In my never ending quest to research 0100's history, I acquired this photo a couple of nights ago. The photo was taken by Bob D'Olivo for Motor Trend magazine on Monday, 12/12/66. I was definitely surprised to see what appears to be the engine oil filter with an oil pressure line attached to it remotely mounted in the driver's side front wheel well!!!
Interesting picture, thanks for sharing
Is there still evidence of items having been installed there?
Quote from: JD on May 19, 2022, 01:23:23 PM
Is there still evidence of items having been installed there?
Hello JD,
I have never looked, and since the car's nose section was replaced with '68 fiberglass by Shelby Automotive, I am not sure what would still be there.
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on May 19, 2022, 01:00:32 PM
In my never ending quest to research 0100's history, I acquired this photo a couple of nights ago. The photo was taken by Bob D'Olivo for Motor Trend magazine on Monday, 12/12/66. I was definitely surprised to see what appears to be the engine oil filter with an oil pressure line attached to it remotely mounted in the driver's side front wheel well!!!
I have seen Vacuum Canisters in that time period that look just like that as well.
Quote from: tesgt350 on May 19, 2022, 02:59:25 PM
I have seen Vacuum Canisters in that time period that look just like that as well.
First thing I thought of when I saw the location (wheel well) though don't recall any commercially available ones with a double crimped end
My first thought is how odd to mount the remote oil filter bracket sideways. There would not be any changing of filter in that position without a big mess. Another odd thing and signs of initial prototype status and development is apparent brazing of a fitting bung to the filter body so a mechanical gauge pressure line could be attached. Given it's first status in GT500 production with factory A/C system and the GT500 only engine oil cooler suggests that remote filter status seen in the picture had something to do with that is my guess. The system most likely started out with a similar type of oil block adapter ,remote filter adapter/bracket and oil line plumbing as the the 427 SC. I am guessing that this setup was seen as the labor and logistic disaster I can envision it looked like in my mind and the the regular production oil filter donut/oil cooler line adapter was quickly developed and added to the stock oil filter block adapter. That and because the donut added to the the stock block adapter made the regular oil filter hang down farther that the already in use Fram short oil filter used on the 427 street Cobras was also employed.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 19, 2022, 04:41:03 PM
My first thought is how odd to mount the remote oil filter bracket sideways. There would not be any changing of filter in that position without a big mess. Another odd thing and signs of initial prototype status and development is apparent brazing of a fitting bung to the filter body so a mechanical gauge pressure line could be attached. Given it's first status in GT500 production with factory A/C system and the GT500 only engine oil cooler suggests that remote filter status seen in the picture had something to do with that is my guess. The system most likely started out with a similar type of oil block adapter ,remote filter adapter/bracket and oil line plumbing as the the 427 SC. I am guessing that this setup was seen as the labor and logistic disaster I can envision it looked like in my mind and the the regular production oil filter donut/oil cooler line adapter was quickly developed and added to the stock oil filter block adapter. That and because the donut added to the the stock block adapter made the regular oil filter hang down farther that the already in use Fram short oil filter used on the 427 street Cobras was also employed.
Bob,
Thanks. Very well explained and that is exactly what I believe the photo indicates took place with 0100. During the Car and Driver and Road & Track road tests, which I believe took place in November of 1966, it became obvious the car had overheating issues and something needed to be done. The changes made to 0100 started right after the Car and Driver road test. The photos that I have show the following progression of changes leading up to the Sports Car Graphic road test whose photos are dated 12/09/66 and the Motor Trend photos which are dated 12/12/66.
1. Car and Driver road test: the car has no radiator support to hood seal and it has its front license plate installed. A high resolution interior photo that I have shows an engine oil temperature gauge mounted just to the right of the standard Shelby under dash gauge pod.
2. Road & Track road test: the front license plate has been removed in order to increase airflow through the lower portion of the radiator; and second, a radiator support to hood seal has been installed to try and keep the airflow from spilling up and over the radiator.
3. Sports Car Graphic road test: the photos show an engine oil cooler has been installed in the upper grille opening on the passenger side (but the engine oil temp gauge has been removed from under the dash). One can see engine oil lines zip tied alongside the driver's side strut rod support. The second change is that light gauge sheet metal or aluminum "ducting" has been added to the driver's side of the radiator opening to direct air through the radiator.
4. Motor Trend photos: apparently shows the engine oil filter has been remote mounted in the driver's side front wheel well to facilitate the plumbing of the engine oil lines from engine to filter to cooler and back to engine. This would have been completed prior to 12/09/66 for the Sports Car Graphic road test.
Thanks,
Eric
I don't believe that is a spin-on engine oil filter canister, rather I believe it to be a canister made of aluminum, showing aluminum welding for the bung in the end and an aluminum mounting plate attached, this which I'd venture for being maybe the AC receiver/drier on the H.P. side considering its' size, but instead could be the filter/accumulator on the L.P. side but I think it might be to small for this? :-\
But then, I'm not an AC guy, so what do I know? ::)
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on May 19, 2022, 06:33:24 PM
I don't believe that is a spin-on engine oil filter canister, rather I believe it to be a canister made of aluminum, showing aluminum welding for the bung in the end and an aluminum mounting plate attached, this which I'd venture for being maybe the AC receiver/drier on the H.P. side considering its' size, but instead could be the filter/accumulator on the L.P. side but I think it might be to small for this? :-\
But then, I'm not an AC guy, so what do I know? ::)
Scott.
Scott,the double crimped ends seen in the picture are typical of the spin on Ford filters of the period. I figured the bung was ether soldered or brazed given the thin metal but just a guess given the filter type. There was no reason to move the A/C dryer from the stock location .Same goes for the filter/accumulator on the LP side. Change to the dryer location would also bring change to the hoses between the dryer and condenser and discharge hose. That would not seem practical for a regular production car. Nether was in the way of the oil filter or cooler lines because the filter and oil hose lines were down low and the AC lines were up high. Given the things that ended up being changed on a air 67 GT500 gives clues to what it probably is. Although probable IMO still just a educated guess on my part.
No real reason, that I can think of, to mess with the AC stuff. They had been building big blocks with AC for some time before this car was built and supplied to Shelby. If added to this body they would only need to copy what had already been designed, tested and used on similar applications in the Mustang line
As for being the oil filter guess its way to late to look for mount and oil line pass through holes in the surrounding sheet metal
I hope to have a better version of this photo soon, but I thought I would post this version now while this discussion is ongoing. This is another photo that was taken of 0100 on 12/12/66 by Bob D'Olivo for Motor Trend magazine. Finally, a photo that shows a little more detail of the engine oil cooler which has been installed in the upper grille opening on the passenger side. I have also attached a cropped down version of the photo that zeros in on the engine oil cooler. It appears that some light gauge metal ducting has been attached to the top of the grille and goes rearward to the top of the cooler.
I wonder if the bung was to check the oil temp as it came out of the engine - maybe another one at the exit of the cooler? Or..... for a gauge to check pressure drop on the enlarged system?
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on May 19, 2022, 09:01:58 PM
I hope to have a better version of this photo soon, but I thought I would post this version now while this discussion is ongoing. This is another photo that was taken of 0100 on 12/12/66 by Bob D'Olivo for Motor Trend magazine. ............
Thanks. Washer bag is mounted high on the inner fender apron. Wonder if this was done to clear an area for the lines to run to what ever it was in the wheel well.
This is I believe to be 0100 from the Car & Driver test, just for interest.
Mike
The oil cooler looks just like a transam boss 302 one that they used it, was made by Harrison and I believe they came out of helicopters.
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on May 19, 2022, 10:48:55 PM
The oil cooler looks just like a transam boss 302 one that they used it, was made by Harrison and I believe they came out of helicopters.
Roy
Here are a couple of photos of the engine oil cooler currently installed on 0100. I did not go so far as to cut the grille for one of the lines, but I think what is there looks pretty close. It will look even closer if I add the light gauge metal ducting from the top of the grille back to the cooler.
Eric
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 19, 2022, 09:33:42 PM
I wonder if the bung was to check the oil temp as it came out of the engine - maybe another one at the exit of the cooler? Or..... for a gauge to check pressure drop on the enlarged system?
Now that you mention it the shape of what is coming out of the filter upon reexamination looks like it could be a thermocouple shape rather then a oil pressure hex shaped fitting. I was puzzled before when contemplating this odd set up because the 427 SC oil feed lines block adapter ( that was most likely used) has a provision for a oil pressure fitting which would eliminated the need for the odd set up on the filter in the picture if that was what it was for. Also with the oil pressure line run from the SC block adapter the oil line could take the regular production path to the gauge . If the line seen coming out of the oil filter was a thermocouple used for temperature gauge readings it would all make more sense especially since Eric has confirmed from pictures of a oil temp gauge mounted between the oil pressure/amp gauge .
Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 19, 2022, 11:33:03 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 19, 2022, 09:33:42 PM
I wonder if the bung was to check the oil temp as it came out of the engine - maybe another one at the exit of the cooler? Or..... for a gauge to check pressure drop on the enlarged system?
Now that you mention it the shape of what is coming out of the filter upon reexamination looks like it could be a thermocouple shape rather then a oil pressure hex shaped fitting. I was puzzled before when contemplating this odd set up because the 427 SC oil feed lines block adapter ( that was most likely used) has a provision for a oil pressure fitting which would eliminated the need for the odd set up on the filter in the picture if that was what it was for. Also with the oil pressure line run from the SC block adapter the oil line could take the regular production path to the gauge . If the line seen coming out of the oil filter was a thermocouple used for temperature gauge readings it would all make more sense especially since Eric has confirmed from pictures of a oil temp gauge mounted between the oil pressure/amp gauge .
Hello Bob,
There first photo was taken by Pete Biro for the Car and Driver road test, which I believe took place in November. It shows a single mount engine oil temperature gauge mounted under the dash to the right side of the standard Shelby gauge pod. Look carefully and you can see the mounting bracket and the right side of the gauge bezel. There was no engine oil cooler installed on the car at this time.
The second photo was taken by Bob D'Olivo on 12/12/66 for Motor Trend magazine. The engine oil temperature gauge is no longer present. So, it seems that once the engine oil cooler was installed they apparently believed the driver no longer needed to monitor engine oil temperature.
Eric
Photo of engine in Reply #11 lightened some...
These are most likely the parts that SAI had "on the shelf" and were used for this unique and probably short lived setup. The oil filter mount and engine block adapter on the left is from a 427 S/C Cobra. The engine block adapter on the right is from a GT40 MKII. Either block adapter could have been used.
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on May 22, 2022, 06:26:18 PM
These are most likely the parts that SAI had "on the shelf" and were used for this unique and probably short lived setup. The oil filter mount and engine block adapter on the left is from a 427 S/C Cobra. The engine block adapter on the right is from a GT40 MKII. Either block adapter could have been used.
yes but the SC version on the left has a provision for a oil pressure fitting which was needed for the oil pressure gauge.