Does anyone have any photos of a 65 gt350 with a hood prop rod? Also looking for a photo of how they retained the prop rod when it was down (keeping it from bouncing around while driving). Thanks
Quote from: SHELBYGT350R on March 26, 2022, 04:03:45 PM
Does anyone have any photos of a 65 gt350 with a hood prop rod? Also looking for a photo of how they retained the prop rod when it was down (keeping it from bouncing around while driving). Thanks
FYI not many 65 GT350's used prop rods compared to ones that did not use them.
I know not many user them, that's why I'm struggling to find photos. But I do know a few did use them.
If Bo doesn't send pics (he has done extensive research on this), I'll post some pics from mine.
Two of my early old 65's had prop rod hoods.
I always thought they borrowed it from a old falcon.
They drilled a hole in the radiator support, give or take about 2-3 inches from the top. maybe 10 inches from edge of the side of the rad support.
That end had a washer and a spring on it.
Went through the support, had another washer then a cotter pin
Draped over the top of the hood latch support with slight pressure bend over it.
then;
Battery side as I recall, they drilled a hole, used about a 2 1/2 inch long fine thread bolt, left head on outside, had a lock nut on that same side, went through rad support then, then inside by where battery should be, depends, a nut with a star type washer, both locked it onto the rad support.
Rod flexed just a bit over lock stand and then you slid it under the bolt end to keep it there.
Should be 95% close, best of my memory
I think # 530 R had the same.
John
Quote from: Rickmustang on March 26, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
If Bo doesn't send pics (he has done extensive research on this), I'll post some pics from mine.
I'd appreciate some photos when you get time. Thanks.
Quote from: Harris Speedster on March 26, 2022, 06:27:22 PM
Two of my early old 65's had prop rod hoods.
I always thought they borrowed it from a old falcon.
They drilled a hole in the radiator support, give or take about 2-3 inches from the top. maybe 10 inches from edge of the side of the rad support.
That end had a washer and a spring on it.
Went through the support, had another washer then a cotter pin
Draped over the top of the hood latch support with slight pressure bend over it.
then;
Battery side as I recall, they drilled a hole, used about a 2 1/2 inch long fine thread bolt, left head on outside, had a lock nut on that same side, went through rad support then, then inside by where battery should be, depends, a nut with a star type washer, both locked it onto the rad support.
Rod flexed just a bit over lock stand and then you slid it under the bolt end to keep it there.
Should be 95% close, best of my memory
I think # 530 R had the same.
John
Thanks for the description, that's helpful. Do you happen to have any pics? Also 5r530 doesn't have a prop rod, I have some hood photos of the car. 5r100 has a prop rod but I can't find any good photos of it showing the prop rod.
Here is a factory picture from 1965. My Prop Rod looks exactly like this one. Please note there is a rubber tip at the end
and behind the radiator support is a red tube, washer and a pin holding it.
Texas Swede
Texas swede,
That should finish the job for shelbygt350 R
350R, I would doubt there was a schematic or rendering of this mod.
I guess the rubber tube served the same purpose as the small spring and washer?
I might check with some Falcon experts and see what they have>>> send the pic Texas swede gave you,
to them, just a thought.?
As it was rare and I think it was done for convenience in my opinion.
Besides the rubber end, guess my memory is still hanging in.
I could have sworn when I looked at 530 in Colorado at Haines place, there was a prop rod in the boxes?
Respectfully,
John
John,
Yes, the red hose piece was there to press against radiator support and there was no spring.
If, I don't recall wrongly, there was another longer prop rod used as well.
Texas Swede
I have one I'm willing to part with. I think it's a reproduction piece, but for hardware I used a spring, a nylon and stainless washer in addition to the cotter/split pin. To make it correct use a piece of red hose. The overall length is 34 1/2"
$75.00+ UPS or USPS shipping. (SOLD)
Side note, I'll be doing some spring cleaning in a couple weeks.
Cheers,
~Earl J
I measured the prop rod on my car and it's 31 inches from rubber tip to the bend straight over with no
additions for the bent parts. My wife asked when I came in from the garage what I had been doing and
I answered, just measured my rod. She looked at me with a very confused face expression.
Texas Swede
Here's 5S114 at Le Mans in period.
Thanks for the photos and replies everyone. All the info is very helpful.
On this same basic topic of hood prop rods;
How many 66 Shelby's are known to have used them ?
How many 67 Shelby's are known to have used them?
Respectfully
John
Just an FYI on my feedback regarding prop rods. Even though the rod I have is a reproduction at 34 1/2" long, I found the hood was annoyingly low. More than four times the rod had slipped and came crashing down even with the rubber tip I put on it.
Bo's (texas swede) original at 31" is even shorter. That, I would find useless.
I resorted to two (one each side) 7" stainless cables with loops on each end (Home Depot) in place of the hood springs location tabs. You can adjust the length and opening height of the hood and it's rock solid. Some guys use a piece of linked chain but those rattle and look out of place. Definitely not original but functional.
Cheers,
~Earl J
Earl, I love always seeing your engine compartment with those webbers. So beautiful...I have a repop rod from Jim thats about 20 years old..dont have the spring hardware like yours..I feel like I should buy yours instead of trying to figure it out in the future..lol..
Sorry, Jimmy someone beat you to it. Hope all is well in SJO. ~Earl
Jbarela,
Are you referring to Big Jim Colwes, as I used to call him ?
If so, he came to my place in Utah for #137.
It had a prop rod hood.
Car was also a special order from Shelby with weird shit, documented.
There is a video of that car because it was so original, had factory markings all over it.
If you bought your prop rod >> from Big Jim, I would highly "assume" it was patterned off that car.
Respectfully,
John
Can the diameter of the prop rod material be confirmed please? Appears to be 1/4" but I'm a firm believer of the "ask and order once not twice" approach! Does anyone have photos of the rod to hood contact point? I'm interested to see if it was bracketed or used an existing recess. Many thanks.
I have 1 off the car 65 233 the rod measures 31 3/4 and is 5/16 in diameter.
DC DD
rubber retainer or washer, spring and clip.
Can't tell from the pic?
John
No rubber on the tip . Might have been originally but nothing now.
As far as where goes into radiator support there are washer /spring/washer and this had cotter pin
My recollection per #41, #137, and # 530 R
washer, spring washer clip.
I am NOT saying that all 65's were the same, just that we have four accounting's now including #233.
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Anybody have pics or have an early 67 with prop rod?
If so, any pics ?
Thanks
John