I have recentlly purchased this 1967 shelby GT 500. I have been trying to get it for years and unfortunatly recently the older geltelman caught his garage on fire and it has been destroyed. I am olanning on rebuilding it. He owned it since 1978 and said it was in the registry if any info is available. I updated it with my info today. shelby vin 67411F4A02531. Any help on finding parts and vin tags apriciated. I ordered the deluxe Marti report today. thankyou for any help.
Sorry to hear about the tragedy but congratulations on your purchase. Welcome to this forum and you have come to the right place for help with your 67 Shelby project. Ask specific questions and answers and opinions should follow. Post in the 67 Shelby section of the forum.
Quote from: sylvestervia on April 12, 2022, 12:53:11 PM
I have recentlly purchased this 1967 shelby GT 500. I have been trying to get it for years and unfortunatly recently the older geltelman caught his garage on fire and it has been destroyed. I am olanning on rebuilding it. He owned it since 1978 and said it was in the registry if any info is available. I updated it with my info today. shelby vin 67411F4A02531. Any help on finding parts and vin tags apriciated. I ordered the deluxe Marti report today. thankyou for any help.
A truly worthy and ambitious endeavour, any chance you can post pictures as the chassis sits today?
Bill
Good luck....
Just remember...
You're not the first.....
Bret
Challenges ahead it seems but take your time before you get start. Make a plan after understanding all the challenges and issues then really, really try to stick to it. Like building houses changes in the plan cost money and effort.
Choices you make at this point will be major issues (good or bad) in moving forward and what the car will be for the rest of its existence most likely. Poor choices will limit your or the next owners choices and possibly value in the future
Good luck
I'm curious as to why you still want to try to bring the car back?
If the car was fully engulfed in the fire the metal is not even worth
Using as a starting point.
You will replace so much that it will basically be a clone. You will spend a fortune trying to build . Plus the car will always have the fire history.
Maybe I am wrong and I am imagining the car as a total loss as it sits.
My suggestion start chasing another car.
Quote from: J_Speegle on April 12, 2022, 04:12:07 PM
Challenges ahead it seems but take your time before you get start. Make a plan after understanding all the challenges and issues then really, really try to stick to it. Like building houses changes in the plan cost money and effort.
Choices you make at this point will be major issues (good or bad) in moving forward and what the car will be for the rest of its existence most likely. Poor choices will limit your or the next owners choices and possibly value in the future
Good luck
That is as good advice as you will ever hear
I want to first thank everyone for thier coments and yes this car is a big challenge for sure. As much as these cars bring this is as close to one as i will ever get. I am very good with metal work as i have been working on Mustangs in south Texas with rust issues for most of my life. i have owned mustangs since my first when i was 16 in 1985.the car had no rust to begin with so frame rails and floor pans are all still intack. biggest thing will be roof and quarters. It may not be a contures show car when I am done but i will be saving it and dont plan on ever selling it. It is my dream car and I will enjoy it hopefully for many years to come. Even if i never get it finished how many people can say they own a real 67 GT 500. lol
Pix of this "crispy critter" please....
Quote from: 557 on April 13, 2022, 10:17:39 AM
Pix of this "crispy critter" please....
Yeah, what he said....
Depends on one's definition of destroyed. Like others, would like to see a picture.
Quote from: sylvestervia on April 13, 2022, 09:56:35 AM
I want to first thank everyone for thier coments and yes this car is a big challenge for sure. As much as these cars bring this is as close to one as i will ever get. I am very good with metal work as i have been working on Mustangs in south Texas with rust issues for most of my life. i have owned mustangs since my first when i was 16 in 1985.the car had no rust to begin with so frame rails and floor pans are all still intack. biggest thing will be roof and quarters. It may not be a contures show car when I am done but i will be saving it and dont plan on ever selling it. It is my dream car and I will enjoy it hopefully for many years to come. Even if i never get it finished how many people can say they own a real 67 GT 500. lol
Glad to see it being saved even if only partially there to start with. Keep the faith . :)
I'm reminded of one of Jim Osborne's cars, a white GT500KR convertible, if my memory doesn't fail me, that caught fire while his son was driving it on the way to a show back in the '90's. Seems the electric top motor shorted out and, before it was discovered, the car became engulfed in flames. It was a total loss but they brought it back from the "dead" to full concours condition. It can be done!
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on April 15, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
I'm reminded of one of Jim Osborne's cars, a white GT500KR convertible, if my memory doesn't fail me, that caught fire while his son was driving it on the way to a show back in the '90's. Seems the electric top motor shorted out and, before it was discovered, the car became engulfed in flames. It was a total loss but they brought it back from the "dead" to full concours condition. It can be done!
Thought that was a 69. Could be mistaken
Coulda been, Jeff. The older I get, the more mistakes I make. :)
Still no picture?
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on April 15, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
I'm reminded of one of Jim Osborne's cars, a white GT500KR convertible, if my memory doesn't fail me, that caught fire while his son was driving it on the way to a show back in the '90's. Seems the electric top motor shorted out and, before it was discovered, the car became engulfed in flames. It was a total loss but they brought it back from the "dead" to full concours condition. It can be done!
Jim's was a 69, there was however a red 68 GT500KR convertible with a similar story. I believe sold at auction if memory serves me correctly and then properly treated, then restored several years ago. May even had an article in the SAAC quarterly....
Bill
Before and after of Jim and Sue's '69 GT500.
OK, now that we have a different car with the exception of where is the car now, straightened out.....
back to the car of topic, we still have no pictures? Is the car of topic already "Fixed"? Or re-bodied?
If I remember correctly a burned up metal car weakens and thins out the metal, would you really want to drive a car like that?
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 16, 2022, 12:24:21 PM
OK, now that we have a different car with the exception of where is the car now, straightened out.....
back to the car of topic, we still have no pictures? Is the car of topic already "Fixed"? Or re-bodied?
If I remember correctly a burned up metal car weakens and thins out the metal, would you really want to drive a car like that?
Additional damage to the metal is often done when quenching of the metal quickly by the application of water at the scene. As I understand it makes the metal more brittle.
On the other issue. Would not expect pictures to be shared by the owner publicly. Why would they and how would that benefit them?
Quote from: J_Speegle on April 16, 2022, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 16, 2022, 12:24:21 PM
OK, now that we have a different car with the exception of where is the car now, straightened out.....
back to the car of topic, we still have no pictures? Is the car of topic already "Fixed"? Or re-bodied?
If I remember correctly a burned up metal car weakens and thins out the metal, would you really want to drive a car like that?
Additional damage to the metal is often done when quenching of the metal quickly by the application of water at the scene. As I understand it makes the metal more brittle.
On the other issue. Would not expect pictures to be shared by the owner publicly. Why would they and how would that benefit them?
True about sharing pictures.....I am just wondering why even open up this forum? It can open up a can of worms.
Show us...
Pics would document this stage of the cars history,so....
Quote from: 65KGT on April 16, 2022, 10:47:08 AM
Before and after of Jim and Sue's '69 GT500.
I sold Jim Osborn's car. It went to a guy in Michigan. This was back when Osborn was alive and he owned the car. My understanding was that it caught fire on the way to an MCA national show in Tennessee years prior.
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on April 16, 2022, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 16, 2022, 12:24:21 PM
OK, now that we have a different car with the exception of where is the car now, straightened out.....
back to the car of topic, we still have no pictures? Is the car of topic already "Fixed"? Or re-bodied?
If I remember correctly a burned up metal car weakens and thins out the metal, would you really want to drive a car like that?
Additional damage to the metal is often done when quenching of the metal quickly by the application of water at the scene. As I understand it makes the metal more brittle.
On the other issue. Would not expect pictures to be shared by the owner publicly. Why would they and how would that benefit them?
True about sharing pictures.....I am just wondering why even open up this forum? It can open up a can of worms.
. "Opening up a can of worms"would only be an issue if you were trying to conceal this part of the cars history as far as I can see,which would be a bad thing.....
You might want to do an internet "search" for "Graveyard cars". They do a lot of U-tube stuff. They rebuilt a big block 'cuda that was in a fire. Yep', they specialize in Mopars but the information would be the same.
Really depends on how bad the fire was.
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on April 15, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
I'm reminded of one of Jim Osborne's cars, a white GT500KR convertible, if my memory doesn't fail me, that caught fire while his son was driving it on the way to a show back in the '90's. Seems the electric top motor shorted out and, before it was discovered, the car became engulfed in flames. It was a total loss but they brought it back from the "dead" to full concours condition. It can be done!
That exactly entered my mind as well. Being from the south here, I remember that very well.