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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: Kyle on September 05, 2021, 03:39:33 PM

Title: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 05, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
Hi all,

There were types on a Shelby GT500 windshield washer reservoir bag ?
I think there are types from the back side.
Here are some photos.

Thanks Kyle.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: J_Speegle on September 05, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
Are you including non-original service (NOS) parts?

Very often service replacements made after the year of car production are different due to changing requirements/specs and changing suppliers to fill orders
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 05, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on September 05, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
Are you including non-original service (NOS) parts?

Very often service replacements made after the year of car production are different due to changing requirements/specs and changing suppliers to fill orders



I am looking for an original bag.
These two photos of the bags are NOS.
Kyle.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 05, 2021, 04:13:39 PM
I need to know how they were from production line.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: JD on September 05, 2021, 09:44:00 PM
Show images of the fronts, overall and the filler cap and the lower nipple where the drain hose connects.

Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 06, 2021, 12:55:26 AM
Here is a photo.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 09, 2021, 04:20:48 PM
Anyone know how they were from production please?
Thanks Kyle.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Richstang on September 16, 2021, 09:11:14 AM
I'm not sure what you're asking, but there were two types of windshield washer holders I'm aware of;
-Early cars received the washer fluid bag as you pictured above (originals have a dull gold printed color)
-Later cars received the plastic bottle container.
We've been told the plastic bottles were documented to be a running change at Ford around 3/1/1967.
I have not seen that document, but would like to...to confirm the statement and date.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: roddster on September 16, 2021, 10:17:29 AM
Might the point be, where could somebody get the gold print re-applied onto an original bag?
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 16, 2021, 12:48:28 PM
Hi Rich,

My car have the bag not the plastic bottle.
But it is missing.
My question is the first two pictures that I found from Internet the first one from the back is a cotton material and the second one is more glossy material.

How they were from production?

Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:07:17 PM
Hi Kyle,

I'll try to answer your question.  There are some differences between the assembly-line, early style and later style service replacement '67 washer bags.  The assembly-line style washer bags are the same as the early service replacement washer bags.  Both washer bags have a fabric backside that has a soft woven cotton appearance that looks to be treated to hold liquid. 

The later service replacement washer bags tend to have a woven fabric (possibly a nylon/cotton mix) where the weave is more apparent and it does not have that soft treated cotton appearance. 

Here are a couple pictures to show the difference between the assembly-line/early service and later service washer bags (some pictures are difficult to see details):
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
Another difference from the assembly-line, early service, and later service washer bags is the nozzle at the base of the washer bag. 

The assembly-line / early service replacement are identical in appearance and the later service replacement is very different.

The bottom picture is that of a reproduction washer bag nozzle.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
The silk screened FORD writing on the front of the washer bag is typically faint even when the washer bag is new.  The original assembly line style all the way to late service washer bags use the same silk screening format and are identical.

The reproduction bags have a very bright silk screen appearance and the layout on the reproductions is different than original.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:27:31 PM
The washer bag lids are typically the same from assembly-line style to later Ford service replacement.  The direction of the production marks in the aluminum lid may vary a bit, but overall the lids are basically the same on all the Ford washer bags.

The reproduction washer bag lid has a completely different appearance as you can see in the pics.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:35:54 PM
The backside of the original Ford washer bag compared to the reproduction bag.  The reproduction is similar to the early service replacement style, but is not the same as any of the Ford bags.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 03:38:15 PM
I hope this helps answer your question about the different styles of washer bags.  If I missed anything or something needs to be added, please feel free to chime in.

Regards,
George Schalk
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: Kyle on September 16, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Thanks for all the information George.
I understand everything.

Thanks Kyle.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: 67350#1242 on September 16, 2021, 05:21:10 PM
Do the assembly line bags have the "D" screened on lower LH corner?
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 05:42:28 PM
Quote from: 67350#1242 on September 16, 2021, 05:21:10 PM
Do the assembly line bags have the "D" screened on lower LH corner?
The assembly-line washer bags and early service bags I have samples of, do have the "D" silkscreened on them at the lower left.  I can't say for sure if all assembly-line and early service washer bags have the "D", but the later service bags do not.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: George Schalk on September 16, 2021, 06:05:45 PM
One more thing to note, with age and after the washer bag has been used, they seem to shrink.  The new bags, early and late service, all measure approximately 10"x10" and all the used samples I have and seen seem to be approximately 3/4" to 1" difference, from the nos samples, all the way around.  My guess would be because of the cloth material on the backside that would make them shrink in addition to the heat of the engine.  With age and use they become somewhat distorted.
Title: Re: 1967 GT500 windshield washer bag reservoir
Post by: roddster on September 19, 2021, 12:35:59 PM
  Excellent information George.  Thanks.