On a KR with oil cooler is the dome @ fog lights correct as original on the metal cross member?
Can you please clarify?
The metal crossmember or shelf is the same on all cars. The big block cars do have two extra metal tabs added to hang the oil cooler
(http://www.thecoralsnake.com/partsindex.jpg)
I am referring to the two 5/8" holes in the metal cross member where the fog lights go through. The 2 holes on my KR have a dome or hill around the 2 holes is that original ? I see the 2 tabs you are talking about they have 3 spot welds on each tab.
There is no "dome" on the shelf, the fiberglass has to lay flat on top of it. The fog light has a square base that sits on the fiberglass
http://www.thecoralsnake.com/FogLight
Pete maybe the word "dome" is the wrong word. Maybe 1/8" hill or ridge fits. Look in your records of pictures of KR oil coolers. I sent you a picture of the cross member with what I am trying to explain years ago. Thanks Pete
It might be easier for you to send me a new picture
Pete did you get the picture that you requested that I sent you @ your email Hotmail? thanks Jay
Nope
Coralsnake68@hotmail.com
Pete I posted my cross member picture in the gallery on the forum. Look in the gallery and see if you can see it. I could not send the picture to the post. Thanks J ames
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/694-190618163250.jpeg)
Is that it?
That area should be flat. The fiberglass lays on top of it.
That's it 67-1183 thank you. Pete I have owned my KR for 50 years same cross member fog lights etc. You say they should be flat the fact is mine are not. That should interest you because you are a Shelby researcher and a good one I must say. Things change in 50 years but my cross member has not. Thanks James
Quote from: pied viper 041 on June 20, 2018, 10:58:44 AM
That's it 67-1183 thank you. Pete I have owned my KR for 50 years same cross member fog lights etc. You say they should be flat the fact is mine are not. That should interest you because you are a Shelby researcher and a good one I must say. Things change in 50 years but my cross member has not. Thanks James
Curious that in your initial post that you ask a question about the dome or flat in a manner that suggest you don't know the answer. When you get a informed answer from a knowledgeable Shelby researcher you seem to disagree? I suppose I could be misinterpreting your response. Pete's answer on this particular subject is shared by many here including myself. Of course Pete's answer does not preclude a possible factory anomaly but does address what is typically and normal for how the part was engineered.
I appreciate your comments.
Well, one odd example does not interest me. When I start to see a pattern, then I have an interest.
I can come up with several reasons why it maybe "domed", but I am pretty confident it is not factory. That modification would actually interfere with the lower valence. On the outside chance it is factory, I dont believe it was intended to be that way.
Perhaps the fog light nuts were overtightened at some point? I would give it a little more weight if you are the original owner and the car has never been apart, but again, I dont see any reason the distortion would have a benefit....
Is the picture posted above a second example? If so, the distortion may have been caused by stamping the hole? If it were mine, I would probably get a big hammer and fix it.
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Pete thanks for the response , there was more than one odd example there is 2 holes 2 odd examples. Pete I think it was factory punched. I think they may have punched it on the wrong side that would make since. You could not get enough force to bend that metal the fog lights would collapse first.The cross members took a little time to construct. If they punched them wrong I think they would have used them any way, just my thoughts after reading your post. What is the difference in stamping or punching ? If you look hard at the cross member there is a 1/4" hole stamped in it right over the oil cooler to hold the fiber glass down just saying they were stamping. This is a second example I sent some pictures to you years ago 1 was of my oil cooler and lines. Pete would you really take a hammer to it if you were me I do not think so. Mr. Gaines no disrespect I only know my car I thought you could think out loud on the forum. Thanks James
Quote from: pied viper 041 on June 20, 2018, 03:28:50 PM
Pete thanks for the response , there was more than one odd example there is 2 holes 2 odd examples. Pete I think it was factory punched. I think they may have punched it on the wrong side that would make since. You could not get enough force to bend that metal the fog lights would collapse first.The cross members took a little time to construct. If they punched them wrong I think they would have used them any way, just my thoughts after reading your post. What is the difference in stamping or punching ? If you look hard at the cross member there is a 1/4" hole stamped in it right over the oil cooler to hold the fiber glass down just saying they were stamping. This is a second example I sent some pictures to you years ago 1 was of my oil cooler and lines. Pete would you really take a hammer to it if you were me I do not think so. Mr. Gaines no disrespect I only know my car I thought you could think out loud on the forum. Thanks James
James ,no harm. I'm glad you cleared that up. The written word is easy to misinterpret so thinking out loud in the written word without indicating as such can change the meaning of a message in a unintended way.
I think I would flatten it out. Once the fiberglass goes on top, it needs to lay flat or you run the risk of cracking the fiberglass when the fog light is installed.
Just my opinion
Pied Viper, did you disassemble the front of the car or did you buy it that way? How did the original fiberglass panel fit in relation to the other pieces? Is (was) the original panel damaged in any way, cracked? Was it modified to fit the humps?
Jack
I purchased my car in July 1969 with 1900 miles on it. I put it away in July1988 to do some work on it. I did not do any work on front of car except dismantle blast and paint. The humps did not make any difference the fiber glass I would believe is original as the cross member and they fit perfect together. And the fog lights are original they fit nice and tight. Thanks James