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Title: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: Rukiddin on January 04, 2022, 04:40:02 PM
I am no expert on Lucas lights and have had this for years but went with Marchal lights on my '68. Ford shows this number for 68 69 70. Marked Lucas,etc just looks different.
What is application? Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 04, 2022, 04:59:11 PM
Ford MPC calls for GT/CS or 68/70 Shelby.  The lens/housing wouldn't be correct for a '68.  Others would have to weight in on 69/70 application.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: propayne on January 04, 2022, 05:05:18 PM
And 1968 XR7-G Cougar.

But those style of lights weren't what was used.

- Phillip
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: 68blk500c on January 04, 2022, 05:30:24 PM
Those are not correct for any year 68-70 Shelby.  Housing and mounting are wrong, plus the lenses are wrong. 
I am dismayed how that version of Lucas ended up in the Ford service parts program.  I would be so ticked off to open your box only to find those! 
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: TLea on January 05, 2022, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: 68blk500c on January 04, 2022, 05:30:24 PM
I am dismayed how that version of Lucas ended up in the Ford service parts program.  I would be so ticked off to open your box only to find those!
Talk about box shock! A few years back I bought a box of the C8ZZ lamps in the service recall campaign stamp on the box expecting to find the Lucas lamps inside.  To my surprise when I opened it was the pair of Marchal fog lamp they had taken off and replaced.  Basically new old stock takeoffs so at the end of the day it was a pretty good buy
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: martyjac on January 05, 2022, 06:51:40 AM
These were called Square 8 Plus and were made in Italy. The originals were Square 8's made in England with at least 3 different versions I believe. Unfortunately Ford never changed the part number though. I needed one back in 1979 and this is what Ford was supplying by then.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: Rukiddin on January 05, 2022, 09:16:59 AM
Thank you for all that replied! I plan on listing for sale,but needed to be able to list accurately. I wish I had two  8)

I am sure there are more out there and someone wants a spare or a match for the one they have! I am not interested in buying any though ;)
Thanks!
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 05, 2022, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: TLea on January 05, 2022, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: 68blk500c on January 04, 2022, 05:30:24 PM
I am dismayed how that version of Lucas ended up in the Ford service parts program.  I would be so ticked off to open your box only to find those!
Talk about box shock! A few years back I bought a box of the C8ZZ lamps in the service recall campaign stamp on the box expecting to find the Lucas lamps inside.  To my surprise when I opened it was the pair of Marchal fog lamp they had taken off and replaced.  Basically new old stock takeoffs so at the end of the day it was a pretty good buy
That is a all too common story that I hear tell of and have experienced first hand over the years of finding the take off in the new replacement box .In Tim's case it was OK given the new take off part replaced  Unfortunately not so for most.  Also interestingly enough many parts new in the box parts that were found to be defective were placed back in the box and on the shelf were mainly electrical type items . They didn't get sent back for some reason and ended up in the hands of parts pickers cleaning out shelves. It is hard to tell sometimes of if the defective electrical part is bad until it is tried to be put back into service.  It can be hard to convince someone trying to sell a part that is supposed to be NOS (typically on ebay) that it is the takeoff put back into the new box.  They can't believe their lying eyes and the new box is what they go by and you can not convince them otherwise.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: Royce Peterson on January 05, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
A friend bid on a lot of 427 NOS blocks when Ford was getting rid of them in 1979. He and another friend won the bid for some 53 NOS 427 blocks. The auction was sealed bid, with the parts FOB Fred Jones distribution center here in Tulsa.

As it turned out a lot of them had issues with the assembly or machine work and had been returned to Ford dealers across the country. While they were all fixable, and he was not too upset since the bid was just $200 each, they were not truly as advertised.

As you related it pays to examine so - called "NOS" parts carefully.


Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 05, 2022, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: TLea on January 05, 2022, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: 68blk500c on January 04, 2022, 05:30:24 PM
I am dismayed how that version of Lucas ended up in the Ford service parts program.  I would be so ticked off to open your box only to find those!
Talk about box shock! A few years back I bought a box of the C8ZZ lamps in the service recall campaign stamp on the box expecting to find the Lucas lamps inside.  To my surprise when I opened it was the pair of Marchal fog lamp they had taken off and replaced.  Basically new old stock takeoffs so at the end of the day it was a pretty good buy
That is a all too common story that I hear tell of and have experienced first hand over the years of finding the take off in the new replacement box .In Tim's case it was OK given the new take off part replaced  Unfortunately not so for most.  Also interestingly enough many parts new in the box parts that were found to be defective were placed back in the box and on the shelf were mainly electrical type items . They didn't get sent back for some reason and ended up in the hands of parts pickers cleaning out shelves. It is hard to tell sometimes of if the defective electrical part is bad until it is tried to be put back into service.  It can be hard to convince someone trying to sell a part that is supposed to be NOS (typically on ebay) that it is the takeoff put back into the new box.  They can't believe their lying eyes and the new box is what they go by and you can not convince them otherwise.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 05, 2022, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on January 05, 2022, 06:50:34 PMAs it turned out a lot of them had issues .... they were not truly as advertised.

As you related it pays to examine so - called "NOS" parts carefully.

They seem to have been NOS but defective. Probably sent to the dealer as parts - dealer found problem and sent it back.

I have the lights off my sister's GT/CS they have long mounting posts.
Title: Re: NOS fog light? C8ZZ 15200 D Lucas later service part?
Post by: 68blk500c on January 06, 2022, 09:10:25 AM
Calif. Special Lucas lights mount differently (as shown) than Shelby, although the lights themselves are the same.