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Title: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on May 10, 2021, 05:52:15 PM
Recent postings of early '65's for sale show undersides of the hoods painted what appears to be satin/semi-gloss black.  Searching my "archives" of books, articles, etc. show them mostly white.  Is there any credibility to the black undersides for the porthole hoods?
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: J_Speegle on May 10, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
What time period are you identifying as "early"?
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on May 10, 2021, 07:24:24 PM
For the sake of discussion, the first 100 or so...Like the early style without the center re-inforcement and the later ones with it.  What caused my curiousity were the recent discussions about 077 and 110, both of which, as I recall, display black undersides.  (Currently, 110 doesn't have a correct porthole hood.)
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: gt350hr on May 11, 2021, 11:08:26 AM
      40+ years ago I owned the original hood for 5S110 ( the scoop was sawed off to allow carburetors to "poke" through) and it was white on the underside. I grafted a scoop back on it ( crooked unfortunately) and sold it to a guy with a coupe. I never told him the heritage. Long gone by now.
   Randy
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: Greg on May 11, 2021, 11:12:20 AM
5S109 is unrestored and white.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: CharlesTurner on May 11, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
Pics of 114, in '65 show white on the bottom. 

Be careful going by the SFM number as the finished dates were all over the place.  For instance, 114 was finished on 4/26/65, yet 163 was finished on 4/23/65.  Also, 159 was finished the same day as 114.

Stan, considering your car was finished in March, I'd say white bottom would be acceptable.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: gt350hr on May 11, 2021, 02:16:14 PM
+1 on that!
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: mygt350 on May 11, 2021, 03:42:52 PM
Original underside of hood on 5S228 was painted white. It had porthole with chicken wire screen.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: Bigfoot on May 11, 2021, 09:24:15 PM
I was looking at one of the first 100 cars the other day which has a very nice early hood and the underside is white.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: texas swede on May 12, 2021, 09:03:35 AM
Martin,
Did the original hood on #228 have the extra rib in the middle.
Do you have any picture?
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: texas swede on May 12, 2021, 10:48:18 AM
I looked at some old pictures I got from the previous owner of 5S277 and his pot hole hood had
the extra rib and was painted white. The car was bought by him in 1976 and restored in
1977.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: mygt350 on May 12, 2021, 11:14:23 AM
Bo
I think I have some really old photos of 5S228 with the original hood up. Have to look in my scrap book and see if I can find a photo.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: texas swede on May 12, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
Thanks Martin,
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: Szabo on May 14, 2021, 03:30:56 PM
Here is a Pic from the Peterson Archiv,
it shows the early (first 14ten) GT350 Production in
the Carter Avenue Building, befor moving to LAX

Hope it helps a little bit

Greets from Germany


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Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: CharlesTurner on May 14, 2021, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: Szabo on May 14, 2021, 03:30:56 PM
Here is a Pic from the Peterson Archiv,
it shows the early (first 14ten) GT350 Production in
the Carter Avenue Building, befor moving to LAX

Hope it helps a little bit

Greets from Germany

It's a good reference, but hard to know exactly in black/white photo if that is gray primer or white paint.  Regardless, we know that the white bottoms are something that was in practice after the move to LAX.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 14, 2021, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on May 14, 2021, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: Szabo on May 14, 2021, 03:30:56 PM
Here is a Pic from the Peterson Archiv,
it shows the early (first 14ten) GT350 Production in
the Carter Avenue Building, befor moving to LAX

Hope it helps a little bit

Greets from Germany

It's a good reference, but hard to know exactly in black/white photo if that is gray primer or white paint.  Regardless, we know that the white bottoms are something that was in practice after the move to LAX.
Most likely a primer prior to painting IMO because it is so flat in sheen. You can see a higher level of sheen in B/W photos of finished white bottom hoods.
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: chris NOS on May 15, 2021, 01:49:41 PM
i agree , and i don't think  a fresh-painted hood would be hold  on the ground like this ....
Title: Re: Early Hood's Undersides Painted White or Black?
Post by: davez on May 15, 2021, 02:37:41 PM
Also looks like there is writing in marker at each hinge area as well as passenger front corner.