Link: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-shelby-mustang-gt350h/
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Description:
This 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350H is one of approximately 1,000 examples produced as part of a partnership between Ford and the Hertz rental-car company. According to the SAAC registry, the car was shipped in January 1966 to Horn-Williams Ford Motor Co. of Dallas, Texas, for dealer preparation prior to delivery to Hertz in Dallas. The first private owner bought the car in Texas in 1967, and it was acquired by the seller out of Wisconsin in 2005. The car was initially refurbished and modified by a previous owner in Texas in the 1970s, with work said to have included an exterior color changes and replacement of the powertrain. A subsequent refurbishment was carried out in the mid-1990s by Shelby Parts and Restoration of Green Bay, Wisconsin. Its 302ci V8 is paired with a four-speed manual transmission, and additional equipment includes front disc brakes, 15″ Torq Thrust-style wheels, a fold-down rear seat, and a Kenwood cassette stereo. This GT350H is now offered in California with a serial number verification document from the SAAC, copies of 1966 delivery paperwork, and a clean Arizona title in the seller's name.
The body is believed to have been finished from the factory in black, the car was refinished in Wimbledon White with blue Le Mans stripes and side stripes during prior ownership. Features unique to Shelby Mustangs include a steel-framed fiberglass hood with a scoop, hood pins, plexiglass rear quarter windows, fiberglass brake-cooling scoops on the rear fenders, and a bullet-style side mirror.
Torq Thrust-style 15" wheels were installed during prior ownership and are fitted with 225/60 BFGoodrich tires mounted in November 2021. Front disc brakes were standard on GT350 models, as were larger rear drum brakes than those used on standard Mustang models.
The cabin features front bucket seats and a folding rear bench trimmed in black vinyl. Equipment includes latch-and-link harnesses for the front occupants, manually-operated side windows, and a Kenwood cassette stereo.
The three-spoke steering wheel wears a Cobra GT350 badge and frames a 140-mph speedometer flanked by gauges for fuel level, oil pressure, coolant temperature, and battery voltage. A Cobra-branded tachometer is mounted on top of the dash. The five-digit odometer shows 34k miles, approximately 3,400 of which were added by the seller. True mileage is unknown.
The replacement 302ci V8 is said to be equipped with 351 Windsor-sourced cylinder heads and breathes through an aftermarket four-barrel carburetor, and the engine bay is fitted with an export brace and a cross bar. An oil change was completed in November 2021.
Power is delivered to the rear wheels through a four-speed manual transmission that was installed in place of the factory automatic transmission under prior ownership. Additional underside photos are provided in the gallery and show surfaces coated in red oxide primer as well as the drivetrain, exhaust system, and suspension.
The Ford serial number ........ is stamped beneath the reproduction Shelby serial number tag and corresponds to a 1966 K-code Mustang. The serial number SFM6S694 is listed as the VIN on the Arizona title.
Shelby American Automobile Club correspondence indicates that the serial number SFM6S694 aligns with a Shelby serial number recorded in their files. The seller states that the Ford serial number referenced in the letter above is the same number shown stamped on the inner fenders. Also shown in the gallery is a copy of the January 1966 order sheet for Hertz Corporation that lists standard and optional equipment as well as a total price of $3,797.
Thanks Brian. One again a published ford VIN. I'll send seller a message
Cheers
Well, this will be a very interesting auction. Check out the passenger Shelby VIN.
I remember this Shelby in July of 2005 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Registry is an odd read concerning the Shelby tag. I remember reading that registry a year or so ago and noting it
QuoteThanks Brian. One again a published ford VIN. I'll send seller a message
You're probably fighting a loosing battle. The uninformed people over there are demanding pictures of every hidden VIN they can get their hands on. "It makes the cars more valuable" according to them.
Unless BaT addresses the issues it will likely continue.
Its kind of odd its always the same half dozen people asking for the numbers in every auction, when they have no intention of buying the cars
I've never understood the secrecy issue about Shelby VINs. They are on the title, and many people want to search for the VIN for more history on the cars. I guess everyone is concerned about fakes?
That is correct. I dont think anyone wants to buy a fake and pay Shelby money for it. It also makes it easier to extrapolate missing information and create cars and histories
The more the numbers are in circulation the harder it is to authenticate the original cars.
There are a lot of people willing to help authenticate cars, but a certain number of people think everything will just be handed to them and they can just write a check
There is no doubt in my mind the "secrecy" has protected the original cars and prevented a lot of fake cars from appearing and identifying the fakes more quickly.
Quote from: Coralsnake on July 17, 2022, 09:46:45 AM
That is correct. I dont think anyone wants to buy a fake and pay Shelby money for it. It also makes it easier to extrapolate missing information and create cars and histories
The more the numbers are in circulation the harder it is to authenticate the original cars.
There are a lot of people willing to help authenticate cars, but a certain number of people think everything will just be handed to them and they can just write a check
There is no doubt in my mind the "secrecy" has protected the original cars and prevented a lot of fake cars from appearing and identifying the fakes more quickly.
+1
The problem is not unique to Shelbys. Other makes and models have the same issues. The limited numbers of Shelbys And the diligence of SAAC has allowed the information to be managed better
Slap me on the @$$ and call me Sally, BaT removed the numbers.
Lets recognize that! Winning. Well done gentlemen
A private message will accomplish the same thing if a buyer really thinks those things are important. No sense making it easier for the fakers and cheaters.
The cars I specialize in, big tank C2 Corvettes, have had some issues with fakes, but our registry, which I help maintain, keeps people honest, and since they only made a few dozen each year (and only 2 in 1967), it is a small club and almost impossible to fake, as the build characteristics are very distinctive and most are well documented and known. The VINS are really not distinctive, except the '63s which were made in batches. so that is never an issue to hide.
IMO, There may be a good reason the seller posted the Ford VINS. Watch the auction and comments closely.
you all miss the point the hidden mumbers (the original ford vin) you can register and title the car with the ford vin. i have titles for both vins so the car can be traced either way. this is only true for 65 66 67 cars. scoops
Old Phart requested the Shelby stamped VIN on the passenger apron, yet no pictures? Will that clarify some of it's history?
Sold for 145k plus buyers fee
Strong market
$150K all in. It's a great market for Shelbys, no matter the past history.
Don't forget to account for those suffering from the B.A.T. bid syndrome! ::)
Yesterday I was watching a 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA close; well yes, it was a "nice one", not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, yes, you'll pay extra for an NADA model, BUT!...............$80,000.00 bid! Yes folks, that's eighty thousand, for a 'nice' old Land Rover! :o
I was at MECUM couple of weeks ago, and a 1969 Torino "H" code w/ automatic, O.K. condition aka. "a nice driver" (definitely looked better in pictures than in real life! :o ) sold at $66.000!
This is what is happening; so I guess it qualifies as the current market values? :-\
Scott.
So the car market hasn't completely rolled over yet.
Just wait, it will. I already see signs of it happening. First the stock market, then cryptos, now real estate is rolling over and the car market will follow shortly. The everything bubble is bursting........ just like the Great Recession and Dot Com, it doesn't happen over night. It takes months or even a year or two for it to all go down. The bubble doesn't actually "burst", it just deflates of over a period of time. When you look at it in hindsight, it just appears to burst.
The Doom and gloom guy.
QSS
^^^ +1.
Agree. An astute observation. Not doom and gloom but rather a truth bomb of the highest order. But will that be enough to motivate me to sell the Shelby or Boss 302 for that matter? Hell no! Don't care if either of them withers away to nothing.
I'm committed to the end barring some unforeseen circumstance like a club to the head that makes me start hating collector cars and more specifically Shelby Mustangs or Boss 302s.
Paid $6k for mine(in 82) .I think I'll be o.k.... 8)
Quote from: 557 on July 25, 2022, 03:44:30 AM
Paid $6k for mine(in 82) .I think I'll be o.k.... 8)
Just remember '82 was forty years ago! If 'properly' invested then, and managed profitably until today (to bad you couldn't get investment tips from Nancy Pelosi ::) ), where would you be in monetary value now? ???
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on July 25, 2022, 12:28:51 PM
Just remember '82 was forty years ago! If 'properly' invested then, and managed profitably until today (to bad you couldn't get investment tips from Nancy Pelosi ::) ), where would you be in monetary value now? ???
$6k invested in Apple stock in 1982 would be worth $1.3M today... but he couldn't have drove his stock :) :) :)
Quote from: CharlesTurner on July 25, 2022, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on July 25, 2022, 12:28:51 PM
Just remember '82 was forty years ago! If 'properly' invested then, and managed profitably until today (to bad you couldn't get investment tips from Nancy Pelosi ::) ), where would you be in monetary value now? ???
$6k invested in Apple stock in 1982 would be worth $1.3M today... but he couldn't have drove his stock :) :) :)
Or done both. Bought the stock and got a loan on the Shelby or vice versa. Have it all!