If a GT350 with 4 speed and air was ordered with a HD battery would that be the group 27? Non air GT350s got the group 22 then the HD would be the 24. Was the 24 standard with the air cars and HD bring you up to a 27? Thanks.
I dont think they used group 22 batteries in 1969
Quote from: Tired Sheep on February 10, 2022, 11:43:49 AM
I dont think they used group 22 batteries in 1969
Trust me they did. Boss 302s and GT350 no air cars got them. I actually have bought a group 22 battery tray for my Shelby off of Ed Meyer and have conversed with a few judges as to whether a group 22 battery will ever be made. The code on my build sheet is for a group 22 also . Gary
My '70 GT350 (have only owned for a few years) came with a group 24 battery (AC Delco brand if you can believe that) mounted in a group 27 size tray. I replaced it with a group 27 battery based on that and the fact that the car was ordered with the heavy duty battery option. The car is an original 4 speed with air conditioning. My build sheet battery code reads A D. Interested in any other comments/observations on this. Thanks.
Dan
Quote from: Wooahbundy on February 10, 2022, 02:29:50 PM
My '70 GT350 (have only owned for a few years) came with a group 24 battery (AC Delco brand if you can believe that) mounted in a group 27 size tray. I replaced it with a group 27 battery based on that and the fact that the car was ordered with the heavy duty battery option. The car is an original 4 speed with air conditioning. My build sheet battery code reads A D. Interested in any other comments/observations on this. Thanks.
Dan
Ed once told me the codes. My build sheet is terrible in a few areas and I can only see the "A" on mine in the "40" box. I use light and magnifiers just to see that. I cannot see if there is a code in the "code" in the "41" box. I know my car only had the standard 22 battery. HD for my car would be the 24. Air cars got the 24 standard so assume the 27 is the HD for that. see my build sheet and you can understand why. Gary
AA = 21/22
AB = 24
AD = 27
AF = 29?
Quote from: 430dragpack on February 11, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
AA = 21/22
AB = 24
AD = 27
AF = 29?
Thanks. That is the chart I was looking for. I'm sure Ed gave it to me at one time. Gary
Quote from: 430dragpack on February 11, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
AA = 21/22
AB = 24
AD = 27
AF = 29?
Thank you very much for this information.
Quote from: 430dragpack on February 11, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
AA = 21/22
AB = 24
AD = 27
AF = 29?
under an optimal lighted magnifier used about 25 years ago I think my second box was an A to go with the first box being an A. That was at a facility I worked at at the time. Don't have one now so it is really hard to make out an A in my second box. My mind sees it only after I convinced myself it is an A. ;D
The pink 69 shelby order form tells u what battery came in the 69 gt 350
Quote from: Special Ed on February 13, 2022, 02:32:16 PM
The pink 69 shelby order form tells u what battery came in the 69 gt 350
But not coded out Ed. offers 55 and 70 amp. Circle one. Since mine is blank it would be the group 22.
Wooahbundy gave me his findings. So can we get some more clarification here? I would appreciate it. Here is a car. GT350 air 4 speed 70 amp battery. So this would be a group 27 or group 24? We all know the 500 carries only a group 27 and a standard GT350 a group 22 so on the order form you can pic a 55 amp(group 24?) or a group 70 amp(group 27?) for the GT350 only as optional. Thanks for the help
AC equipped cars should have the larger charging system as a mandatory option, thus the larger battery.
What does your build sheet say?
Bill
Quote from: Bill on April 29, 2022, 09:40:35 AM
AC equipped cars should have the larger charging system as a mandatory option, thus the larger battery.
What does your build sheet say?
Bill
Don't have one on the car order from in my last post(my 4 speed non air car I think it is a AA but hard to read). Checking for a friend with an air 4 speed. Order form says 70 amp battery as the pic above says. Another poster said his build sheet said "AD" on his 4 speed air GT350(group 27). So my take on the order form would me all non air GT350s got a group 22. Air cars got the group 24. Optional on a 4 speed could be a group 24 and optional on an air 4 speed a group 27. Order form is weird on how it is worded also. Check it out. It is why I'm asking for clarification. To be clear my car should have came with a group 22(non air 4 speed car) as standard equipment.
i believe some confusion here....you can get the group 24 or 27 battery(order form battery option 1 or 2) on a gt350 with or without air conditioning.....i have a 1970 gt350 convertible 4spd with ac and a group 27 battery,with battery option 2 marked on my order sheet....just depends on what battery option the car was ordered with...thx keith
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 29, 2022, 08:34:44 AM
Wooahbundy gave me his findings. So can we get some more clarification here? I would appreciate it. Here is a car. GT350 air 4 speed 70 amp battery. So this would be a group 27 or group 24? We all know the 500 carries only a group 27 and a standard GT350 a group 22 so on the order form you can pic a 55 amp(group 24?) or a group 70 amp(group 27?) for the GT350 only as optional. Thanks for the help
The sheet shows a "2" marked for the battery which is the 70 amp 27. The next step optional battery for a 4 speed GT350 was typically the 24 . FYI the GT350 auto came standard with the 24 .I have not seen a indication that the auto ever came with a 22,has anyone else? This is not very typical for a GT350 4 speed to skip the 24 and go with the 27 but the sheet is the provenance.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 29, 2022, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 29, 2022, 08:34:44 AM
Wooahbundy gave me his findings. So can we get some more clarification here? I would appreciate it. Here is a car. GT350 air 4 speed 70 amp battery. So this would be a group 27 or group 24? We all know the 500 carries only a group 27 and a standard GT350 a group 22 so on the order form you can pic a 55 amp(group 24?) or a group 70 amp(group 27?) for the GT350 only as optional. Thanks for the help
The sheet shows a "2" marked for the battery which is the 70 amp 27. The next step optional battery for a 4 speed GT350 was typically the 24 . FYI the GT350 auto came standard with the 24 .I have not seen a indication that the auto ever came with a 22,has anyone else? This is not very typical for a GT350 4 speed to skip the 24 and go with the 27 but the sheet is the provenance.
So, Bob, to be clear a GT350 auto came with a 24-hence the GT350 4 speed on the order box "1". The 4 speed came standard with the group 22. Correct? That would make sense on the battery box order area.
GT350 4 speed group 22. Option 1 is group 24 and option 2 is group 27
GT350 Auto. group 24 standard Group 27 option 2 only
assumption is with air on a 4 speed it is mandatory group 24
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 29, 2022, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 29, 2022, 08:34:44 AM
Wooahbundy gave me his findings. So can we get some more clarification here? I would appreciate it. Here is a car. GT350 air 4 speed 70 amp battery. So this would be a group 27 or group 24? We all know the 500 carries only a group 27 and a standard GT350 a group 22 so on the order form you can pic a 55 amp(group 24?) or a group 70 amp(group 27?) for the GT350 only as optional. Thanks for the help
The sheet shows a "2" marked for the battery which is the 70 amp 27. The next step optional battery for a 4 speed GT350 was typically the 24 . FYI the GT350 auto came standard with the 24 .I have not seen a indication that the auto ever came with a 22,has anyone else? This is not very typical for a GT350 4 speed to skip the 24 and go with the 27 but the sheet is the provenance.
To be clear Bob the sheet above showing the 70 Amp is an air 4 speed car. That is Colin's old red 69 GT350 4 speed air car.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 30, 2022, 07:04:13 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 29, 2022, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 29, 2022, 08:34:44 AM
Wooahbundy gave me his findings. So can we get some more clarification here? I would appreciate it. Here is a car. GT350 air 4 speed 70 amp battery. So this would be a group 27 or group 24? We all know the 500 carries only a group 27 and a standard GT350 a group 22 so on the order form you can pic a 55 amp(group 24?) or a group 70 amp(group 27?) for the GT350 only as optional. Thanks for the help
The sheet shows a "2" marked for the battery which is the 70 amp 27. The next step optional battery for a 4 speed GT350 was typically the 24 . FYI the GT350 auto came standard with the 24 .I have not seen a indication that the auto ever came with a 22,has anyone else? This is not very typical for a GT350 4 speed to skip the 24 and go with the 27 but the sheet is the provenance.
To be clear Bob the sheet above showing the 70 Amp is an air 4 speed car. That is Colin's old red 69 GT350 4 speed air car.
In case my statement was not clear enough I will clarify . Regardless of whose car it was the 27 in a 4 speed GT350 is not very typical and for those that disbelieve , the order sheet is the provenance (proof) that it came that way.
Bob, my post was to make sure you knew the car was a 4 speed air and not just a 4 speed no air. So a 4 speed air would still get a standard group 22? Not a group 24 standard? Thanks for you expertise on this. Gary
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 30, 2022, 10:19:23 AM
Bob, my post was to make sure you knew the car was a 4 speed air and not just a 4 speed no air. So a 4 speed air would still get a standard group 22? Not a group 24 standard? Thanks for you expertise on this. Gary
A four speed air car would get the group 24. the 27 was a rare seen option for those.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 30, 2022, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 30, 2022, 10:19:23 AM
Bob, my post was to make sure you knew the car was a 4 speed air and not just a 4 speed no air. So a 4 speed air would still get a standard group 22? Not a group 24 standard? Thanks for you expertise on this. Gary
A four speed air car would get the group 24. the 27 was a rare seen option for those.
Thank you.