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Title: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 01:44:12 AM
A car built the way most would no longer do in today's environment of retirement investing.

Very Different from what is usually dicussed here, but if you are a car guy, you have to respect the build and the guy's courage to take a valuable car in a direction he wanted.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Ford-Mustang-GT500-/303850571273?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

You are looking at a true 69 SHELBY GT500 4-Speed that I have owned since 1977.  It was bought and Drag Raced by Ault & James Speed Shop in Dayton, Ohio during 1969.  The car was retired from racing in 1970 and sat till 74 when it was returned to the street by a local Ford dealer and painted black for the first time.  I bought the GT500 in 1977 off of a Chevrolet used car lot after it was traded in on a new truck.
   The SHELBY was use for pleasure and car shows over the next 30 years.  By 2007 the car needed a repaint and redetailed.  I originally was planning on keeping the SHELBY mostly all stock.  The car only had 51,000 miles and No rust anywhere.  I had considered returning the SHELBY back to its original color of Black Jade, but couldn't do it after all the years of having it black.
     As I began to make plans for its restoration I decided I wanted to leave some signs that were still evident from its race history. Like the Rolled rear fender lips for one.  By 2015 when I was able to go full speed ahead with the project, Resto Mods were everywhere, the new SHELBY's were out. I Decided to make my 69 SHELBY a modern version with better looks,  handling, and proformnce than what was available in 69.
Let's face it the fit and finish of Shelby's in the 60's was terrible putting it mildly.  The goal was to make the doors, fenders, and hood gaps/fits like a modern SHELBY.
    To get handling and ride height I was looking for, I went with a Ride Tech front suspension, with Ride Tech adjustable shocks on the back along with a rear sway bar from 1970.
   To get the SHELBY to stop I went with Wilwood 6 piston up front and 4 piston in the rear.
   To make more power I took the numbers matching engine  to "Ohio" George Montgomery for upgrades.  They bored it to .020 over, and stroked it .25" to 4.25", along with adding Edelbrook heads, intake, and waterpump to reduce engine weight by over 150 lbs.   The battery was also relocated to the trunk for evan better balance front to back.
    The car was rewired using a modern wiring and fuses. All the wiring was moved out of the engine compartment to showcase the powerful 428 CJ (now 460 ci 505HP/575 Torque) while still using its original 735 Holley carb.
   The Ford 9" is now carrying 3.70 gears.
    The stunning appearance of this SHELBY comes from the beautiful glossy Black finish with factory black reflective strips that run true and straight. The lower stance along with 17X9" wheels wrapped in modern rubber gives this SHELBY an elegant and nasty look at the same time from any angle.  Anywhere you take this car it draws a crowd and wins awards. 
   All modifications of parts are bolt on and could be put back to original if ever wanted.   All original parts from the SHELBY go with the car if wanted.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 01:45:01 AM
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Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 557 on February 16, 2021, 01:53:44 AM
Those wheels............... ::)
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 01:59:01 AM
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Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 02:00:15 AM
Quote from: 557 on February 16, 2021, 01:53:44 AM
Those wheels............... ::)

Yeah, I am a 15" wheel guy, but I am looking past that for the moment. This is just something we won't see much of any more.

One thing (of many) that impressed me is how perfect the body is.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 02:14:44 AM
I remember when I went to the Mustang Round up in Bellevue Washington in the summer of '87.

There was a '69 Burgundy Boss 9 with a tunnel ram, two Holleys and headers. But most amazing of all was the car was set up for road rallying. Lowered with B2 style suspension upgrades. Rolled fender lips and huge race slicks on all four corners.

It was, and will always be the most insanely incredible Mustang I have ever laid eyes on.

I can imagine it is probably restored to showroom perfection now (still cool) but man, there was a time they were still cars to be driven in anger.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 67 GT350 on February 16, 2021, 09:58:15 AM
You have to respect the guy taking a valuable car in that direction.....?
Lets think, 69's? Many are priced plus or minus 100K that are very nice drivers, (Stephen's car for example). I turned down a restored grabber blue that was beautiful for 85K
This guy wants 215K? I am not sure what direction we are thinking, but I would say, it was the wrong direction.
In a real world comparison, its it like Andy of NY not using the Hospital ship that was in NYC for the recovering covid patients, instead forcing them into nursing homes, killing many compromised covid free elderly people, and blaming everyone but himself, was he looking to take many off Medicaid?
BIGtime JUST sAyIn.
I would not pay 215K for almost any year Shelby, they came down in price, although most don't like hearing that. (Put a huge reserve on it and start it at a buck, lets see what the real market value might be, it just might revel something that a few don't want to see)
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: prototypefan on February 16, 2021, 12:00:43 PM
George Huisman reimagined this body style as well

Doing the aluminum bits under the hood certainly helps with the handling

Dove makes a great all alloy engine but you'd give up the original bottom end

Tremec transmissions are wonderful......launch like a pro stock car and 2100 rpm at 70 mph.....I hope this has a Tremec
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 6972boss on February 16, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
I love this build. Nailed the stance. Nice to see the bones of the car are intact but he crossed into restomod tastefully. I would rock this.  I was interested when he first listed it at 189K. Not sure why it took a 25K jump in price. :o Not interested now. :-\ Baffles me, if it didn't sell at 189k why list it for more?? Chasing away even more prospective buyers.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 16, 2021, 12:48:29 PM
What is a resto mod? It still sports a factory chassis(unibody) with no mods I can see . Stock interior. Stock body. It is a modified Shelby Mustang to me and not a low to mid 6 figure resto mod I'm used to seeing. Changing out a suspension and better brakes and building up a stock engine is not a resto mod. Putting a full frame under it with late model suspension technology, a Coyote engine 6 speed IRS or a 4 link rear is more of a restomod along with tucked bumpers and flush door handles or none at all. I could buy a stock 69 and do the same up grades including paint and be in it for less than 1/2 his price. Just my 2 cents... Gary
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: FL SAAC on February 16, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Very interesting
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 03:14:30 PM
Restomod means something different to a lot of people.

I am a Day 2 guy, by my definition, this is Day 4. I too like it very much.

And it is a change of pace.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: mikeh on February 16, 2021, 06:37:01 PM
Love it!! And George Huisman's car.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: BGlover67 on February 17, 2021, 03:54:19 AM
Quote from: 6972boss on February 16, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
I love this build. Nailed the stance. Nice to see the bones of the car are intact but he crossed into restomod tastefully. I would rock this.  I was interested when he first listed it at 189K. Not sure why it took a 25K jump in price. :o Not interested now. :-\ Baffles me, if it didn't sell at 189k why list it for more?? Chasing away even more prospective buyers.

I'll bet the $25k jump might have something to do with the the prices obtained at Mecum Kissimmee 2021.  :o.  Michael, I agree the body work and stance is amazing (though I'd expect a nicer engine bay to match the rest of the build), but it's hard to imagine that he'll ever see a reasonable return on his investment.  Speaking of which, I wonder what the real cost to build was?  Or perhaps this is another case of someone trying to appease their spouse, and they're not really serious about selling.  "I swear babe, I have no idea why the Shelby isn't selling!"  ::)
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 17, 2021, 09:49:48 AM
Brian, I bet you are spot-on.

I would not think he could get his ask, but I have read "Restomods" are bringing top $ at auctions (at least BJ).

A sales technique with real estate out here is to raise the ask on an expensive parcel that is not moving to create a "sense of urgency".

I don't know if it works, but it is used enough I am guessing it may in some circumstances.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 17, 2021, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: mikeh on February 16, 2021, 06:37:01 PM
Love it!! And George Huisman's car.
out of curiosity why do you say that? Was it a car he built? The Ebay handle and location I don't think are Georges. Thanks.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: mikeh on February 17, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
Reply #7 mentioned Georges tastefully modified car, "re-spec'd"(his term), 69 GT-500 Gulfstream Aqua/white interior/4 speed, & I am a big fan of it.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 67 GT350 on February 17, 2021, 06:48:39 PM
I'll bet the $25k jump might have something to do with the the prices obtained at Mecum Kissimmee 2021

"I just saw the same car as the one I am selling go for $$$, my (Insert your car here) has to be worth that."

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Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 20, 2021, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: mikeh on February 17, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
Reply #7 mentioned Georges tastefully modified car, "re-spec'd"(his term), 69 GT-500 Gulfstream Aqua/white interior/4 speed, & I am a big fan of it.
I believe the aqua car you are referring to was done for a guy who I graduated from HS with. Chet C. It was brought to my attention that he got the car a few months after I saw George posting it. Beautiful car. T
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 20, 2021, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 2112 on February 16, 2021, 03:14:30 PM
Restomod means something different to a lot of people.

I am a Day 2 guy, by my definition, this is Day 4. I too like it very much.

And it is a change of pace.
Very true. I define restomod as new chassis (or things like subframes & IRS etc added) powered by a new late model electronic controlled drivetrain. There is nothing that isn't "bolt on" on that car. Even the original paint color. It would be very easy for someone to make this a day one car. His price reflects the simple fact that hiring all those people to do the mods for him runs the bill up. I'd love to see a whole row of day 2 cars at any show. There is no need to have any more than 1 "factory fresh" restoration at any show.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 2112 on February 20, 2021, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 20, 2021, 02:12:57 PM
I'd love to see a whole row of day 2 cars at any show.

Me Too
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: cbrown on February 20, 2021, 03:25:30 PM
Our shop was where most of the build was done on Georges 69 gt500. It turned out really good and we made all panels and gaps line up much better than factory specs. Custom made supsension was installed on car also. It was debuted and SEMA last year.. and displayed at MCCAN and won awards

chris
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 20, 2021, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on February 17, 2021, 06:48:39 PM
I'll bet the $25k jump might have something to do with the the prices obtained at Mecum Kissimmee 2021
We all know that prices are set by drunken millionaires at Barrett Jackson.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: 427heaven on February 20, 2021, 03:53:06 PM
Well that is a good feeling for many..... To say I am going home with that car period! Whats even more fun is when a couple of guys say that about the same car-  Whoa BABY look out. ;D
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 20, 2021, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: cbrown on February 20, 2021, 03:25:30 PM
Our shop was where most of the build was done on Georges 69 gt500. It turned out really good and we made all panels and gaps line up much better than factory specs. Custom made supsension was installed on car also. It was debuted and SEMA last year.. and displayed at MCCAN and won awards

chris
The aqua one in the pic I posted Chris? I know all too well on the 69 fit. We had to narrow the deck lid on my car only at the spoiler end so the end caps didn't overlap the quarters(all factory original). We re-cut all the fender to door gaps. I think my car fits really well now on the fiberglass gaps.
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: chris NOS on February 21, 2021, 06:23:18 AM
i would have done it in the drag racing period paint !
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: cbrown on February 21, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
Gary, Yes the one in the picture is the one we did..
chris
Title: Re: Super cool '69 GT500
Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 21, 2021, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: cbrown on February 21, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
Gary, Yes the one in the picture is the one we did..
chris
Thanks Chris. I was at my niece's wedding last fall and my bro-in-law's 2 brothers showed me pics of the car and told me Chet got it. I knew it looked familiar and saw it posted on Georges FB page when he delivered it to Chet a few months earlier. I still need to get with you still on a filter element but am waiting until I come back from Vacation. Gary