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The Cars => 1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H => Topic started by: 6T6SHELBY on May 27, 2021, 01:58:06 PM

Title: Water pump questions
Post by: 6T6SHELBY on May 27, 2021, 01:58:06 PM
I own a later '66 GT350 that the water pump has gone bad in. I am a lot better at breaking things then fixing them so I have the following questions and thanks for not judging me :)!!!

1. What should the correct part number and where is it located. It is still on the car and I couldn't find one.
2. If it turns out to be correct should I have it rebuilt and by whom? (I am located in western NC)
3. If it is not correct where can I purchase a correct one.

Thanks in advance for all of your help!!!
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: JD on May 27, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
just helped a buddy with a late April '66 GT350 get a WP.

I think you want a FoMoCo in the rectangle, with the C6OE-A engineering #, note red arrows - there was a variation on this boss being tapped or not,  think either is OK.

HiPo would have the impeller with 6-vanes, IIRC - Others will know more...
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: Shawn on May 27, 2021, 02:33:50 PM
https://www.deadnutson.com/1966-shelby-gt350-water-pumps/

Here is a good source
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 27, 2021, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: JD on May 27, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
just helped a buddy with a late April '66 GT350 get a WP.

I think you want a FoMoCo in the rectangle, with the C6OE-A engineering #, note red arrows - there was a variation on this boss being tapped or not,  think either is OK.

HiPo would have the impeller with 6-vanes, IIRC - Others will know more...
Just wanted to give confirmation that it doesn't matter if the boss is tapped or not because it is not used in this application. A hypo 6 vane impeller with have 3 holes visible from the back side of the pump. A 8 vane regular Mustang impeller will have 4 holes visible from the back side.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: 6T6SHELBY on May 27, 2021, 03:14:47 PM
After further review the water pump on my car does not have the C60E-A part number or any visible part number for that matter. Any suggestions on where I can purchase one that is ready to go?

Again, thanks for the guidance.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 27, 2021, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: 6T6SHELBY on May 27, 2021, 03:14:47 PM
After further review the water pump on my car does not have the C60E-A part number or any visible part number for that matter. Any suggestions on where I can purchase one that is ready to go?

Again, thanks for the guidance.
Expect to pay around 350.00 or more for a rebuilt C6OE waterpump with the hipo cast iron 6 blade impeller. You now have a basis of what to expect when searching . Hopefully you will find one for less . Don't be surprised to find ones that are more. Hopefully the info will help to make a informed decision so that you don't miss a opportunity as those cores are few and far between.  Ebay ,Shelby parts and restorations,swap meets etc. are all places to search.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: 6s1640 on May 27, 2021, 08:41:15 PM
Hi 6T6Shelby,

Before you spend big money you might try your local auto parts store. Tell them you want a original cast iron Ford water pump rebuilt and you would like to inspect their inventory.  There's a remote chance you'll find a rebuilt water pump that you can use as a core to have rebuilt as a HiPo water pump.  It has been a while since I've tried this but in the past I have found original 6COE-A water pumps.  They are out there. And if you find one buy a lottery ticket at the same time.

Best of luck

Cory
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: s2ms on May 27, 2021, 09:24:36 PM
^^What he said.

Works for Cory but rarely for me. Every time I go into an auto parts store and ask to to look at their water pump inventory, they say another guy was just in last week and cleaned them out.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: JD on May 27, 2021, 11:02:56 PM
PM sent ;-)
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: oldcanuck on May 31, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Is the 1966 and 1967 C6OE-A water pump the same, other than paint ?
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: J_Speegle on May 31, 2021, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: oldcanuck on May 31, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
Is the 1966 and 1967 C6OE-A water pump the same, other than paint ?


Same water pump. Same paint color painted after it was bolted to the engine 
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: oldcanuck on June 01, 2021, 09:28:35 AM
Thank you.... I thought 1966 was black and 1967 was Ford blue......?
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: JD on June 01, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
If I've been paying attention, some of the '65's were black, maybe including some of the "carry-over" '66's?
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 01, 2021, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: JD on June 01, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
If I've been paying attention, some of the '65's were black, maybe including some of the "carry-over" '66's?
Ford was supposed to change over to blue in August of 1965. The carryover 66 cars (very late 65 production cars so SA could get a jump on 66 production) typically had black painted blocks. I have only read and heard of anecdotal evidence reports of some blue painted engines on the carry over 66's. 
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: csxsfm on June 01, 2021, 11:46:04 AM
Captain Obvious says 6S290 was black cast iron.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: JD on June 01, 2021, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 01, 2021, 11:08:21 AM
Ford was supposed to change over to blue in August of 1966. The carryover 66 cars (very late 65 production cars so SA could get a jump on 66 production) typically had black painted blocks. I have only read and heard of anecdotal evidence reports of some blue painted engines on the carry over 66's. 

Bob, August of '66 or '65 (typo)?
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 01, 2021, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: JD on June 01, 2021, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 01, 2021, 11:08:21 AM
Ford was supposed to change over to blue in August of 1966. The carryover 66 cars (very late 65 production cars so SA could get a jump on 66 production) typically had black painted blocks. I have only read and heard of anecdotal evidence reports of some blue painted engines on the carry over 66's. 

Bob, August of '66 or '65 (typo)?
Fixed the typo . Thank you.
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: J_Speegle on June 01, 2021, 01:57:27 PM
 
Quote from: oldcanuck on June 01, 2021, 09:28:35 AM
Thank you.... I thought 1966 was black and 1967 was Ford blue......?

Correction - I had forgotten to consider the small number of carry over cars that would have had the cast iron pumps like the later cars. Also reverting back to the base Mustang in the thought process for a moment
Title: Re: Water pump questions
Post by: 6T6SHELBY on June 01, 2021, 02:09:00 PM
I just wanted to thank everyone for their help and messages.  I've got a water pump on the way!!!