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Title: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: aboss4tg on June 18, 2021, 05:04:31 PM
  I have my Shelby at Orlando Mustang for a complete restoration and we are getting to the final details. A question came up on the correct style shocks and I have some originals but they are tired. Orlando Mustang has a set of front and rear shock made by a Company in the 90"s called Blackjack Restorations. They have most of the correct contour to the shock and also has the Autolite stamping and C7ZF part numbers. They look really nice and new in appearance. I'm aware of the C7 part number is to early but the style is very close.
  I can restore the originals and install for shows but could these be an option for a Concours Trailered 69 Shelby? 
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 05:13:34 PM
You can put any shocks you like on your car

C7 shocks would not be correct for a 1969 Shelby and (rear) shocks are not easy to swap out.

I dont comment on what organizations like MCA should do, thats their call.

I follow a simple rule, if the part you are using does not look like the original part, expect to take a deduction. Personally, I wouldn't knowingly pay for an incorrect part. There are currently people who make "reproductions" of original 1969 Shelby shocks.

Its all about being historically correct. 

Is your car a big or small suspension car?

Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: aboss4tg on June 18, 2021, 05:29:04 PM
My car is the big suspension car.

I want to use what is correct and if you have the information on what Company that makes the reproductions that would be great.

Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
Can you share your 1969 VIN? ...there are also differences in big suspension shocks based on transmission.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: aboss4tg on June 18, 2021, 05:50:31 PM
Actually a Hertz car, 481891
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 05:56:47 PM
Thank you.

Here is a guide, if you go the route of reproductions this should help.

http://www.thecoralsnake.com/69suspension

Maybe someone knows the ID number of the GT350 rears?

I dont want to give you the wrong info
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: J_Speegle on June 18, 2021, 06:32:35 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 05:56:47 PM
Maybe someone knows the ID number of the GT350 rears?

Believe it was C9ZX 18080 C. That is at least what a number of white rears I have pictures of show

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/15/6-220621151144-15632588.jpeg)


Also what we used on 481897 when I did it- 69 Hertz big suspension small tire car Finished at Ford on 4/2/69
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 18, 2021, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: aboss4tg on June 18, 2021, 05:04:31 PM
  I have my Shelby at Orlando Mustang for a complete restoration and we are getting to the final details. A question came up on the correct style shocks and I have some originals but they are tired. Orlando Mustang has a set of front and rear shock made by a Company in the 90"s called Blackjack Restorations. They have most of the correct contour to the shock and also has the Autolite stamping and C7ZF part numbers. They look really nice and new in appearance. I'm aware of the C7 part number is to early but the style is very close.
  I can restore the originals and install for shows but could these be an option for a Concours Trailered 69 Shelby?
There was something about the blackjack shocks that was different but I can't recall what it was because it has been a long time since they were available. I would have to see a picture of them to refresh my memory. The Z7 adjustable shocks were used on small suspension 69 GT350's . The white painted C9ZX-C would be correct for the big suspension 69/70 GT350 as Jeff mentioned.. Dan Patch is the one making the reproduction 69 Shelby shocks. You can find him on ebay. He sells look alike adjustable and a little less priced non adjustable versions that are marked appropriately for concours venues. Dan has a long wait list. I had a friend check on his shocks that he had bought from Dan back in January and I got a message today that they were still another 4 to 6 weeks out from being done.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 07:01:07 PM
The ID number for the shocks Mr Gaines mentioned (C7) was "Z7ZD-A"
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 18, 2021, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 18, 2021, 07:01:07 PM
The ID number for the shocks Mr Gaines mentioned (C7) was "Z7ZD-A"
woops . Thanks for the catch.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: SCJSTU on June 18, 2021, 07:56:16 PM
Bob is this Dan Patch?
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 18, 2021, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on June 18, 2021, 07:56:16 PM
Bob is this Don Patch?
Yes . He is about 10 miles from me.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Just talked to Dan and ordered a set for my car......he is about 8 months out on making sets FYI

Thanks for the info guys and Coralsnake great info on your website
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 19, 2021, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Just talked to Dan and ordered a set for my car......he is about 8 months out on making sets FYI

Thanks for the info guys and Coralsnake great info on your website
How much for the set of four and is that for the adjustable or ones he sells that are not adjustable.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 19, 2021, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Just talked to Dan and ordered a set for my car......he is about 8 months out on making sets FYI

Thanks for the info guys and Coralsnake great info on your website
How much for the set of four and is that for the adjustable or ones he sells that are not adjustable.

$1550 for non adjust......add 200 bucks for adjustable....
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 22, 2021, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 19, 2021, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Just talked to Dan and ordered a set for my car......he is about 8 months out on making sets FYI

Thanks for the info guys and Coralsnake great info on your website
How much for the set of four and is that for the adjustable or ones he sells that are not adjustable.
So please educate me more on these. For a May big suspension GT350 what color should my shocks be? I thought white.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 22, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 22, 2021, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 19, 2021, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on June 19, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Just talked to Dan and ordered a set for my car......he is about 8 months out on making sets FYI

Thanks for the info guys and Coralsnake great info on your website
How much for the set of four and is that for the adjustable or ones he sells that are not adjustable.
So please educate me more on these. For a May big suspension GT350 what color should my shocks be? I thought white.
They a C9ZX marked and are white from the factory on a May built car.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: J_Speegle on June 22, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 22, 2021, 10:38:42 AM
So please educate me more on these. For a May big suspension GT350 what color should my shocks be? I thought white.

Might want to reread reply #6 ;)
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 22, 2021, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on June 22, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 22, 2021, 10:38:42 AM
So please educate me more on these. For a May big suspension GT350 what color should my shocks be? I thought white.

Might want to reread reply #6 ;)
Thanks Jeff. That pic was big enough also of yours to see . I was looking at the auction pic from Stu and no white shocks in  the ad nor does he mention white. I have the adjustable white Gabriel on my car now with the Shelby decals.
Title: Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 shocks
Post by: cob428 on June 22, 2021, 05:47:08 PM
He just did a complete set for me and he did a fantastic job.