Gentlemen -
Is there a proper or "correct" hardware to attach the grill emblem on a 65 GT 350? Any pictures would be helpful also !
Thank you,
Dave
Check with Brant at VA Mustang. They list the 66 clips on their website. 65 uses the small push-on's without the other larger pieces.
https://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/66-GT-350-GRILL-EMBLEM-CLIP-SET-P1988.aspx
Dave, On my car 5S275, the grill emblem is held by small push on clips and round washers.
Texas Swede
thank you Charles and Bo,
dave
Bo, would love to see picture of the washers on your front emblem.
Thanks
Hi Martin,
Took a picture today but it didn't come out that good but if you increase the size
you can se it.
Texas Swede
I can tell you the Scott drake ones come with push on clips that are too large and don't work
Here is Texas Swede's image with some adjustment to hopefully make it easier to see the washers and push-on "speed clips"...
Perfect Bo and JD. Unknowing might attach horse to grill without the washers.....Guess how I know....
If you order the Scott Drake kit from Virginia Classic, it comes with 3 press on nuts, horse has 4 prongs ....
Were the original washers painted or coated in any manner?
Mine are cadmium planted as far as I can tell. As regards the clips, it has to be understood
that original emblems C4 marked has much thinner pins than the replacements C8 marked.
The one on my car is C4.
Texas Swede
Quote from: mygt350 on April 17, 2021, 10:46:38 AM
If you order the Scott Drake kit from Virginia Classic, it comes with 3 press on nuts, horse has 4 prongs ....
When used on the 66 grille only 3 of the pins (upper, and 2 side pins) are used. IIRC there are some interference issues with the bottom pin. For a while I used a C8 service replacement and had to cut the lower pin off since they are thicker as Bo mentions. Now using an original C4 emblem which fits without removing the lower pin but it's still close, right next to the grille bar...
Dave
The 3 brackets in the Virginia kit are not used on a 65 honeycomb grill. Just the flat retaining nuts. Kit has 3 small flat nuts and the small pin horse has 4 prongs.
Would like to get couple owners of real 65 GT350 to see if they can take look at the washers on the grille running horse and let me know what the washers are coated with and the outside diameter of the washers.
Thanks
I found the part number for the washers in the 1965 Shelby American parts book page 76
359566-S8B. S8 stands for Zink (dark silver)
Don't know if this is the correct one as I could not find anything in the AMK catalog.
Texas Swede
Quote from: texas swede on April 17, 2021, 02:18:47 PM
I found the part number for the washers in the 1965 Shelby American parts book page 76
359566-S8B. S8 stands for Zink (dark silver)
Don't know if this is the correct one as I could not find anything in the AMK catalog.
Texas Swede
That number decodes as #4 size, .125 ID , .500 OD , .047 thick ,Steel.
Thanks Bob,
Will try to measure the ones on my car.
Texas Swede
Don't dare to remove a washer because of the risk to break the mounting stud but a rough
estimate of the size seems to match Bob's measurements.
Texas Swede
Thanks Bob and Bo!!
This is what I have. NOS in the box. Box says c5zz but emblem is c8?
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on April 20, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
This is what I have. NOS in the box. Box says c5zz but emblem is c8?
Roy
those are just service replacements, you will find an assembly line C4 in a fomoco box, at least all the ones I have found NOS over the years.
Quote from: TA Coupe on April 20, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
This is what I have. NOS in the box. Box says c5zz but emblem is c8?
Roy
The main difference are the diameter of the pins. C8 marked emblem has fat pins and the C4 skinny. It was easy to break the skinny C4 emblems pins. I assume that is the reason for the change of pin diameter on the C8 emblem. Unlike other Mustangs the emblem used in the grill on a GT350 are easy to distinguish as replacement fat or skinny genuine given they are in full view seen from back side of the grill. At least easy to tell once you know the difference.
Many years ago (more than 20) I found the C4 emblem I have on my car at Carlisle for $20.
The guy I bought it from had two for sale but stupid as I am I only bought one. At the same swap I found two boxes of
Autolite spark plugs with the star on them. They were the only one left in a large box marked 1965. Bought both of them for
$50 each. Still have them today and have used one on my car.
Texas Swede
Don't want to get into the weeds here, but the earlier C4 emblems usually have much more detail in the horse, particularly in the head area.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on April 21, 2021, 12:10:08 AM
Don't want to get into the weeds here, but the earlier C4 emblems usually have much more detail in the horse, particularly in the head area.
+1 the eye indentition is very pronounced and the colors are a different tone also.
This is a picture of the C4 emblem on my car.
Texas Swede
not all have a washer on every pin. (the emblem was never removed)
Roman
Roman,
Thanks for the picture. It makes perfect sense to have washers on the two pins that are invisible from the front only.
It doesn't look good to see the washers from the front.
Texas Swede
Another question about the grill emblem,
Was there a variance on exactly where, on the grill, the emblem was placed.
Wonder if the installer at SA measured where to place it or if it was placed at random.
Texas Swede
The Tinnerman flat nut part number is 45052-S7.
Texas Swede
Quote from: texas swede on April 27, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
Another question about the grill emblem,
Was there a variance on exactly where, on the grill, the emblem was placed.
Wonder if the installer at SA measured where to place it or if it was placed at random.
Texas Swede
+1 - I'd love to know as well.