7/22/2020
Within a month or so I will be building a 428 for my tribute car. The question is, what cam to order?
the criteria:
428 CJ block. Stock stroke Scat crank, H beam rods, Trick Flow aluminum heads, Harlan sharp roller rocker are shafts. Forged 10:1 pistons
Single 4 bbl Fuel injection carb. This does not have to be the fastest car in town. Smooth idle desired. The car has power brakes so vacuum to run that. Likely 3:50 or 3:77 rear gears with automatic trans.
The easy thing would be to run the 67 GT 390 cam like Tasca Ford used back then, BUT, I'd like to use a roller cam.
So, any advice will be welcome. Thanks
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
Go to the FE forum and ask Brent Lykins Motorsports. The best.
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 23, 2022, 08:18:58 AM
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
+1
I realize times are changing, and perhaps additional input into the decision making process even if it is from cybe-space isn't necessarily all bad, but some guys cam recommendation over an internet forum seems to boarder on presumptuous behavior by the one making recommendations, who although may be familiar with the type of engine at hand, but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user. :-\
Scott.
there was at one time a fe cam available from ford motorsports there was only 1 in 90s . I think specs were in catalog / i ran this cam in about 4 different cars . it was good idle sounded good and ran well with power brake cars .
Quote from: pbf777 on July 23, 2022, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 23, 2022, 08:18:58 AM
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
+1
I realize times are changing, and perhaps additional input into the decision making process even if it is from cybe-space isn't necessarily all bad, but some guys cam recommendation over an internet forum seems to boarder on presumptuous behavior by the one making recommendations, who although may be familiar with the type of engine at hand, but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user. :-\
Scott.
I have found that you can't recommend a cam. There is different interpretation of what is meant by various criteria such as "good idle".
If those terms could be standardized, then there would be hope but there is no way that there is a 289 cam that will make it into a 427.
It's just best to stay completely out of the issue. People are violent these days. They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions.
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 24, 2022, 09:42:11 AM
They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions.
I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but if one happens to knock on my door in such a fashion,..........well, lets' just say I have my own, and I know how to communicate! :o
And I believe a little more of societal self correcting, rather than political correctness, and other current trend selfish behaviors might right the ship! ::)
Scott.
You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.
You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod.
Maybe, and schit happens, but most nut-jobs really don't plan things out, and they're most often not that good. ::)
Now, speaking of "afar", I think the .308 cal. is a popular choice; but for me, with some study on the subject (or maybe because I just have to be different ::) ) I had a Ruger No.1 chambered for .378 Weatherby so I had it re-barreled to .30-378 cal., of a 30" length and mounted a 24X x 50MM (30mm tube) optics. I fancy the .30 cal. as it proven itself and there are many iterations available, but probably mostly because I have lots of the WWII tungsten carbide core A.P. projectiles; though not so accurate at distance do provide superior penetration, particularly of hardened targets!
Sorry for hijacking the thread; so lets' return to the O.P.' s topic of needs of a cam for his 428. :)
And since I have participated in running this thread off-course; if the O.P. would like to call me and discuss this:
Quote from: pbf777 on July 23, 2022, 03:09:47 PM
.............. but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user.
I would attempt to aid him in providing another perspective on what might be appropriate for his intentions. :)
Scott.
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Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 25, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.
Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 23, 2022, 08:18:58 AM
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
Gota say the first suggestion still seems to be the soundest
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 25, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.
Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.
8)
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 25, 2022, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 25, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: crossboss on July 25, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.
Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.
8)
S.D. if they only knew...
Lookout for her. She's nasty.
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 26, 2022, 07:15:28 AM
Lookout for her. She's nasty.
shelbydoug
You need to seek help. You hijack the threads with comments of violence and death like these:
"Iranian's have nothing to do with it. Romans had an opinion on everyone. If they didn't like you, you got crucified.
Actually, that's incorrect. It wasn't Iran then. It was Persia, but no problem. We'll crucify you anyway, just for the Hell of it. Those troops needed to be kept busy. There was only so much burning, looting and raping you could do.
Not quite the same thing as a military excavation exercise."
"I have found that you can't recommend a cam. There is different interpretation of what is meant by various criteria such as "good idle".
If those terms could be standardized, then there would be hope but there is no way that there is a 289 cam that will make it into a 427.
It's just best to stay completely out of the issue. People are violent these days. They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions."
"You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.
You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod."
You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.
"You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod."
"Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach."
"This is how it looks to me also. The CEO looks more like a suicide/murder pact leader then anything else.
It's one thing to have "vision". It's an entirely different thing to lead the company into a desert mirage."
Quote from: roddster on July 22, 2022, 07:33:47 PM
7/22/2020
Within a month or so I will be building a 428 for my tribute car. The question is, what cam to order?
the criteria:
428 CJ block. Stock stroke Scat crank, H beam rods, Trick Flow aluminum heads, Harlan sharp roller rocker are shafts. Forged 10:1 pistons
Single 4 bbl Fuel injection carb. This does not have to be the fastest car in town. Smooth idle desired. The car has power brakes so vacuum to run that. Likely 3:50 or 3:77 rear gears with automatic trans.
The easy thing would be to run the 67 GT 390 cam like Tasca Ford used back then, BUT, I'd like to use a roller cam.
So, any advice will be welcome. Thanks
I would still talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
Quote from: crossboss on July 27, 2022, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 26, 2022, 07:15:28 AM
Lookout for her. She's nasty.
shelbydoug
You need to seek help. You hijack the threads with comments of violence and death like these:
"Iranian's have nothing to do with it. Romans had an opinion on everyone. If they didn't like you, you got crucified.
Actually, that's incorrect. It wasn't Iran then. It was Persia, but no problem. We'll crucify you anyway, just for the Hell of it. Those troops needed to be kept busy. There was only so much burning, looting and raping you could do.
Not quite the same thing as a military excavation exercise."
"I have found that you can't recommend a cam. There is different interpretation of what is meant by various criteria such as "good idle".
If those terms could be standardized, then there would be hope but there is no way that there is a 289 cam that will make it into a 427.
It's just best to stay completely out of the issue. People are violent these days. They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions."
"You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.
You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod."
You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.
"You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod."
"Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach."
"This is how it looks to me also. The CEO looks more like a suicide/murder pact leader then anything else.
It's one thing to have "vision". It's an entirely different thing to lead the company into a desert mirage."
Hum? With a post like this it is obvious I'm not the one who needs help but I'm not going to debate it. Believe what you want. Discipline others to your own twisted perversions of reality. You will regardless of what reality is. A pity for sure.
Listen to me, I would still talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants