see if I can get you a picture tomorrow.

Cory
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: CSX 4133 on December 28, 2020, 06:55:31 AM

If clearance isn't an issue it could simply be poor adhesive on the weights themselves. I've had the weights separate from the adhesive backing before, but I use Helicopter (Erosion) tape over my weights on street/race cars to prevent loosing weights.

https://www.findtape.com/ISC-Helicopter-OG-HD-Heavy-Duty-Outdoor-Grade-Surface-Guard-Tape/p570/?vid=6042&bc=F&c=US&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6q7y-Mrw7QIVA52GCh1BrgIqEAQYAiABEgKU3fD_BwE
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on December 28, 2020, 08:07:05 AM
Suggest you jack up the front end and spin the wheels in order to ascertain if clearance is an issue and that the calipers are, in fact, hitting the weights.  I would think, as stated above, it's just the adhesive.  On my track car, after having the stick-on weights applied, I cut aluminum foil adhesive tape (used by the HVAC industry for ducts) and place it over the weights with sufficient amount around the edges to keep water and dirt out.  I've never lost a weight.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: JD on December 28, 2020, 08:17:43 AM
also, clean the area that is getting the weight with brake cleaner...
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: greekz on December 28, 2020, 11:12:46 AM
Had no problems either.  Not taking any extra precautions.  Will get a picture tomorrow.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: jk66gt350 on December 28, 2020, 11:19:12 AM
Have never had an issue with a tape weight coming off my 10 spokes in the almost 35 years I've owned it.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: 427hunter on December 29, 2020, 10:54:08 PM
Thanks for all the ideas! I will try the tape idea, I always know when the weights are gone because I get a front end wobble at around 50mph.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: greekz on December 30, 2020, 12:35:30 AM
Quote from: greekz on December 28, 2020, 11:12:46 AM
Had no problems either.  Not taking any extra precautions.  Will get a picture tomorrow.

Sorry, could not get a picture.

Greek
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: 427hunter on December 30, 2020, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: greekz on December 30, 2020, 12:35:30 AM
Quote from: greekz on December 28, 2020, 11:12:46 AM
Had no problems either.  Not taking any extra precautions.  Will get a picture tomorrow.

Sorry, could not get a picture.

Greek


NP, thanks anyway..
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: pmustang on December 30, 2020, 02:08:51 AM
My garage balances my new wheels and puts on stick on weights. Fairly often they are on the floor the next day. The adhesive is crap
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: CSX 4133 on December 30, 2020, 09:42:32 AM

Another tip to removing the remaining adhesive is to use a 3M adhesive remover wheel on a cordless drill.  These are similar to the one's used for removing decals/pin striping, but are meant for adhesive.

They remove the stuck on adhesive without damaging the wheels. Then wipe down the area with brake cleaner or 70% alcohol prior to adding weights.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: 67 GT350 on December 30, 2020, 01:18:11 PM
This may and probably is a dumb question, but it would be dumber of me not to ask or mention this. Could your car have a set of wrong calipers on it?
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: shelbydoug on December 30, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Over the last 40 years I've had three complete sets of 10 spokes. Originals.

All were purchased used by me. The first set is a legitimate 67 set with no cast in spacers.

It's been a long time since I bought those but I'm very sure that they had indications on the edge of the rims of having clip on weights on them. Jeff, WTF?


I can tell you that IF you are using either the 67, no-spacer wheel or the 68 type with the cast in spacer, you do not have enough room to use tape on weights on the inside of the wheel in the vicinity of the brake caliper.

Besides the fact that you should be grinding off the witness line (in the casting) of the caliper for clearance, the weights should go between the spokes of the wheel. Nowhere else.

I know that is seemingly against the laws of the Universe but hey, those wheels are genuine Shelby items, not Ford and in case you didn't know it by now, Shelby marched to the beat of his own drum. So that's the way it is. Love 'em or leave 'um.  ::)
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 30, 2020, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on December 30, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Over the last 40 years I've had three complete sets of 10 spokes. Originals.

All were purchased used by me. The first set is a legitimate 67 set with no cast in spacers.

It's been a long time since I bought those but I'm very sure that they had indications on the edge of the rims of having clip on weights on them. Jeff, WTF?


I can tell you that IF you are using either the 67, no-spacer wheel or the 68 type with the cast in spacer, you do not have enough room to use tape on weights on the inside of the wheel in the vicinity of the brake caliper.

Besides the fact that you should be grinding off the witness line (in the casting) of the caliper for clearance, the weights should go between the spokes of the wheel. Nowhere else.

I know that is seemingly against the laws of the Universe but hey, those wheels are genuine Shelby items, not Ford and in case you didn't know it by now, Shelby marched to the beat of his own drum. So that's the way it is. Love 'em or leave 'um.  ::)
I thought I would remind that this is a 66 Shelby category thread and consequently the default would be talking about 66 14 inch tenspoke wheels.
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: shelbydoug on December 30, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 30, 2020, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on December 30, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Over the last 40 years I've had three complete sets of 10 spokes. Originals.

All were purchased used by me. The first set is a legitimate 67 set with no cast in spacers.

It's been a long time since I bought those but I'm very sure that they had indications on the edge of the rims of having clip on weights on them. Jeff, WTF?


I can tell you that IF you are using either the 67, no-spacer wheel or the 68 type with the cast in spacer, you do not have enough room to use tape on weights on the inside of the wheel in the vicinity of the brake caliper.

Besides the fact that you should be grinding off the witness line (in the casting) of the caliper for clearance, the weights should go between the spokes of the wheel. Nowhere else.

I know that is seemingly against the laws of the Universe but hey, those wheels are genuine Shelby items, not Ford and in case you didn't know it by now, Shelby marched to the beat of his own drum. So that's the way it is. Love 'em or leave 'um.  ::)
I thought I would remind that this is a 66 Shelby category thread and consequently the default would be talking about 66 14 inch tenspoke wheels.

Good point. Now they know about 15 inchers. You gotta' find the info when you can get it I suppose? ::)
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: hertz350 on December 30, 2020, 07:27:30 PM
Y9ou could always try Dyna Beads and skip the weights.  Go to http://www.innovativebalancing.com/
Title: Re: Shelby 10 spoke wheels balancing weights knocked off again - question
Post by: s2ms on December 30, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Caliper not in the photo but easy to tell there is tons of room, gotta be the adhesive...