Here is yet another example of why tags on clones/fakes/tributes is a bad idea...
If you're going to show up at a car show in New York with stolen tags on your Eleanor, you might be getting a visit from the police very soon. Shame on the New York state DMV for being so stupid.
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard, "I would never try to pass it off as original"
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The real # 1842, before being stolen...and no its not he same car.
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if the car is reported stolen how it could be registered ? In USA you don't have a federal offices that every states are connected to ? i can steal a car in California and Registered in NY ?
Quote from: chris NOS on June 14, 2021, 07:42:55 AM
if the car is reported stolen how it could be registered ? In USA you don't have a federal offices that every states are connected to ? i can steal a car in California and Registered in NY ?
Most likely the car is registered with it's original VIN, and the stolen shelby vin tag was bought off craigslist along with other stolen bits and pieces. Or, perhaps not, yet the full story has yet to be told by those who took the pictures.
So, is this car a 67 with a 68 tag on it?
I know first hand that New York State does not care about any car that is 2000 and older. ( I will stop there)
NYS does not even issue a title for anything older than a 1973 vehicle.
Some time ago, my friend had (I have no idea how he had this), and bucky tag for a 70 Boss 302. He tried several times to get it to the right owner via the Boss 302 registry. They would not help him in any shape of form to see it got to the correct owner. He simply gave up trying. He may have even just tossed it because of that.
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 13, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
............. you might be getting a visit from the police very soon. Shame on the New York state DMV for being so stupid.
In the first instance, it often amazes me the attention that this issue might garner from the police, versus say chasing some real criminals (that is assuming that the owner isn't trying to market this fraudulently :o ); "safe-work" I think is how one would label it. ::)
And in the case of the DMV, what do you expect from some typical civil-service employees where there is no recourse for one's ineptitude, or just plain lazy, I don't give a syte, I get paid the same, don't do their job attitudes! >:(
Scott.
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That NY license plate ( SHELBY67 ) is registered with that 1968 VIN 8T02S149549
Quote from: KR500 on June 14, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
That NY license plate ( SHELBY67 ) is registered with that 1968 VIN 8T02S149549
:o :o :o that sounds like a potential nightmare. I thought all cars were in a national data base if stolen.
Quote from: KR500 on June 14, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
That NY license plate ( SHELBY67 ) is registered with that 1968 VIN 8T02S149549
"Forget a'bout it"
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on June 14, 2021, 11:21:39 AM
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The local PD will go with the vehicles vin # which probably is what this person is using on the registration and title
That original tag attached to the inside fender will be considered a novelty item.
As someone else stated, it's an older vehicle, not enough knowledge, does it really matter (to them), why open up a can of worms, got other things to do.....
In my opinion, its only a "novelty" until someone shows up with your VIN.
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Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 14, 2021, 12:20:26 PM
Quote from: KR500 on June 14, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
That NY license plate ( SHELBY67 ) is registered with that 1968 VIN 8T02S149549
:o :o :o that sounds like a potential nightmare. I thought all cars were in a national data base if stolen.
The answer may be that the stolen car vs this registered car not showing up in a data base is perhaps the stolen car is listed with the complete Ford/Shelby VIN ( Ford VIN + 01842 ) not just the Ford VIN alone like this one.
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 13, 2021, 03:18:32 PM
I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard, "I would never try to pass it off as original"
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This tag considered valuable by us, is considered a profiterole or not valid as a v.i.n. to any PD
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 14, 2021, 12:56:10 PM
In my opinion, its only a "novelty" until someone shows up with your VIN.
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Now this v.i.n. tag from an alleged stolen possibly reattached to another vehicle or maybe the same alleged stolen vehicle brought out years later, will definetly win you a one way trip to the big house
What a mess. It sounds like the black car has more legitimacy to have the stolen vin tags on it than the car it was stolen from. At least from a title perspective.
I'm not sure what year the white shelby was stolen, but if it was a long time ago, it is probably too late to do much about it. That is, unless, you have a good friend in law enforcement that could pay a visit to the current vehicle owner and put a scare in them. Or possibly hire a repo company to take possession of the black car due to it wearing stolen, original vin tags.
I think some are being way too casual about this example. Isn't it obvious what the intent is? Both the car and perpetrator need to be crushed!
Quote from: 68blk500c on June 14, 2021, 02:08:21 PM
I think some are being way too casual about this example. Isn't it obvious what the intent is? Both the car and perpetrator need to be crushed!
+1
What state plates are on that car?
Quote from: 68blk500c on June 14, 2021, 02:08:21 PM
I think some are being way too casual about this example. Isn't it obvious what the intent is? Both the car and perpetrator need to be crushed!
+2
Quote from: 68blk500c on June 14, 2021, 02:08:21 PM
I think some are being way too casual about this example. Isn't it obvious what the intent is? Both the car and perpetrator need to be crushed!
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Whoever had the original car stolen from them needs to go claim this one. I've seen where cars stolen 20 years ago were found and returned to the original owner. He may have to pay back the insurance. I wonder if the stolen 68 tag is covering the VIN of a stolen 67?
I suppose it could be a Dynacorn....
Any idea where those pictures were taken? And when?
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on June 14, 2021, 04:06:48 PM
Any idea where those pictures were taken? And when?
Whom ever took the picture it shows what i believe to be a NY state tag
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 14, 2021, 03:39:41 PM
Whoever had the original car stolen from them needs to go claim this one. I've seen where cars stolen 20 years ago were found and returned to the original owner. He may have to pay back the insurance. I wonder if the stolen 68 tag is covering the VIN of a stolen 67?
Depending on state laws, prosecution of the persons who stole the vehicle may be barred after so many years. However, the lawful owner of the vehicle still owns the alleged stolen vehicle.
Whether the person that currently holds title is the thief or not, does not own the vehicle regardless of how much time has passed.
Possibly at the time of theft the owner had no insurance or possibly the insurance paid it off. So either it goes back to the original owner or the insurance company.
What the person who knows about this vehicle should do , if you know where the vehicle is and have proofs that at one point it was reported missing or stolen, is to contact the police where the vehicle is and ask the police to recover or look into this situation.
It is a NY plate. I'm just wondering if it was taken in NY and if so , where in NY.
The photos were taken yesterday in Massapequa, NY
The people that took the photographs are fully aware of what is going on and have contacted the original owner and law enforcement.
I do not know what the current owner knows or what his involvement is. His name is also known, as it was clearly written on the car show registration.
I am not accusing him of anything, but hopefully there is some proper follow up.
I would have probably been at that show if I didn't get stuck working. If it shows up at another local show, I will look at it.
What floors me from the get-go is seeing a car of this stature that has sit in the summer heat and winter frozen ground for years until the "freeze and thaw" has the center of the wheels level with the ground :o
Shelby's have been thrusted into the epitome of the musclecar market since the late 80's/early 90's and since have hit the stratosphere.
So to see this 68 Shelby up to it's spindles in dirt is #@%& !!
This 68 should have had someone rescue it years ago to take it away from this rediculous intention.
I don't have my registry handy. Is that the car that was stolen out of Freeport L.I. that was sitting in a front yard behind a chain link fence years ago?
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 14, 2021, 06:31:56 PM
What floors me from the get-go is seeing a car of this stature that has sit in the summer heat and winter frozen ground for years until the "freeze and thaw" has the center of the wheels level with the ground :o
Shelby's have been thrusted into the epitome of the musclecar market since the late 80's/early 90's and since have hit the stratosphere.
So to see this 68 Shelby up to it's spindles in dirt is #@%& !!
This 68 should have had someone rescue it years ago to take it away from this rediculous intention.
Don't get upset it's a mustang in its natural habitat, out to pasture...
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on June 14, 2021, 06:03:41 PM
I would have probably been at that show if I didn't get stuck working. If it shows up at another local show, I will look at it.
The guy should be stripping the car of all the added parts before the cops come and he loses everything if it is the 68. If not the tags should be off that car "in a New York minute". Gary
I wonder if it has a signed glovebox?
i m sure the owner knows nothing about it , because if he knew any forgery on his car he would not open the hood in public ! i guess he bought it not knowing nothing , just he wanted a shiny Eléonore !
I think that car is on Long Island, it seems that that plate is a popular one, my friend has the same plate but a different year number. There is s similar town/city name near Rochester which is Upstate.
I checked my registry. The original car was stolen in Baldwin New York. Not far from Massapequa. I'm willing to bet that car or some pieces of it are still around here someplace. Obviously the tag is! My friend used to see that car occasionally when he would drive around Baldwin. It's sat for years in the same place. He remembers it had headers on it that were rotted off the car and laying on the ground practically. The guy who owned it never wanted to sell it. That part of Baldwin that it was in would get flooded from time to time and that car was definitely up to its floor pans if not higher in seawater several times.
i bought my 1968 car from an elderly original owner #02090 who had the car at a shop for repairs and then had to sue and the get the police involved to get it back. They were hoping he would pass while in their possession. Sad. Anyway get what is missing from the car? They stole the Shelby VIN tag and the air cleaner. He never noticed of course.....
Quote from: hurlbird on June 19, 2021, 05:59:27 PM
i bought my 1968 car from an elderly original owner #02090 who had the car at a shop for repairs and then had to sue and the get the police involved to get it back. They were hoping he would pass while in their possession. Sad. Anyway get what is missing from the car? They stole the Shelby VIN tag and the air cleaner. He never noticed of course.....
When I bought my 69 SCJ Mach1 off of Chobrask8's ex wife she told me while the car was in one shop the 8 track got stolen from it. When she had it at Shelby American in Vegas getting some work done someone stole the original trunk mat out of it. That story came out of the fact no trunk mat and a 20 dollar cheapo mat was still in the bag in the trunk. I told her what I felt an original trunk mat was worth VS a 20 dollar cheapo one. Too many stories of parts disappearing on resto projects or bogus work billed and such, shops closing with cars in them and why those who have great shops-some here on the forum- are worth the peace and mind using to have work done.
Quote from: 6R07mi on June 14, 2021, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: KR500 on June 14, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
That NY license plate ( SHELBY67 ) is registered with that 1968 VIN 8T02S149549
"Forget a'bout it"
Actually it's "fugget 'abott it" 😉
Truly frightening scenario. I love the "I'd never pass it off..." rationale. All that means is the next guy will. 😡
This is still rolling ?
Thought by now they would have had a forfeiture or confiscation, oh well
It's funny, (well not really) I posted here on the forum earlier this year (end of March 2021) I was looking and requested help to identify a 68 GT350/500 I stumbled across through a friend here in northern New York.
It makes me wonder about the car currently being discussed here. I've determined the car I've been led to back in March in my mind had been stolen I truly believe.
I'll see if I can or someone can reference my old post. It's just too coincidental to me... just say'in.
Cheers,
~Earl J
I'm sure "Mongo knows" about this one ;)
yes "Mongo" knows!