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Deals and Appeals => Up For Auction => Topic started by: 5s386 on January 07, 2023, 09:25:21 PM

Title: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: 5s386 on January 07, 2023, 09:25:21 PM
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-shelby-gt350-3/
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: cboss70 on January 09, 2023, 08:56:56 AM
It's also at an Audi dealer in Tacoma Washington for a steep 115k. (saw it online with a search- the seller is a salesperson at the dealership)
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Coralsnake on January 09, 2023, 09:39:58 AM
I usually don't criticize asking prices, you can ask what you like for your car.

Considering the structural issues, that might be optimistic
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: silverton_ford on January 09, 2023, 10:03:52 AM
It's also at an Audi dealer in Tacoma Washington for a steep 115k. (saw it online with a search- the seller is a salesperson at the dealership)

https://www.larsonvolkswagen.com/auto/used-1969-shelby-fastback-gt350-4spd-near-tacoma-wa/71170910/ (https://www.larsonvolkswagen.com/auto/used-1969-shelby-fastback-gt350-4spd-near-tacoma-wa/71170910/)
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 09, 2023, 10:19:46 AM
It's also at an Audi dealer in Tacoma Washington for a steep 115k. (saw it online with a search- the seller is a salesperson at the dealership)
LOTS of metal replaced on that car....Wasn't put together correctly. Does have a nice fitting hood.  :)
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Survivor on January 09, 2023, 10:20:15 AM
Just another "hack" listing on bat-no real details/explanation(s)/feedback offered by the seller-imo.  This is a low level (but still cool) driver car-65k on it's best day and that includes fees-again, imo given what the seller has shared to date.  We'll see what the market says...
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 09, 2023, 10:28:45 AM
Just another "hack" listing on bat-no real details/explanation(s)/feedback offered by the seller-imo.  This is a low level (but still cool) driver car-65k on it's best day and that includes fees-again, imo given what the seller has shared to date.  We'll see what the market says...
I made a comment that when they said "car was painted" they should have included metal work.. Doors are 1970. You can tell by the inner plus where they mounted the data tag and Shelby tag. This is one of those cars I'd ask for a LOT more close up pics in certain areas...We are close at our thoughts but I'm a little lower than you but the car will be over bid. The question is if BaT allowed a HIGH reserve on the car. People I know have passed on BaT because BaT wanted a really low reserve and I've seen junk bid higher than what a reserve should be on a car. That tells me while BaT is very successful their workers just don't know how to really "appraise" a car but can you blame them as the diversity of things they sell is astronomical .
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: cboss70 on January 10, 2023, 08:15:56 AM
Looks like someone found the ad from the last time it was listed for 59k and sold prior to paint. The paint looked decent before the respray- I would have left it unless I had to paint it. The ad also shows a block that came with the car (who knows maybe the original) but the BAT ad does not show an extra engine or block is included. If it was the original engine hopefully the new owner will get it.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 10, 2023, 09:43:24 AM
59K-probably sold for a little less from GR in 2020-2021. Now 115K? I know inflation has been bad but... aqua Painted lower fender brackets to frame? Wrong bolts for the front Valance? No blackout on the front valance. Amateur work. Hey, there are a lot out there that are not perfect but at 115K this car should be able to score a trophy at a SAAC Meet. A friend thought the car looked better in the GR pics than the current pics so it had a repaint? Well there is definitely overspray in the current auction that isn't on the GR's pics like the rear leaf and exhaust collector. THe GR pics those front fender to frame brackets and bolts are not painted but are in the BaT listing. To me a LAZY job so crappy job. Maybe MAACO was running a sale...
Oh yeah the VALANCE bolts on the GR site appear correct "bumper style"but not painted but they used regular hex bolts after the respray comparing front shots.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Coralsnake on January 10, 2023, 09:56:40 AM
And you wonder why dealers aka flippers have a bad reputation?
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: FL SAAC on January 10, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
1969 a very good year
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 12, 2023, 11:22:42 AM
Some great comments. Best one of the day. I suspect it will be gone soon
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Coralsnake on January 12, 2023, 12:22:00 PM
I dont think people that are asking questions get to determine if a car is "tainted" or if people will bid on it.

Seems kind of immature to me, if you don't answer my questions, I'm going to stomp my feet.

Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Survivor on January 12, 2023, 12:30:54 PM
Well... look at the listing (if we can call it that) & comments and tell me if the seller has provided even the most basic/meaningful info.  And a re-paint doesn't fit into that category.  To call it "stomping" misses the mark.  I call it prospective bidders trying to determine what this car is or more likely, isn't, before they lay out the pesos.  Or, better yet, enthusiasts in the know who are trying to challenge a seller for the info. that matters and to date, has not been presented.  Let's keep our eye on the ball and less on the semantics.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 12, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
AS of now it is pretty simple to explain the car what I have read and seen and what hasn't been said. Replacement engine but original engine is AWOL? Lots of metal replacement. Amateur resto work. A #3- #4 car. Go to Hagerty and do the math. That is my take on the car. Great color and a 4 speed. Even with the Worts to me it would be a decent car for someone but I would say don't buy it like it's a gold SAAC car. I suspect the reserve is much higher than what Hagerty valuation says the car is worth. BaT  and reserves don't go together.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: 6972boss on January 12, 2023, 08:10:31 PM
If anyone wants eyes on i live 20 mins from this car.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: 5s386 on January 12, 2023, 11:16:47 PM
Some great comments. Best one of the day. I suspect it will be gone soon


"This comment has been flagged as non-constructive"
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 07:16:52 AM
So when I see 1969 Mustang Fastbacks with I think are the cheap repo belt line quarters on them(not full dynacorns) I try and see if they put the side marker lights in the correct spot since the cheapo repos do not have holes stamped the the side lights. I got verified original paint/panel cars in pics to compare. I'm sure most viewers  or perspective buyers don't go through this process. So many are off from their original factory position. My question has always been why do shops not take the time for proper side marker alignment? I do the same for the floors. Did they make an effort to duplicate a factory 69 floor pan?
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Survivor on January 13, 2023, 09:06:47 AM
Selling dealer has a 1.8 rating with 75 reviews-Larson Volkswagon.  Read them with interest.  Now, that may or may not be pertinent in this case but it's certainly a reflection on how they've handled this listing.  IMO-he should no sale it-I doubt it will get close to reserve anyway-re-group and come back out for extra innings with a clean slate & a highly descriptive/verified listing.  Someone should get eyes on this thing for sure.  As always, at the right price, it's a worthy investment.  Let's see what happens...
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 10:13:40 AM
Selling dealer has a 1.8 rating with 75 reviews-Larson Volkswagon.  Read them with interest.  Now, that may or may not be pertinent in this case but it's certainly a reflection on how they've handled this listing.  IMO-he should no sale it-I doubt it will get close to reserve anyway-re-group and come back out for extra innings with a clean slate & a highly descriptive/verified listing.  Someone should get eyes on this thing for sure.  As always, at the right price, it's a worthy investment.  Let's see what happens...
Anyone with eyes what should be looked at at the rear quarters at the beltline in the trunk(seams?). Fender apron overlaps. Rear frame rails. Closer inspection on the frame rails just in front of the rear end. Lower front fender in front of the wheel pass side for damage assessment. Trunk pans under the trunk mat. floors.  VIn on back of block. might be able to get with a cell phone with as light on.  If restoration to a mint car was my goal I'd pay more to Bret for a solid numbers matching 4 speed GT350 project  with all or most of the parts there-running or not- as I'd be farther ahead with that car than this car.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: cboss70 on January 13, 2023, 11:36:39 AM
A couple people here mentioned a reserve- does anyone know if there is one and what it is?
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 12:11:39 PM
A couple people here mentioned a reserve- does anyone know if there is one and what it is?
yes and they do not give them out(seller could I guess). No reserve auctions say no reserve to start the header
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: Survivor on January 14, 2023, 09:42:09 AM
I've spoken at length to two long term owners of this car-from 1977 to 2012.  I'm happy to discuss the info. I have with any potential bidder.  You may reach me on the cell at (508) 361-7960.
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: 5s386 on January 14, 2023, 08:46:56 PM
Sold for $77,000.  plus BAT fee 5%
Title: Re: 9F02M480096 on BAT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 15, 2023, 07:25:42 AM
What I found interesting are some of the comments from the like  the crowd was tough. "I'd sell my car at MEcum before I'd ever sell it on BaT. So what does that say the guy has a Shelby with issues and knows if he put it on BaT it would get picked apart or tough questions asked? Funny in that good cars never do. Personally I think the crowd could have been much tougher(not ever proposing that) and if this was a Vette or a Mopar sure would have been. Yeah it was a "great" car. All Shelbys are. Some are greater than others.