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Title: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: BGlover67 on January 21, 2018, 12:32:24 PM
Does anyone else find it interesting that there seems to have been no 1967's for sale at both Barrett Jackson and Mecum auctions this January?  Perhaps 1967's are becoming hyper-collectable, bypassing 1966's, 1965's and dare I say even Cobras in value?  They've become so valuable that literally no one wants to sell one.
;D

Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on January 21, 2018, 01:30:14 PM
Sounds plausible to me.  😎
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: chris NOS on January 21, 2018, 02:06:17 PM
67 are like bitcoins you need to hold them to keep value  ;D
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Wedgeman on January 21, 2018, 03:05:59 PM
I noticed that also....curious to see down the road if that is a trend,,,
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: BGlover67 on January 21, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
Obviously, that was tongue in cheek.  But it is still interesting. Maybe with it being the 50 th anniversary of the '68s, that's where sellers/buyers heads are?  Ruben mentioned to me that he noticed a pretty nice up tick in selling prices for '68s at Mecum.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on January 21, 2018, 05:39:11 PM
I have read prices are up across the board.

Nothing helps as much as hearing the economy is good.  🤔
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Shelby_r_b on January 21, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on January 21, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
Obviously, that was tongue in cheek.  But it is still interesting. Maybe with it being the 50 th anniversary of the '68s, that's where sellers/buyers heads are?  Ruben mentioned to me that he noticed a pretty nice up tick in selling prices for '68s at Mecum.

I know this is the 67 thread...and, Brian is right.  I couldn't believe how well 68s did at Mecum Kissimmee, especially given their condition (hopefully, no one on here sold or bought one from this auction, or this might be my last post 8))!!
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote from: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.

What was the result?
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 427heaven on January 22, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
I had my 67 Sleeping Beauty- at some of the gathering places near the auctions like the PAVILLIONS near it all. Had at least 95 inquiries Is it for sale? Asked about our cars and their was a few that sold like auctions America GT 350 sold for a buck fifty all in with fees. Good times were had by most as usual,if you dig cars this was the place to be!!! :)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Bigfoot on January 22, 2018, 10:42:50 AM
And for people looking for a 67-350 there are fewer of them than 66's.
Even if you take the Hertz cars out of the equation there are fewer 67 small block cars.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: shelbydoug on January 22, 2018, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on January 21, 2018, 12:32:24 PM
Does anyone else find it interesting that there seems to have been no 1967's for sale at both Barrett Jackson and Mecum auctions this January?  Perhaps 1967's are becoming hyper-collectable, bypassing 1966's, 1965's and dare I say even Cobras in value?  They've become so valuable that literally no one wants to sell one.
;D

More likely there were no cars that were "acceptable to BJ"? Values seem to swing back and forth on them. No one will even make a commitment in writing as to what they think the value of the car is?

"Some" are blaming the "over estimate of value" on BJ auctioneers themselves? Sounds like political foot hopping to me?

It's going back to when you want to buy it, it's worth a zillion. When you want to sell it, "I'll give you $800 and a 75 Pinto?"
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2018, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on January 22, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
I had my 67 Sleeping Beauty- at some of the gathering places near the auctions like the PAVILLIONS near it all. Had at least 95 inquiries Is it for sale? Asked about our cars and their was a few that sold like auctions America GT 350 sold for a buck fifty all in with fees. Good times were had by most as usual,if you dig cars this was the place to be!!! :)
Heck, I was on the fence about making the trip. If I would have known you were going to have your car out there that fact would have put my deciding factor of doing a trip over the top to come given the auctions and Marcus's open house. Dang
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 427heaven on January 22, 2018, 03:54:19 PM
Bob   That would have been fun to meet up, there were quite a few Shelby junkies I spoke with from all over the planet. This is THE place to be in January to see everyone escaping harsh weather conditions,their ol ladies,work,and anything else they need a break from. I hope to be in Nor Cal for the 68 50 year party!  We all confirmed almost daily if you were there, THAT you could confirm the CORRECTNESS on most of the JUNK that rolled in to town  for that most exciting week. Be well my friend- :)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Richstang on January 22, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote from: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.

What was the result?

They didn't list it. Hopefully it will be added soon on that collector car website (I forget the name) that tracks auction results. If it is, I will post.
Here's a link to the photos and auction listing.

https://ftlauderdaleauction.com/?page=home&SEARCH=1967+shelby
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Richstang on January 22, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote from: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.

What was the result?

They didn't list it. Hopefully it will be added soon on that collector car website (I forget the name) that tracks auction results. If it is, I will post.
Here's a link to the photos and auction listing.

https://ftlauderdaleauction.com/?page=home&SEARCH=1967+shelby

Ah, I am aware of that car, after reading the description, I got the impression the seller felt the car was worth 3400 lbs of gold.   ::)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Wedgeman on January 22, 2018, 09:58:10 PM
Why yes , Michael, I would say 3400 lbs. of gold is about right......LOL!!
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 11:03:02 PM
Craig, YOUR car is worth that!  😎
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: shelbydoug on January 23, 2018, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Richstang on January 22, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote from: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.

What was the result?

They didn't list it. Hopefully it will be added soon on that collector car website (I forget the name) that tracks auction results. If it is, I will post.
Here's a link to the photos and auction listing.

https://ftlauderdaleauction.com/?page=home&SEARCH=1967+shelby

Ah, I am aware of that car, after reading the description, I got the impression the seller felt the car was worth 3400 lbs of gold.   ::)

Have you considered bit coin? That goes over big in China.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Adriano Puma S. on January 24, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
The only 67 Gt350 i saw for sale during last 2 weeks ( Kissimee and Scottsdale) was the 4 speed air car Brittany at Worldwide auctioneers car number #2007 if i recall.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 24, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
I think they stayed home because restomod is where BJ money is today. No longer the crowd to sell anything less than a 110% original or one of car.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Adriano Puma S. on January 25, 2018, 02:05:09 AM
Might be , at BJ it's always a big gamble anyway plus many ppl scared of the no reserve! On the other hand there were plenty of 68 shelbys , and KR's have been surprisingly done well at BJ ( even though quality of some cars absolutely not top notch)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 427heaven on January 30, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
Prices are up this year, after milling about most of the auctions and coffee spots-shows in the local vicinity a few deals were had without the 10 percent buyers fee, 10 percent sellers fee, shipping fees,and listing fees... Few   they add up quick! 150k each  for a 350 auto on 2 different cars is what I heard from both new owners, congratulations to both of them hopefully they come on board and join the party here! A good time was had by all, see you at some events this year. :)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: roddster on January 30, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
  Mr Puma: use A/C for air conditioning as "air" car has a different meaning here.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Adriano Puma S. on January 31, 2018, 07:05:59 AM
Quote from: roddster on January 30, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
  Mr Puma: use A/C for air conditioning as "air" car has a different meaning here.  Thanks.

Will do , sorry for that but I guess I can be excused since english is my sixth language  ;) ! PS: just out of curiosity what means air car instead?
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: BGlover67 on January 31, 2018, 08:41:33 AM
Adriano,

You certainly have nothing to apologize for.  'Air cars' is a term used in this hobby to describe a vehicle thats history is doubtful.  More specifically, when an entire car is assembled from one piece of an original Shelby.  Like finding a Shelby Vin Plate and building an entire Shelby from it.  Conversely, sometimes an original car could have sustained damaged, like an original Cobra being raced and having a significant amount of its body work replaced due to an accident.  Years later, someone 'finds' the discarded parts and decides to build a Cobra out of them.  Now you have an 'air car'.  This phenomenon isn't limited to Shelbys.  Ferraris and Jaguars suffer with the same affliction, as I'm sure many other Marques do.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Adriano Puma S. on January 31, 2018, 09:31:04 AM
ot: understood, so a term which stretch is  " rebody " I guess .. didnt know about this english " air " terminology .. good to know ..
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: J_Speegle on January 31, 2018, 07:39:54 PM
"Air" cars can describe a car made with no original parts. Just a shortened American "made out of thin air" I believe

There is a full definition in the registry
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: JD on January 31, 2018, 11:52:32 PM
page 1293 in the '65 through '67 Shelby Registry, in the other registry's too but for some reason that issue is always at hand 
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Richstang on July 12, 2018, 05:54:40 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 23, 2018, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Richstang on January 22, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Quote from: Richstang on January 21, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
There was a Nightmist Blue GT500 at the "FT Lauderdale Car Auction" 1/6/2018.
Factory AC car
I'm still trying to get the ID number. It may have been in the #2550's.

What was the result?

They didn't list it. Hopefully it will be added soon on that collector car website (I forget the name) that tracks auction results. If it is, I will post.
Here's a link to the photos and auction listing.

https://ftlauderdaleauction.com/?page=home&SEARCH=1967+shelby

Ah, I am aware of that car, after reading the description, I got the impression the seller felt the car was worth 3400 lbs of gold.   ::)

Have you considered bit coin? That goes over big in China.

The car number is #2530. It was just listed for over $405,000!!!
:o

https://www.streetsideclassics.com/vehicles/4397-atl/1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Shelby_r_b on July 12, 2018, 08:37:09 PM
That seems reasonable... ::)
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Wedgeman on July 12, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
I can accept the very rare (1 of 1 ) 428 CJ engine...but....it cannot be....THE CAUTION FAN STICKER...NOOOOOO ;D
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: JD on July 12, 2018, 11:34:54 PM
interesting - brush painted blue calipers ... that's where the money is!
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 557 on July 13, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
Well it is a outboard/automatic car so there's that...
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: Richstang on July 13, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Quote from: Wedgeman on July 12, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
I can accept the very rare (1 of 1 ) 428 CJ engine...but....it cannot be....THE CAUTION FAN STICKER...NOOOOOO ;D

The first listing in Ft Lauderdale notes it as a 1 of 8.
That appears to be accurate as a GT500 in Nightmist Blue with an Automatic and A/C.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: honker on July 13, 2018, 12:27:23 PM
Here's a '67 GT350 from July 2018 Hemmings on line.  I need some education on what it is about the "caution fan sticker" that you guys are on about all the time ? maybe I need to study my registry a little closer  ::)

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/shelby/gt350/2124952.html


Mike
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: BGlover67 on July 13, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
Mike, the 'Caution Fan' sticker has become synonomous with whether or not the owner/restorer of a Shelby knows what they are doing.  Today way too many people just copy what ever they see at a car show and add it to their own car, even if it isn't right.  3/4's of the paint inspection marks seen out there fall into this category.   This sticker never came on a 1967, so it stands out like a sore thumb.  My 14 year old autistic son laughs when he sees a caution sticker on an early Mustang or Shelby, so even he knows better.

The better question is which cars are correct in receiving this sticker?  Boss 9?
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: 2112 on July 13, 2018, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: 557 on July 13, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
Well it is a outboard/automatic car so there's that...

+1 Those are big hits IMO too.
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: J_Speegle on July 14, 2018, 04:51:23 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on July 13, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
The better question is which cars are correct in receiving this sticker?  Boss 9?

In the Mustang line - yes the Boss 429 on the finger guard and those 72 - on up that were built just prior the letter and stickers being sent out "current" (at the time) owners and dealerships
Title: Re: Lack of 1967's at BJ and Mecum Auctions
Post by: honker on July 14, 2018, 10:42:05 AM
Thanks ! Brian and Jeff on the fan sticker information.

Mike