https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-shelby-gt500-2/
pretty solid car and one of the rare times I'd say I wished they had kept the car white. White with blue stripes and red interior is a striking combo. Has a CJ and not a SCJ in it(reg balancer in one pic).
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If someone from club bought contact me as my mom owned for about 15 yrs. Had interior for it and one time scj for it
In a relatively strong market does anyone think the comments held this car back?
Quote from: Tired Sheep on February 21, 2022, 08:27:00 PM
In a relatively strong market does anyone think the comments held this car back?
Hard to say. The car had a few gnarly paint chips, was an automatic and the bottom looked like it had a previous dealer spray-bomb black treatment. You'd think it would have hit at least $100k though...
Is it a strong market?
That was a very rare (1 of 1) and desirable shelby being a 70 TASCA FORD drag pack RED WHITE BLUE shelby dont get any more AMERCAN than that. Why would anybody change out the rare red interior as thats what makes it so unique as there is even a shelby special red interior registry out of georgia if i remember correctly.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on February 21, 2022, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Tired Sheep on February 21, 2022, 08:27:00 PM
In a relatively strong market does anyone think the comments held this car back?
Hard to say. The car had a few gnarly paint chips, was an automatic and the bottom looked like it had a previous dealer spray-bomb black treatment. You'd think it would have hit at least $100k though...
it didn't have a SCJ in it either although it wouldn't be that expensive to change over to a SCJ from a CJ though. Maybe the black over red interior? Things you mentioned? Environment right now worldwide?
I'd like to have that Starsky Torino.............
Personally, this car should have been double that price in my opinion.
Even with the items pointed out.
I think it would cost 10k to put a SCJ in it. Not cheap in my book
I've seen a couple 69 GT350s recently break 100k and they weren't this nice
Quote from: Tired Sheep on February 22, 2022, 08:16:30 AM
Personally, this car should have been double that price in my opinion.
Even with the items pointed out.
I think it would cost 10k to put a SCJ in it. Not cheap in my book
I've seen a couple 69 GT350s recently break 100k and they weren't this nice
I contacted 2 people this morning who are looking for Shelbys to find out why they didn't bid on this car as they are willing to spend twice as much on one right now. Both are active on BaT and strangely neither asked me about the car during the auction in emails(I have seen many they have been interested in). About 10K for a SCJ. Why not remove the engine. either buy a SCJ and sell the CJ in it or replace the crank rods flex plate and damper and sell the CJ pieces. If you know a decent engine builder the price to do this should be less than half. I'm surprised the seller let it go for that.
Could it be that all the comments from non potential buyers on BAT scared people off? ::)
I hesitate to get too much involved,but after following this auction I looked at it this way.......to restore back to original ,as-built,condition it would require most ALL to be replaced or repainted. If that car was in ORIGINAL condition it would have brought twice the selling price. Just my opinion,of course.
Short list of "original/correct" versus LONG list of "wrong". I think that car is one of those cars that won't be worth much more,or much less as time goes on.....
Shelbymann70 how much do you think it would cost to add the SCJ parts and make it a running car?
Just my 1 cents worth in regards to BAT comments. I currently have a post on the "Cars Wanted" and really looking for a 67 and a 69 for my collection, however the right 70 would work. I saw nothing in the comments that scared me away from this car. I just couldn't figure out how to fit it into what I am trying to accomplish and I have located a car 500 miles away that I am working on. In regards to comments from non buyers, I would be more suspicious of buyers trying to hold prices down rather than non buyers. They are the ones with more to gain.
Quote from: paparazzi on February 22, 2022, 09:58:38 AM
Just my 1 cents worth in regards to BAT comments. I currently have a post on the "Cars Wanted" and really looking for a 67 and a 69 for my collection, however the right 70 would work. I saw nothing in the comments that scared me away from this car. I just couldn't figure out how to fit it into what I am trying to accomplish and I have located a car 500 miles away that I am working on. In regards to comments from non buyers, I would be more suspicious of buyers trying to hold prices down rather than non buyers. They are the ones with more to gain.
good point on buyers or their "friends" posting to help them. Gary
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 22, 2022, 10:15:17 AM
good point on buyers or their "friends" posting to help them. Gary
Yes, guess it's something I hadn't really put much consideration into either... I often wonder if some of the commenters are hard of seeing or are just really that clueless when it comes to condition.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on February 22, 2022, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 22, 2022, 10:15:17 AM
good point on buyers or their "friends" posting to help them. Gary
Yes, guess it's something I hadn't really put much consideration into either... I often wonder if some of the commenters are hard of seeing or are just really that clueless when it comes to condition.
Did you notice only 83 comments? 20 after the auction ended. Not much interest in the car. Ended on a holiday. Winter break and here in Mi a lot with kids out of town for it. Jan auctions hangover is done. Automatic car without a SCJ in it. red interior showing through on some parts. Pretty solid car to work with as a starting point. Many times questions are asked behind the scenes by the bidders. No mention if it had the correct SCJ trans in it. Some of the "clueless" could be friends of the seller pumping a car up. Gary
Correct SCJ trans? Is that different than the CJ trans?
Quote from: TLea on February 22, 2022, 05:24:29 PM
Correct SCJ trans? Is that different than the CJ trans?
According to Mike Berardi there is. Do you know who Mike is? He says they have a different tag on them. He owns 2 69 sister SCJ coupes. He has had the race car one and just bought the other street car on BaT. Ordered together and delivered together to the dealer. Mike owns a "few" cars and is a retired Ford "worker". He does a lot of his own restos to some degree. https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/quick-look/2020/04/berardi-s-garage-tour.html
With regards to the comments thinking this example was worth much, much more.......
Should that be the case, why did it meet the seller's reserve......? Apparently he thought the last bid was fair.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 22, 2022, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: TLea on February 22, 2022, 05:24:29 PM
According to Mike Berardi there is. Do you know who Mike is? He says they have a different tag on them. He owns 2 69 sister SCJ coupes. He has had the race car one and just bought the other street car on BaT. Ordered together and delivered together to the dealer. Mike owns a "few" cars and is a retired Ford "worker". He does a lot of his own restos to some degree. https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/quick-look/2020/04/berardi-s-garage-tour.html
Señor Mike has a tremendous collection !
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 22, 2022, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: TLea on February 22, 2022, 05:24:29 PM
Correct SCJ trans? Is that different than the CJ trans?
According to Mike Berardi there is. Do you know who Mike is? He says they have a different tag on them. He owns 2 69 sister SCJ coupes. He has had the race car one and just bought the other street car on BaT. Ordered together and delivered together to the dealer. Mike owns a "few" cars and is a retired Ford "worker". He does a lot of his own restos to some degree. https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/quick-look/2020/04/berardi-s-garage-tour.html
Nothing different on SCJ trans from CJ (flywheel and W code reducer not part of trans. Your friend is misinformed. Seems to be a pattern with your friends
Quote from: TLea on February 22, 2022, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 22, 2022, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: TLea on February 22, 2022, 05:24:29 PM
Correct SCJ trans? Is that different than the CJ trans?
According to Mike Berardi there is. Do you know who Mike is? He says they have a different tag on them. He owns 2 69 sister SCJ coupes. He has had the race car one and just bought the other street car on BaT. Ordered together and delivered together to the dealer. Mike owns a "few" cars and is a retired Ford "worker". He does a lot of his own restos to some degree. https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/quick-look/2020/04/berardi-s-garage-tour.html
Nothing different on SCJ trans from CJ (flywheel and W code reducer not part of trans. Your friend is misinformed. Seems to be a pattern with your friends
According to Mike the trans tag is different. I have no reason to think the auto in a SCJ is different than an auto in a CJ. Could be because it got a gear reducer? I sure don't know. But Mike is a sharp guy owning more than a hundred cars and some pretty rare ones. Retired director at Ford. Mike also tracks a couple of late model Mustangs at various events so he "gets his hands dirty". You continue to throw digs at me. It is sad. Many here are seeing it and have commented to me in PMs. Maybe you are so wrapped up in your little clique you think the majority of forum members think you are funny? You are mistaken. Gary
Quote from: oldcanuck on February 22, 2022, 07:22:26 PM
With regards to the comments thinking this example was worth much, much more.......
Should that be the case, why did it meet the seller's reserve......? Apparently he thought the last bid was fair.
+1 2 of my friends who I thought were players one is waiting on another car he wants to purchase and the other said he was taking a step back right now due to world events. He is a one car buyer-not adding to a collection but wants a Shelby. "comments" on that car didn't hold anyone back. Gary
No Gary I'm not throwing digs at you I'm just showing you how dangerous your commenting and posting to be. If you post for example that it has the wrong transmission you essentially degrade the value of the car at the auction site with little and uninformed information.
You also continue to have uninformed information with your personal opinions about what I am trying to achieve or what other people think. I am not a name dropper like you although I know more than one person has reached out to you personally telling you that a lot of people on this forum feel similar towards your posting. I have experienced the same of people that contact me but I digress because it's not about personal it's about honesty knowledge and integrity. So I will not pile on you as you seem to like to do.
I suggest this point you let it go and back off as I'm not interested in getting down in the gutter were you seem to like to play.
Why was this thread closed, it was a lack of one of the two below:
Either it's a lack of the following:
Civility
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Courtesy
1 : the quality or state of being respectful and considerate of others
2 : a polite or generous act or expression