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Title: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Survivor on August 26, 2022, 09:20:59 AM
Did the '69 spare have a plain jane rim or a five spoke and what would the tire have been.  I'm assuming it came with the air cannister.  Thx.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Coralsnake on August 26, 2022, 10:31:24 AM
You need Coralsnake help 😎

www.thecoralsnake.com/69tires

See the bottom of the page
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: Survivor on August 26, 2022, 09:20:59 AM
Did the '69 spare have a plain jane rim or a five spoke and what would the tire have been.  I'm assuming it came with the air cannister.  Thx.
Since the excellent information in the  www.thecoralsnake.com/69tires  website did not completely answer your question I will give confirmation that spacesaver installed was a plain steel rim . I hope Pete will add the addition of this tidbit as I have been asked many times about the same question given illustrations on some jacking instruction stickers. Also earlier pre late March cars did not typically come with a bottle cradle and later cars did. 
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Coralsnake on August 26, 2022, 11:27:56 AM
I would be happy to add that information to the page.

Would I be correct in saying it is the 14x6 disc brake steel wheel?
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 26, 2022, 11:27:56 AM
I would be happy to add that information to the page.

Would I be correct in saying it is the 14x6 disc brake steel wheel?
Most likely but I am not for sure that if in 69 the standard 14" steel wheel is different between disc and drum. 
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 26, 2022, 01:03:52 PM
I can take a picture of my original one in my GT350 if you like. I know it isn't a dist pic but it's the best I can do at home.  ;D
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: honker on August 26, 2022, 02:43:20 PM
Here's what I have noted as a '69 ?  GT350 trunk in my files, not sure if this is original or restored ? I believe these images where

on forum 1 ? ?

Mike
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
FYI the yellow sticker in not concours correct if that matters. That is because they were not available at the time of the MFG or even a couple years after. They were sent to Shelby owners as part of a recall starting in around 1971. I have a letter from Ford including the sticker asking to immediately apply to wheel. Dealers were probably asked to apply them as well just like the caution fan stickers. It is only a small minority of 7.35 space savers that I ever see for sale have them applied. I have not seen a survivor car yet that has had one applied not to say a survivor owner could not have received the letter and applied the enclosed sticker but that out the many survivors that I have seen none have had the sticker applied. I have however seen a couple where the sticker was loose . Apparently a sticker was received and rather then apply it the owner tossed it in with the space saver.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 26, 2022, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
FYI the yellow sticker in not concours correct if that matters. That is because they were not available at the time of the MFG or even a couple years after. They were sent to Shelby owners as part of a recall starting in around 1971. I have a letter from Ford including the sticker asking to immediately apply to wheel. Dealers were probably asked to apply them as well just like the caution fan stickers. It is only a small minority of 7.35 space savers that I ever see for sale have them applied. I have not seen a survivor car yet that has had one applied not to say a survivor owner could not have received the letter and applied the enclosed sticker but that out the many survivors that I have seen none have had the sticker applied. I have however seen a couple where the sticker was loose . Apparently a sticker was received and rather then apply it the owner tossed it in with the space saver.
Valve stem is also incorrect. I see them on later space savers.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: honker on August 26, 2022, 03:31:55 PM
Thanks guys ! as always a reply detailed and informative.

Mike
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on August 26, 2022, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
FYI the yellow sticker in not concours correct if that matters. That is because they were not available at the time of the MFG or even a couple years after. They were sent to Shelby owners as part of a recall starting in around 1971. I have a letter from Ford including the sticker asking to immediately apply to wheel. Dealers were probably asked to apply them as well just like the caution fan stickers. It is only a small minority of 7.35 space savers that I ever see for sale have them applied. I have not seen a survivor car yet that has had one applied not to say a survivor owner could not have received the letter and applied the enclosed sticker but that out the many survivors that I have seen none have had the sticker applied. I have however seen a couple where the sticker was loose . Apparently a sticker was received and rather then apply it the owner tossed it in with the space saver.
Valve stem is also incorrect. I see them on later space savers.
Good eyes Gary. I missed what I call the double valve stem . Those later 70's space saver's are the ones that the stickers were applied to at the factory . I cant tell in the picture the size but the majority of those with the double valve stem had a F 78 14 sized tire too.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 26, 2022, 03:56:44 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on August 26, 2022, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 26, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
FYI the yellow sticker in not concours correct if that matters. That is because they were not available at the time of the MFG or even a couple years after. They were sent to Shelby owners as part of a recall starting in around 1971. I have a letter from Ford including the sticker asking to immediately apply to wheel. Dealers were probably asked to apply them as well just like the caution fan stickers. It is only a small minority of 7.35 space savers that I ever see for sale have them applied. I have not seen a survivor car yet that has had one applied not to say a survivor owner could not have received the letter and applied the enclosed sticker but that out the many survivors that I have seen none have had the sticker applied. I have however seen a couple where the sticker was loose . Apparently a sticker was received and rather then apply it the owner tossed it in with the space saver.
Valve stem is also incorrect. I see them on later space savers.
Good eyes Gary. I missed what I call the double valve stem . Those later 70's space saver's are the ones that the stickers were applied to at the factory . I cant tell in the picture the size but the majority of those with the double valve stem had a F 78 14 sized tire too.
easy to miss as the sticker blinds you.  :D
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 27, 2022, 08:02:01 AM
original parts. I added the sticker over 20 years ago(no witness of having the sticker before).
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Survivor on September 01, 2022, 10:16:30 AM
Could someone enlighten me as to the '69 date code 9ME w/ respect to an original BF spare tire.  Thx.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 01, 2022, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: Survivor on September 01, 2022, 10:16:30 AM
Could someone enlighten me as to the '69 date code 9ME w/ respect to an original BF spare tire.  Thx.
I have original wheels-69 Mach1 chrome wheels where I see the same thing stamped. I'm sure that 9ME isn't a date code per year/month/week so to speak. That spare is the original to a May 6th 1969 Dearborn car. I can pull the wheel out for further inspection.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: honker on September 02, 2022, 02:01:14 PM
Maybe relevant to this thread ? Is this a double valve stem ? have included two images from the link below.

link by shelbymann1970 in another thread.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-shelby-mustang-gt500-9/


Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 02, 2022, 02:20:18 PM
correct wheel it appears with the DIL valve stem cap. The trunk pic is missing the jack, handle and J-hook  with wingnut. Tire is the correct 7.35x14
Here is a double valve stem type in pics below that was used later in the 70s by Ford.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Survivor on September 19, 2022, 01:31:06 PM
Was the spare tire/jack/handle tie down process done with the usual J hook/wingnut or was there a "strap" that went over the tire-for '69 
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: Coralsnake on September 19, 2022, 01:38:37 PM
No strap, there is a hook.
Title: Re: '69 Trunk Q
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 20, 2022, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: Survivor on September 19, 2022, 01:31:06 PM
Was the spare tire/jack/handle tie down process done with the usual J hook/wingnut or was there a "strap" that went over the tire-for '69
The hook was Shelby unique https://www.scottfullerreproductions.com/catalog/item/4595229/6752241.htm