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Title: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 68krrrr on August 10, 2022, 12:07:42 AM
You don't see these  every day
https://www.cars-on-line.com/gen3-cars/col1/posting/108000
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: rcgt350 on August 10, 2022, 01:01:42 AM
Should the shock towers not have the welded washers on top?
Rad hose clamps?
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 427hunter on August 10, 2022, 01:49:21 AM
Quote from: rcgt350 on August 10, 2022, 01:01:42 AM
Should the shock towers not have the welded washers on top?
Rad hose clamps?

1967, no Koni's, no washers, no drop.

Yes, the hose clams are wrong.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Kent on August 10, 2022, 03:19:24 AM
On some 67 there were washers on some not. We already had this in a thread.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 427hunter on August 10, 2022, 03:34:13 AM
Quote from: Kent on August 10, 2022, 03:19:24 AM
On some 67 there were washers on some not. We already had this in a thread.

The unrestored 67's I've seen have lacked the washers on the beehives, I wonder how often they are added during restoration. I see no point for them without the suspension mods but who knows maybe some got them.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 10, 2022, 08:05:29 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on August 10, 2022, 03:34:13 AM
Quote from: Kent on August 10, 2022, 03:19:24 AM
On some 67 there were washers on some not. We already had this in a thread.

The unrestored 67's I've seen have lacked the washers on the beehives, I wonder how often they are added during restoration. I see no point for them without the suspension mods but who knows maybe some got them.
If you are implying that no 67's got them because the unrestored 67's you have seen didn't have them then you are mistaken. Many 67 Shelby's got them. FYI the reinforced beehive (upper shock bracket) were meant  to be used (part of the basic specifications) on all 1965-70 Shelby's not just 1967. 66 and 67 saw a number of interruptions in usage .Why there was a interruption in usage is still unsure. How important they were as a Shelby modification is debatable.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Coralsnake on August 10, 2022, 08:22:17 AM
I appreciate how owners like to cherry pick pricing information.

:o
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 10, 2022, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 10, 2022, 08:22:17 AM
I appreciate how owners like to cherry pick pricing information.

:o
Not only that the owner says most of those (440K?) restorations had much higher mileage, more owners and older restos. HUH? That car's resto is over 20 years old(still looks great in pics). I just saw a much more recent Brown resto sell for 295K in nightmist(we all pretty much did).  ::)
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 10, 2022, 09:52:42 AM
Its always the guys who have only ever had one car to sell who snort the coke before listing their car...this specific seller actually put this car on a facebook group I follow called "Wholesale Car Club". I follow the group mostly for the comedic value. The 67 was listed for this same price and I about fell out of my chair laughing.  Its about 2x of "wholesale" if such a thing even existed on these cars.

Vern
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: FL SAAC on August 10, 2022, 10:03:23 AM
Nice car
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 557 on August 10, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Would love to see what that color combo would look like without lemans stripes.Never seen one.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 10, 2022, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: 557 on August 10, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Would love to see what that color combo would look like without lemans stripes.Never seen one.
Easily lost in a snow storm.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 427hunter on August 10, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 10, 2022, 08:05:29 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on August 10, 2022, 03:34:13 AM
Quote from: Kent on August 10, 2022, 03:19:24 AM
On some 67 there were washers on some not. We already had this in a thread.

The unrestored 67's I've seen have lacked the washers on the beehives, I wonder how often they are added during restoration. I see no point for them without the suspension mods but who knows maybe some got them.
If you are implying that no 67's got them because the unrestored 67's you have seen didn't have them then you are mistaken. Many 67 Shelby's got them. FYI the reinforced beehive (upper shock bracket) were meant  to be used (part of the basic specifications) on all 1965-70 Shelby's not just 1967. 66 and 67 saw a number of interruptions in usage .Why there was a interruption in usage is still unsure. How important they were as a Shelby modification is debatable.


Hi Bob, that's just what I've seen, I am sure you have seen more.
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Coralsnake on August 10, 2022, 01:37:16 PM
Its a nice looking car, however...

Its also not really a fair comparison to compare a 2002 restoration to a newer restoration. That point seems to have escaped the seller as well.

If someone did pay $200,000 for the restoration, I feel a bit sorry for them. Thats the equivalent of almost $330,000 today. If it was a really nice car to start with, someone got robbed. Just my opinion, there seems to be some inconsistencies...
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: honker on August 10, 2022, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: 557 on August 10, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Would love to see what that color combo would look like without lemans stripes.Never seen one.

Don't want to go off topic  ;) 

but here you are ! #1320

Mike
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: capecodmustang.com on August 10, 2022, 03:09:57 PM
I just sold # 1313 ...
White on parchment...
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: rcgt350 on August 11, 2022, 12:30:19 AM
My car(0031) has the welded on washers in the shock towers, they weren't added, factory original
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: 427hunter on August 11, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: rcgt350 on August 11, 2022, 12:30:19 AM
My car(0031) has the welded on washers in the shock towers, they weren't added, factory original


Maybe it's an early vs late thing or who knows, if Bob said some had them then some had them. The original cars I have seen did not have them but that a limited number of original cars in my wheelhouse. I had always assumed that as SA stopped doing the suspension mods that the washer stopped being used. The later 66 cars lost the drop, over-rides, etc, so in 1967 the change to be more about looks then racing was already well under way. 
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 11, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
Whether it was useful or not that mod continued on in 68 and 69(70).
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 11, 2022, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on August 11, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: rcgt350 on August 11, 2022, 12:30:19 AM
My car(0031) has the welded on washers in the shock towers, they weren't added, factory original


Maybe it's an early vs late thing or who knows, if Bob said some had them then some had them. The original cars I have seen did not have them but that a limited number of original cars in my wheelhouse. I had always assumed that as SA stopped doing the suspension mods that the washer stopped being used. The later 66 cars lost the drop, over-rides, etc, so in 1967 the change to be more about looks then racing was already well under way.

Trying to not go way off topic when this has been discussed in other threads....but it would be highly unusual to not have washers on an early 67. Ive never seen an early car which was reasonably "un-messed-with" which didnt have the washers.  Likewise (and I accept that this is controversial) but id consider it unusual to see washers on a mid production or later production 67. Every reasonably original, undisturbed mid and late production 67 ive ever had has lacked the washers.

That said, every car was "supposed" to get them. Clearly, many didn't. In fact, I'd say the majority likely didn't in 67. Adding the washers to a car that doesn't have them is sort of a "no harm no foul" sort of thing in my mind.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: White on Parchment Gt500 1967
Post by: George Schalk on August 11, 2022, 04:11:11 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on August 11, 2022, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on August 11, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: rcgt350 on August 11, 2022, 12:30:19 AM
My car(0031) has the welded on washers in the shock towers, they weren't added, factory original


Maybe it's an early vs late thing or who knows, if Bob said some had them then some had them. The original cars I have seen did not have them but that a limited number of original cars in my wheelhouse. I had always assumed that as SA stopped doing the suspension mods that the washer stopped being used. The later 66 cars lost the drop, over-rides, etc, so in 1967 the change to be more about looks then racing was already well under way.

Trying to not go way off topic when this has been discussed in other threads....but it would be highly unusual to not have washers on an early 67. Ive never seen an early car which was reasonably "un-messed-with" which didnt have the washers.  Likewise (and I accept that this is controversial) but id consider it unusual to see washers on a mid production or later production 67. Every reasonably original, undisturbed mid and late production 67 ive ever had has lacked the washers.

That said, every car was "supposed" to get them. Clearly, many didn't. In fact, I'd say the majority likely didn't in 67. Adding the washers to a car that doesn't have them is sort of a "no harm no foul" sort of thing in my mind.

Kind regards,
Vern
Hey Vern, interesting observation and point of view about the shock tower caps (beehives), which your statements seem very similar to what I was trying to convey in a past post about the shock caps.  At least I'm not the only Shelby enthusiast with these controversial thoughts!!