Guys,
When I go actually physically view the car, want to leave a deposit.
Sure it will get away if not.
Been stored inside, last drove about 20 years ago.
Climate control,garage never hit, never rusted, partial repaint, Mango. black int, column shift, shaker.
Service block from dlr when almost new. Bum deal, probably 20% disc
I have not seen the car yet, but know the DR quite well.
No idea what to tell him on price, ?
I would say; nice driver if polished up, good enough for parades.
Interior the same.
Dr was not a gear head, he drove it while in Medical school and as time went, just left in his climate controlled garage.
Not sure what to bounce off of him?
Worst case $ , best case $ ?
John
So, I'm not you SME here for Hemi's... Sounds like he has an 'asking price' already? If yes, how grounded is that? No need to disclose, am sure you've done your homework. There are plenty of price guides around. Should be a good color. What's the reason for the partial repaint, do you know? What climate was in DD in? If not running for 20 years, could cost you 5-20K to get it safely driving again. Off the cuff, I'm thinking: Belts/hoses/brakes/lines/tank/service/fluids/bearings/tires/anti-freeze/pull the pan & valve covers/gaskets/services parts/ensure the motor is not seized or has any damage to effect start-up/battery/filters/etc. Then, with so much original paint, a nice 1 or 2K exterior detail. Interior should not need much, but your nose will tell you once you open the door. Hopefully, wiring is all good, not all cut under the dash or mouse/rat eaten. Like any project, it can quickly go from what you think is reasonable to geometrically out of control. Do you suffer from OCD? I do, a simple couple of items on 1 car turned into a 13 month complete restoration. Basically, an upside down gold-mine for me. What are your plans? Hopefully, you have waaaay more restraint than me. If you can buy it at a fair price, drive it, have fun, not spend too much, then may be a fair deal. Oh, if you want all date coded stuff vs. nice re-pop parts, that too will have an impact. I am sure I am missing a bunch... Does it have all OEM glass? Without more detail, maybe 150-200?
A very nice driver (real R code not a clone) with an auto and a non matching block is around 140+ today, Cuda's have shot back up in value over the past few months. Just make sure the cowl and radiator support number match the vin sequential number.
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 24, 2021, 11:34:37 AM
Dr was not a gear head, he drove it while in Medical school and as time went, just left in his climate controlled garage.
Original owner? Did he keep paperwork? All value adders.
I hope his expectations are not based on an afternoon of watching Barrett Jackson.
What about options on fender tag needs decoded as all hemi cudas are shakers and column shift hurts value and can be split bench or buckets depending on how ordered. Go Man Go is a good color and check rear super trac pac 4;10 dana or 9 3/4 regular rear probly since its an auto.
I pretty much agree with what was said above.
The DR. is not a gear head, used as DD back in Med school.
I doubt mice and critters have gotten to it, we shall see though.
If it will fluff up, maybe 175K after services you mentioned PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy
I expect to see a nice clean old hemi cuda
Thanks guys, if anyone is in the market, let me know and I will let you know,
It will place it in the for sale section with price.>>> herein.
After thought;
Safe side, after some more thought, 125K up to the 175 if she will clean up nicely and have toys at upper end.
Road lamps , tach dash, split bench, road wheels, dlx interior package etc >>> will also help determine.
Post photos as soon as you can! We love photos ;)
If I can help please let me know, I am a Mopar enthusiast as well. I have owned 6-Pack cars, both E and B body. A fender tag photo would be very helpful in estimating a value. As pointed out above a Hemi car would come with the Shaker (N96). The column shift does hurt the value. It would be nice to know if it had a Dana 60 but I am leaning toward a 8 3/4" rear axle.
I was at a show on Monday. An AAR Cuda came in. Brown. Because of the being an AAR I was able to get by the brown then I saw the column shift. Turned me off. Just like column shifts on Camaros. I walked away. I see why the column shifts hurt the value. unless a really good price I think twice.
It would seem that only Chrysler could possibly conceive of offering such strange contradictory factory build options? An automatic column shift with a Hemi and hood scoop?
What happened to the push buttons on the dash board? My HS Driver's Ed, a Ply Mouth Fury, car had those. You could really slam those buttons but the girls needed to be careful they didn't break their "nails".
What about a roll bar with a cigar holder?
Guys,
yep, maybe a strange build order?
Will hopefully get a look this Saturday.
I think>>>> dana.
Truly doubt a roll bar and cigar holder, but stranger s.... >>> has occurred>>
Quote from: shelbydoug on August 25, 2021, 08:00:59 AM
It would seem that only Chrysler could possibly conceive of offering such strange contradictory factory build options? An automatic column shift with a Hemi and hood scoop?
What happened to the push buttons on the dash board? My HS Driver's Ed, a Ply Mouth Fury, car had those. You could really slam those buttons but the girls needed to be careful they didn't break their "nails".
What about a roll bar with a cigar holder?
in my teen years my neighbor had a silver 69 SS 396 Camaro with a column shift.
Nobody yet..?? Just for the record, if it is a true EK2 car, Go Mango is the Dodge color. The Plymouth version is Vitamin C. ;)
I agree with everyone's replies. There were approximately 700 Hemicudas built in 1970, and while not exciting today the column-shift configuration was fairly common. As mentioned, the car's options can have a great impact on value, and the Fender Tag will show much (but not all) of this information. Does the car have a Buildsheet (aka Broadcast Sheet)? Or has anyone ever looked? As with a lot of things in this hobby Fender Tags have been faked for years, so additional paperwork (ideally a buildsheet) is really desirable. Plus, the buildsheet (or order form, or window sticker) shows features that were not included on the Fender Tag, since the tag was only used to show options that required body-modifications. If the owner hasn't looked the most likely locations for finding a buildsheet are under the back or bottom springs of the front and/or rear seats, and/or wedged up behind the glovebox. Hemicudas were all built at the Hamtramck plant, who generally left these buildsheets in these areas during assembly, so it is common for Hemicudas to have this document if the original interior is still intact and rodent-free. So you may find several duplicate copies, or may find none, or may even find one for a car that was next in line in production that just happened to use the same type of seats, luck of the draw. All 4-speed Hemicudas got Dana60 rearends, but Autos came standard with the 3.23:1 open rear 8-3/4, with other ratios or the Dana60 available as optional axle packages. Service Replacement Warranty blocks will have a tag riveted to the lower side of the block, and will have a blank (non-stamped) VIN pad just above the oilpan, facing the pass-side wheel. If the block is indeed a Service Replacement it will have this tag, otherwise it may be a more common over-the-counter unstamped warranty block. The Auto trans will also have a VIN pad on the passenger side. For E-bodies only the last 8 digits of the VIN will be stamped on these pads. As mentioned above, these last 8 digits will also be stamped into the backside of the Radiator support (facing the radiator, to the right of the radiator cap) and on the top of the cowl on the driver's side. There will also be a full VIN# on the dash VIN tag and on the driver's side door decal. Here's a site with some great information and examples: https://www.e-bodies.org/buying-your-first-e-body/vin-numbers/
Go-Mango is indeed a cool color, and was extra cost, but the column-shift and non-original motor do hurt, along with a Bench Seat if so equipped. If the car does not have a buildsheet or documentation other than the fender tag that will also hurt. If the car has a lot of options that will help, but only if it has documentation to support those options. Sounds like the body is in good shape, but understandably condition and originality also helps or hurts. I love these cars, and by description it sounds like this is an intact car that needs some TLC. However, with the column-shift and non-original motor I think this car will be at the lower end of the $125K-$175K scale, and the only way it could move up higher is if it had great docs and/or great original condition.
As mentioned, pictures of the car, and especially of the Fender Tag and any other documentation, will really help. Good Luck, and keep us posted!
- Wade
Quote from: Cudino on August 25, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
I agree with everyone's replies. There were approximately 700 Hemicudas built in 1970, and while not exciting today the column-shift configuration was fairly common. As mentioned, the car's options can have a great impact on value, and the Fender Tag will show much (but not all) of this information. Does the car have a Buildsheet (aka Broadcast Sheet)? Or has anyone ever looked? As with a lot of things in this hobby Fender Tags have been faked for years, so additional paperwork (ideally a buildsheet) is really desirable. Plus, the buildsheet (or order form, or window sticker) shows features that were not included on the Fender Tag, since the tag was only used to show options that required body-modifications. If the owner hasn't looked the most likely locations for finding a buildsheet are under the back or bottom springs of the front and/or rear seats, and/or wedged up behind the glovebox. Hemicudas were all built at the Hamtramck plant, who generally left these buildsheets in these areas during assembly, so it is common for Hemicudas to have this document if the original interior is still intact and rodent-free. So you may find several duplicate copies, or may find none, or may even find one for a car that was next in line in production that just happened to use the same type of seats, luck of the draw. All 4-speed Hemicudas got Dana60 rearends, but Autos came standard with the 3.23:1 open rear 8-3/4, with other ratios or the Dana60 available as optional axle packages. Service Replacement Warranty blocks will have a tag riveted to the lower side of the block, and will have a blank (non-stamped) VIN pad just above the oilpan, facing the pass-side wheel. If the block is indeed a Service Replacement it will have this tag, otherwise it may be a more common over-the-counter unstamped warranty block. The Auto trans will also have a VIN pad on the passenger side. For E-bodies only the last 8 digits of the VIN will be stamped on these pads. As mentioned above, these last 8 digits will also be stamped into the backside of the Radiator support (facing the radiator, to the right of the radiator cap) and on the top of the cowl on the driver's side. There will also be a full VIN# on the dash VIN tag and on the driver's side door decal. Here's a site with some great information and examples: https://www.e-bodies.org/buying-your-first-e-body/vin-numbers/
Go-Mango is indeed a cool color, and was extra cost, but the column-shift and non-original motor do hurt, along with a Bench Seat if so equipped. If the car does not have a buildsheet or documentation other than the fender tag that will also hurt. If the car has a lot of options that will help, but only if it has documentation to support those options. Sounds like the body is in good shape, but understandably condition and originality also helps or hurts. I love these cars, and by description it sounds like this is an intact car that needs some TLC. However, with the column-shift and non-original motor I think this car will be at the lower end of the $125K-$175K scale, and the only way it could move up higher is if it had great docs and/or great original condition.
As mentioned, pictures of the car, and especially of the Fender Tag and any other documentation, will really help. Good Luck, and keep us posted!
- Wade
Thanks for the link on numbers. I love Graveyard Carz because I have learned so much about that era of Mopars and I love those cars. I once had a plum Crazy 71 RT/SE V-code auto 391 8 3/4 car. Black vinyl top/interior Challenger. How rare was that? My friend is looking for a 440 4 speed or auto/air 68-70 Charger if you know of any. He has the money for the right car. Gary
Hi Gary,
'71 V-code Challengers are very rare. Chrysler only produced big-block E-bodies (Challengers and Cudas) for 2 years, 70-71. At 246 US shipments in total (127 4-speeds, 119 Autos) your 440-6pak "V-code" Challenger R/T was very rare, especially compared to 1970 production totalling nearly 2000 (1640 R/T and 296 RT/SE V-codes). They didn't actually make an RT/SE model in 1971, that was a 1970-only offering, but for 1971 they did carry over the "Formal Roof" option that essentially made a '71 R/T into an RT/SE. This is likely what you had, or perhaps you meant you had a '70 model instead of a '71. Anyway, only 105 of the all the 1971 Challenger R/Ts built were also ordered with the Formal Roof option, about 1%, so finding one of those 119 1971 440-6 Challenger R/T Autos that also got the Formal Roof Option would be pretty rare. And similarly, instead of a '71 if your car was actually a '70 RT/SE V-code, of the 296 built for US only 161 were Autos. Either way it was very unique, sounds cool.
E-Body Cudas and Challengers are hot right now, especially 70-71s, and so are 68-70 Chargers. These cars have always been in demand, and now is no different. I wish I knew a good Charger for sale, I don't, but in particular if your friend is looking for an original car (as opposed to a clone or customized car) you can PM me and I'll forward any info I hear.
- Wade
Had a customer bring in one ( 71 Challenger 440-6, A/T, triple black ) to restore about 30 years ago. I went over it and gave him a list of parts that were needed to do the restoration. Started to collect parts then he sold it. I still have a NOS RH door skin for it.
Rodney
Quote from: Cudino on August 26, 2021, 04:22:43 PM
Hi Gary,
'71 V-code Challengers are very rare. Chrysler only produced big-block E-bodies (Challengers and Cudas) for 2 years, 70-71. At 246 US shipments in total (127 4-speeds, 119 Autos) your 440-6pak "V-code" Challenger R/T was very rare, especially compared to 1970 production totalling nearly 2000 (1640 R/T and 296 RT/SE V-codes). They didn't actually make an RT/SE model in 1971, that was a 1970-only offering, but for 1971 they did carry over the "Formal Roof" option that essentially made a '71 R/T into an RT/SE. This is likely what you had, or perhaps you meant you had a '70 model instead of a '71. Anyway, only 105 of the all the 1971 Challenger R/Ts built were also ordered with the Formal Roof option, about 1%, so finding one of those 119 1971 440-6 Challenger R/T Autos that also got the Formal Roof Option would be pretty rare. And similarly, instead of a '71 if your car was actually a '70 RT/SE V-code, of the 296 built for US only 161 were Autos. Either way it was very unique, sounds cool.
E-Body Cudas and Challengers are hot right now, especially 70-71s, and so are 68-70 Chargers. These cars have always been in demand, and now is no different. I wish I knew a good Charger for sale, I don't, but in particular if your friend is looking for an original car (as opposed to a clone or customized car) you can PM me and I'll forward any info I hear.
- Wade
Thanks for the info. Car had an overhead console and V roof and that is why we called an "SE" back in the day. Definitely a 71. Original paint and primer on some of it. Had the standard R/T hood with 440 six pack emblems on it. Road wheels. Side scoops. R/T stripes. Came with a T/A hood also . I traded a spare deck lid to a 71 HEMI Challenger owner for a Gull Wing 71 Spoiler(very rare back in 1980). A good friend years later bought a 1 owner 30K mile plum crazy original paint 71 HEMI Challenger 4 speed survivor. I told him if he didn't buy it I would. Pic below. The brown HEMI 70 Cuda(original paint southern car) has been sitting since the early 80s when the guy I know bought it. So Wade, I know about the back window not being smaller in 1971 but no S/E designation either? We can take this off line in messages but posted to show the pics which we can't do in a PM. Gary
Hoping to get in and get a look this Saturday as mentioned.
The Dr's son has stepped into the picture, not sure what effect, if any, tho is going to have.
My 69 Hemi 4 speed Dodge Daytona I once had >> it too had a weird back window as I recall.
Seems oddities have become involved, which is cool.
I always called that brown color, rootbeer ?
John
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 27, 2021, 09:00:57 AM
Hoping to get in and get a look this Saturday as mentioned.
The Dr's son has stepped into the picture, not sure what effect, if any, tho is going to have.
My 69 Hemi 4 speed Dodge Daytona I once had >> it too had a weird back window as I recall.
Seems oddities have become involved, which is cool.
I always called that brown color, rootbeer ?
John
Did you know those who build Daytona Replicas(Charger 500s) use a Chevy Vega rear hatch with glass as the rear window setup on Daytonas? Met a 68 Shelby owner who had a clone.
shelbymann1970,
I did not know that, the window must be a pretty good match for the opening, angles etc.
For Mopar fans, was Hemi 4 speed, mango, black interior needed rest, numbers match, came from Ut. Should be in their history books.
Guess 1 0f about 50, low number of 4 speeds as I recall.
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 27, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
shelbymann1970,
I did not know that, the window must be a pretty good match for the opening, angles etc.
For Mopar fans, was Hemi 4 speed, mango, black interior needed rest, numbers match, came from Ut. Should be in their history books.
Guess 1 0f about 50, low number of 4 speeds as I recall.
You have had a lot of cool cars over the years. I seem to recall a friend of mine bought the Sean Penn 68 Shelby GT500 off of you decades ago. Lives in Windsor. Gary
I got to briefly drive the Sean Penn car when former owner Tom Holland (the older movie director, not today's actor) owned it, and had already promised it to Madonna, to buy for Sean.
It had a couple of small problems to be dealt with.
A buddy and I worked on it at Holland's house for a couple of days and got it back to running right.
Never got to meet Madonna, however.
Was a screwed up deal in a way.
sideoiler;
I can not remember who I bought it from, probably was Tom Holland as you say.
He did say he worked with the Studious.
Story I got from them, Madonna gave it to Sean on their wedding day.
Was told it appeared on the cover of a big Hollywood magazine.
Told Keifer Sutherland, Sean penn, Charlie Sheen and some other rich actor raised hell in it with police >> in Hollywood.
It had about 5,000 worth of stereo equip in it.
Was a pretty good solid car as I recall.
Was the guys name>>>long time ago, Vito Campanaro I sold it to ?
Shelbyman, thank you, i have had over my fair share one might say.
Mr Vinnie was always the first to know>> might ask him the day I called him and told him I found the original block for his 67 gt 350, about 20 miles from his house>> no S--t.
Proud to by a Shelby & Ford guy at heart.
The one I hated to walk from, was the 67 built pro type 68 conv . long story there.
Respectfully,
John
Cudino,
I missed the V code plum crazy or panther pink challenger Conv, white int 440 6 barrel car that was hit in the rear by Columbia Mo.
Seems panther pink, as it was 1 of 1 I think. I think it was a matching number, hit real hard in rear as I recall.
Another for your notes, was 2nd last bidder on the plum crazy 1971 hemi conv in KC Mo.
That Galeon, or Gallon guy that holds the records of important mopar cars, shared quite a bit with me,
There was a concept hemi car that was not in his factory records, fortunately it had its build sheet>> real odd build. Matching number. Number 10 as I recall on serial number. Arizona
One I should have kept, 68 GTX Hemi Conv, red, white int, white top, and as I recall 4 speed, not matching number. Southern Ut.
I liked pre 68 Jags to,, but not limited still.
I stayed away from GM, as I could never trust their numbers, alum warranty tags, build sheets etc, let alone they sold
stamp kits>> piss on that.
Respectfully,
John
John,
Fun to think of Penn, Sheen, etc, tearing it up around Hollywood in that car!
Did you know Bob Larivee, the owner of ISCA custom car shows in the 1970s-80s? I had dinner with him a few times, and one of those times he brought his Hemi Cuda convertible, 4-speed. I think it was black. But, it's been about 35 years ago. Cool & Rare car.
Around that same time (early '80s) a guy named Merle Dupree, from the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles, had a pretty decent collection of Hemi cars. Mostly '60s full-sizers. Ever heard of him?
A buddy bought a '66 Hemi Satellite 4-speed from Merle. Not a great condition car, but original. My buddy didn't drive it easily. There was so much blow-by out of the engine compartment that you could barely see out the windshield (or breathe) whenever we street raced it.
Good times.
Van
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 27, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
For Mopar fans, was Hemi 4 speed, mango, black interior needed rest, numbers match, came from Ut. Should be in their history books.
Guess 1 0f about 50, low number of 4 speeds as I recall.
Hi John,
Your Hemi 4-speed Daytona was very rare. There's been a lot of debate as to how many of those were built, and there's some paperwork that shows as many as 22, but in reality I think the number is closer to 15. I'm doing a little digging to see if I can find your old car, which was very likely EV2 Hemi Orange in color. If I turn something up I'll let you know.
QuoteI missed the V code plum crazy or panther pink challenger Conv, white int 440 6 barrel car that was hit in the rear by Columbia Mo.
Seems panther pink, as it was 1 of 1 I think. I think it was a matching number, hit real hard in rear as I recall.
If it was Panther Pink I know that car very well, there is only one like it known to exist. It is the first car painted in Panther Pink (FM3), and debuted at the 1970 Chicago Auto Show. I don't know of it ever being hit, but I believe early in it's life it was stolen, stripped, and left in a ditch, before eventually being restored to its former glory. Here's a link:
https://pantherpink.com/fm3004.
Quote
Another for your notes, was 2nd last bidder on the plum crazy 1971 hemi conv in KC Mo.
That Galeon, or Gallon guy that holds the records of important mopar cars, shared quite a bit with me,
There was a concept hemi car that was not in his factory records, fortunately it had its build sheet>> real odd build. Matching number. Number 10 as I recall on serial number. Arizona
You've definitely been around some nice cars. I think you're referring to Galen Govier. I'm not sure about the concept Hemi car, but I am well-versed in the Hemi Cuda and Challenger convertibles. Is it possible the "71 Hemicuda Vert you tried to get in KC was white instead of plum crazy? There were only 12 made, and the only purple '71 was up in Canada. But there was a white one that originated from the KC area, and interestingly enough it was/is also a column-shifted Auto.
- Wade
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 27, 2021, 05:15:27 PM
Was a screwed up deal in a way.
sideoiler;
I can not remember who I bought it from, probably was Tom Holland as you say.
He did say he worked with the Studious.
Story I got from them, Madonna gave it to Sean on their wedding day.
Was told it appeared on the cover of a big Hollywood magazine.
Told Keifer Sutherland, Sean penn, Charlie Sheen and some other rich actor raised hell in it with police >> in Hollywood.
It had about 5,000 worth of stereo equip in it.
Was a pretty good solid car as I recall.
Was the guys name>>>long time ago, Vito Campanaro I sold it to ?
Shelbyman, thank you, i have had over my fair share one might say.
Mr Vinnie was always the first to know>> might ask him the day I called him and told him I found the original block for his 67 gt 350, about 20 miles from his house>> no S--t.
Proud to by a Shelby & Ford guy at heart.
The one I hated to walk from, was the 67 built pro type 68 conv . long story there.
Respectfully,
John
Yes, Vito Campanaro you sold it to. I haven't seen him in a few years (Covid) but he pops up occasionally. Last time was at my friend's Seraphim's house. Gary
Cudino,
It could have been white.
Guy had owned it for many years. may have an old pic of it.
It was a chance in a lifetime to get it. 71 Hemi Challenger conv,
The Panther pink V code conv was hit, debated on getting it, perhaps was too reserved in our offer to buy.
The concept car from AZ led to Galen<< mopar chief, finding out that not all is as records>> known>> say.
Same as a 65 Shelby that did get documented as 1 of 1 from Shelby records , 5 special order things on the car. Big Jim Cowles, ended up getting from me, one of two trips he made out to my place>>> John from Utah.
Gary, when you bump into Vito next, tell him John from Utah said hi !
Been a crazy ride for sure.
Also>>Heading to Watkins Glen where Ben, builder of the 1935 Speedster, worlds first exotic super car, is being placed in the Walk of fame.
Will share the walkway with shelby, gurney, cunningham, penski, hill, Finch, Kimberly>> all the great early race legends.
Will be there on the 6th, one of the two Rod Millen Built Miata mazda backed werks cars will be raced with the big dogs, 1st ever allowed to race SVRA.
Kind oi like the cobra coupe of the million cars sold. they are in the Genises book of world records, for that reason, the most sold two seat roadster in automotive history, 1878-2021.
Had to look into the crystal ball again,
There are a few experts on early Miata's at the SAAC site.
John
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 28, 2021, 09:56:04 AM
Cudino,
It could have been white.
Guy had owned it for many years. may have an old pic of it.
It was a chance in a lifetime to get it. 71 Hemi Challenger conv,
The Panther pink V code conv was hit, debated on getting it, perhaps was too reserved in our offer to buy.
The concept car from AZ led to Galen<< mopar chief, finding out that not all is as records>> known>> say.
Same as a 65 Shelby that did get documented as 1 of 1 from Shelby records , 5 special order things on the car. Big Jim Cowles, ended up getting from me, one of two trips he made out to my place>>> John from Utah.
Gary, when you bump into Vito next, tell him John from Utah said hi !
Been a crazy ride for sure.
Also>>Heading to Watkins Glen where Ben, builder of the 1935 Speedster, worlds first exotic super car, is being placed in the Walk of fame.
Will share the walkway with shelby, gurney, cunningham, penski, hill, Finch, Kimberly>> all the great early race legends.
Will be there on the 6th, one of the two Rod Millen Built Miata mazda backed werks cars will be raced with the big dogs, 1st ever allowed to race SVRA.
Kind oi like the cobra coupe of the million cars sold. they are in the Genises book of world records, for that reason, the most sold two seat roadster in automotive history, 1878-2021.
Had to look into the crystal ball again,
There are a few experts on early Miata's at the SAAC site.
John
I will tell Vito the next time I see him. I remember you quite well as John from Utah for your wanted ads for cars. You wouldn't have known me for sure back then. Glad to see you are still enjoying cars. I remember Vito telling me he told you what he was looking for. NO HIGHLAND GREEN cars. Then you said you had one and hear you out. LOL. I remember he was adament about being able to get a Canadian title for it and preserving the Penn title. Same time he bought a aqua 69 GT500 vert out of Mn. Early 90s. Gary
Quote from: Harris Speedster on August 28, 2021, 09:56:04 AM
Cudino,
It could have been white.
Guy had owned it for many years. may have an old pic of it.
It was a chance in a lifetime to get it. 71 Hemi Challenger conv,
John
OK, now I know which car you're talking about. I think you mean a "70 rather than a '71, that's what threw me off. While Hemi Cuda convertibles were built in both 70 and 71, Hemi Challenger convertibles were only built for one year, 1970, and there is a purple one living in the KC area. Only 12 of those built as well, although there's rumors of a 13th. Although the owner occasionally considers selling, you might be happy to know that it actually never got sold, even today it is still owned by the same fellow (Dwain) who first bought it off a used car lot in the mid '70s. I guess this must be the car you are thinking of, nice car, Dwain painted it purple decades ago but it was originally Sublime green.
- Wade
Cudina,
I thought for sure the car left.
Why I stopped my efforts to purchase.
Cool that he still owns it.
Guess I messed up some years also.
John
Quote from: shelbydoug on August 25, 2021, 08:00:59 AM
It would seem that only Chrysler could possibly conceive of offering such strange contradictory factory build options? An automatic column shift with a Hemi and hood scoop?
What happened to the push buttons on the dash board? My HS Driver's Ed, a Ply Mouth Fury, car had those. You could really slam those buttons but the girls needed to be careful they didn't break their "nails".
What about a roll bar with a cigar holder?
LMAO
Quote from: 69mach351w on August 28, 2021, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on August 25, 2021, 08:00:59 AM
It would seem that only Chrysler could possibly conceive of offering such strange contradictory factory build options? An automatic column shift with a Hemi and hood scoop?
What happened to the push buttons on the dash board? My HS Driver's Ed, a Ply Mouth Fury, car had those. You could really slam those buttons but the girls needed to be careful they didn't break their "nails".
What about a roll bar with a cigar holder?
LMAO
Well Chrysler did Max Wedge and race Hemi cars with a dash push button trans. There are 2 Mr Gasket cars I'd used to see every year in Dearborn. Here is one for sale on BaT. Got to admit that is weird for that time period reaching to the dash to push a button to shift. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-dodge-330-hemi-lightweight/
Yea, my late Aunt had a Mopar of some sort that had the push buttons on the LS dash. I barely remember that because she didn't own it long and I can remember riding in it only a few times. Seems to be a Plymouth Fury body shape.
Well guys,
Not going well at this time on the Cuda.
I believe I mentioned his son had become involved, if not, he has.
Was not allowed to check/inspect it this past weekend.
This is nothing new, as after over 50 years in the car trade, nothing surprises me.
Will post information on the car if it moves forward.
John
That's a bummer, sorry about that.
- Wade
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It would seem that only Chrysler could possibly conceive of offering such strange contradictory factory build options? An automatic column shift with a Hemi and hood scoop?
What happened to the push buttons on the dash board? My HS Driver's Ed, a Ply Mouth Fury, car had those. You could really slam those buttons but the girls needed to be careful they didn't break their "nails".
What about a roll bar with a cigar holder?
LMAO
Well Chrysler did Max Wedge and race Hemi cars with a dash push button trans. There are 2 Mr Gasket cars I'd used to see every year in Dearborn. Here is one for sale on BaT. Got to admit that is weird for that time period reaching to the dash to push a button to shift. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-dodge-330-hemi-lightweight/
Come to think of it, the kid from the Ply Mouth family up the street always cautioned some to "not push his buttons"? Huh. Never thought that's where the expression came from? ::)