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Title: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: Kent on December 01, 2021, 12:33:31 PM
Maybe someone can tell something about it? Otherwise I´m glad to share it here.

https://uk.drouot.com/l/16686811-1966-shelby-gt-350-genuine-she?actionParam=listLot&controllerParam=lot&fromId=116225
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: silverton_ford on December 01, 2021, 12:49:32 PM
Thank you for posting.  Here are a few photos of the car from the link.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/44-011221124552.png)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/44-011221124620.png)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/44-011221124649.png)

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Ad description:

 
DESCRIPTION
1966 SHELBY GT 350
Genuine Shelby listed in the Shelby American World Registry

Fully documented history since new

Very attractive price !

French registration title

Chassis n° SFM6S2160

Areal master stroke by Lee Iacocca, the Ford Mustang will remain one of the most remarkable success stories in the history of the motorcar, both from a marketing and commercial point of view, with record profits for the American firm. Statutory, reliable and efficient, the pony car ticks all the boxes to the point of quickly attracting the attention of the Texan driver Carroll Shelby. He soon entered the car in competition, winning three SCCA Production B titles in the mid-1960s. Taking full advantage of this success in competition, Shelby began to build Mustangs that were modified and then homologated by Ford and marketed by several of the brand's distributors. The first of its kind was the Shelby GT 350, which appeared in 1965, equipped with a modified version of Ford's 4.7-liter small block V8 (289 ci) developing 306 hp. Produced at the beginning of May 1966, our example was used as a company car by Jim Riddle, a close collaborator of Carroll Shelby, before being sent to a Ford dealer in Huntington Beach, California. It was then presented to two other dealers of the American brand (Carter Auto Transport in Newark, New Jersey, then Paul Carey Ford in Decatur, Georgia), and was acquired and registered some time later by its first owner, Adolph Szewczyk. From Georgia, where it resided for a few years, it moved to neighboring Florida in March 1987 where it was registered to a certain Michael Vacco Jr. Three years later, a French collector bought it from Mustang Classics (Pompano Beach, Florida) for the sum of $33,000 and kept it for nearly twenty years in the Paris region. It was on this occasion that it was registered for the first time in the Hauts-de-Seine region and that it benefited from a racing preparation (roll bar, buckets, harness, kill switch, fire extinguisher, etc.) in order to illustrate itself in the French VEC Championship. Its PTH of time is joined in the historical file (date of delivery: February 24, 1997). In 2009, Claude Dubois, a well-known figure in the world of historic competition, former 24 Hours of Le Mans driver and Shelby, De Tomaso and Chrysler importer for Belgium, authenticated the car after a complete inspection. It will then change hands one last time in January 2010. Put back in its original configuration at the beginning of the year, our Shelby GT350 wears its traditional Wimbledon White color with two wide Guardsman Blue stripes. The buckets have been replaced by the original seats and the black rear seat that was fitted when the car left the factory in 1966. Remnants of the competition, it has kept its 100 liters FIA tank, its side exhausts and its superb American Racing 15 inches aluminum wheels (the original ones will be delivered with the car). This car starts at the first turn of the key and is ready to deliver on the road or the track, depending on the future owner. It will require some expenses to perfect its behavior, including a front end and brake adjustment, as its engine coupled to a mechanical gearbox and its rear axle with limited slip differential are just asking to propel the car to speeds that are now prohibited.


Has anyone else seen the VIN stamped on the left front shock tower?

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/44-011221124806.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: gt350cs on December 01, 2021, 01:16:00 PM
I believe that 6S2160 was original green and not the white shown.
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 01:19:08 PM
Was originaly green like you said ,this car was for sale not a long time ago for many months in this dealer :https://mecanicgallery.com/nos-galeries/autos/
i guess the owner is trying to sale it now with Drouot , i wanted to go take a look at it when i was driving close but didn't have time , stamping is not original , maybe it's original stamping  on right apron is gone and they must have one visible for registration ...
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: joephil on December 01, 2021, 04:20:51 PM
The correct stampings are present  ;)
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
then i don't understand why !! ???
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: J_Speegle on December 01, 2021, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
then i don't understand why !! ???

If the car is overseas what ever country the car was registered may and often do have other rules that must be followed. Its possible that the country required a VIN in the body, visible, and on the drivers side. Others required additional plaques or official identification labels placed on cars

Just a possibility
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 04:41:38 PM
not in France , but you are right maybe another EU country ...
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: joephil on December 01, 2021, 05:08:11 PM
Registered in France in 2010: AK-753-HV.
In 2017 she was in the Lyon / Saint Etienne Region in France  ::)
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: HistoryBuff on December 01, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
Here is a picture of a Shelby GT350 which ran at LeMans. i think Claude DuBois. But it seems to have aluminum framed side windows like an R model so I guess it's not the same car. Wonder where this one is?
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: Kent on December 02, 2021, 04:17:21 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on December 01, 2021, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
then i don't understand why !! ???

If the car is overseas what ever country the car was registered may and often do have other rules that must be followed. Its possible that the country required a VIN in the body, visible, and on the drivers side. Others required additional plaques or official identification labels placed on cars

Just a possibility

Yes Jeff you are right, nothing special here that usa cars became another vin stamp on the passenger side frame/shock tower etc. and its a must for the whole EU also france due to the EU regulations and registration laws, but not everybody take care about it on older cars or some cars dont have them like my cars with more value then there is an agreement with officials that the car is to much worth to stamp anything on it or change something on it for a registration.
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: chris NOS on December 02, 2021, 07:25:53 AM
Quote from: HistoryBuff on December 01, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
Here is a picture of a Shelby GT350 which ran at LeMans. i think Claude DuBois. But it seems to have aluminum framed side windows like an R model so I guess it's not the same car. Wonder where this one is?

This is 5R539 , it looks like it's been destroyed but some car in Belgium claim to be it , Wolfgang did an extensive research on the history of this car .
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: honker on December 02, 2021, 09:48:56 AM
Here's some info on 5R539 from a French forum.

Mike
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: fm hipo gt 1966 on December 04, 2021, 02:23:52 AM
Would be proposed by Aguttes in Espace Charenton (327 rue de Charenton – 75012 Paris) on the 12th, December.
https://issuu.com/aguttes/docs/cat_autos_121221-issu?fr=sNDU3MTQwNDk0MQ
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: joephil on December 09, 2021, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 01, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
then i don't understand why !! ???

This Shelby was imported in 1990 and has a normal registration card, so it went through Dreal (Mînes) which required a cold pad from the SFM.
In 1990 she was only 24 years old and it takes at least 30 years to claim a collector's card which would not have required her to be identified by the SFM66 
it was obligatory for homologation in France with a normal (no collector) registration.
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: chris NOS on December 10, 2021, 04:39:14 AM
that can be the reason if the guy at DREAL didn't accept the original stamping on right apron  ;)
thank you for the info.
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: joephil on December 12, 2021, 11:59:46 AM
Sold 140K€
Repair costs estimated at 15 to 20K €
adjudication fee 28K €
Total 188K€
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: fm hipo gt 1966 on December 18, 2021, 03:54:29 AM
It seems final sale was 165.560 € : https://www.aguttes.com/lot/116225/16686811?oft_id=8553282&oft_k=IgzeJann&oft_lk=ZAoaUW&oft_d=637754142853700000
To be added repair costs on mechanical parts, and fees.
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: mat31 on December 19, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
Sold for 165000€
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: KR Convertible on December 20, 2021, 01:39:40 PM
Or $186K US
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: tim65fastback on December 20, 2021, 01:44:02 PM
As the auction is over I wondered if I could ask this question for anyone to comment. The Monte Carlo bar in the pictures, has it been relocated so the tube sits slightly further back ? (ie by re-welding it further back on the bracket) .Because the one I have is also straight and sits directly above the distributor. I wonder if mine is therefore incorrect or has that one been modified to clear the tall Accel racing 11 distributor. I'll copy and paste the underhood pic and move elsewhere if its inappropriate to put it here (sorry)
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: J_Speegle on December 21, 2021, 12:33:34 AM
Quote from: tim65fastback on December 20, 2021, 01:44:02 PM
As the auction is over I wondered if I could ask this question for anyone to comment. The Monte Carlo bar in the pictures, has it been relocated so the tube sits slightly further back ? (ie by re-welding it further back on the bracket) .Because the one I have is also straight and sits directly above the distributor. I wonder if mine is therefore incorrect or has that one been modified to clear the tall Accel racing 11 distributor. I'll copy and paste the underhood pic and move elsewhere if its inappropriate to put it here (sorry)

Hope this helps

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-211221003242-166701493.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1966 GT350 SFM6S2160 at Auction in France
Post by: tim65fastback on December 21, 2021, 04:13:31 AM
Thanks Jeff
yes it does. all the best Tim