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Title: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Don Johnston on February 15, 2023, 03:09:11 PM
I spotted this today.  Information from the Shelby American Registry is shown with them.  Anyone know details?

https://journal.classiccars.com/2023/02/13/rare-and-registered-three-shelby-mustangs-for-auction/?fbclid=IwAR1wog2DKfSsfnboM76kUvYljZglSy0VgdJ9hhOJgVfS4j6MLrGhugPivZ8



Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: FL SAAC on February 15, 2023, 03:20:51 PM
Nice find, looking good  !
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: silverton_ford on February 15, 2023, 03:32:43 PM
6S355 - https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36852/1966-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350 (https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36852/1966-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350)

1967 # 2578 - https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36855/1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350 (https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36855/1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350)

1967 # 1823 - https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36853/1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500 (https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/36853/1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500)
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Don Johnston on February 15, 2023, 03:43:37 PM
Anyone in the Carolinas attending? 8)
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: SCJSTU on February 15, 2023, 03:53:31 PM
I may be going
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Shelby73 on February 15, 2023, 09:42:06 PM
I'll be there. I know the guy that owned the 66 25-30 years ago.
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Hudidad on February 22, 2023, 09:28:18 AM
Newer member here, but would really appreciate y'alls help if possible.  Mostly a lurker and learner honestly.  Anybody have any suggestions on how to evaluate that Brittany Blue 67 prior to auction?  Have some other conflicts so travel this weekend doesn't work, but even if I were on site I'd want someone with more expertise to help me evaluate it prior to auction.  Appreciate any suggestions.  That car checks most of the boxes for me - may not get it regardless but would hate to miss it because I can't be there in person. 

No issue registering to bid online or via phone, just tough to do so without a real evaluation on the car.  I prefer BaT for that reason honestly - feels like you get a much clearer pic of vehicles there than at any of these auctions.  Spent a week in Scottsdale at Barrett and came home empty handed - values there were kind of nutty.  There were a few vehicles that you could buy new at a dealership down the street (we checked) and sold there for $30k - $40k more.  Plus the premium. 
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: SCJSTU on February 22, 2023, 04:12:04 PM
The Brittany Blue GT500 has a Branded title......I am no expert but that may affect value?.....heres the description

This Car Will be Sold with the Original 10 Spoke Shelby Wheels / Not Offered with the Magnum Shelby WheelsOriginal Owner's ManualMarti ReportCurrent Florida Title Branded 37K Actual MilesPer NMVTIS Previous Ohio Title Branded Not Actual428/355 HP4-Speed TransmissionPower SteeringDisc Brakes1 of Just 2,048 GT500s Built in 1967
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Hudidad on February 22, 2023, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on February 22, 2023, 04:12:04 PM
The Brittany Blue GT500 has a Branded title......I am no expert but that may affect value?.....heres the description

This Car Will be Sold with the Original 10 Spoke Shelby Wheels / Not Offered with the Magnum Shelby WheelsOriginal Owner's ManualMarti ReportCurrent Florida Title Branded 37K Actual MilesPer NMVTIS Previous Ohio Title Branded Not Actual428/355 HP4-Speed TransmissionPower SteeringDisc Brakes1 of Just 2,048 GT500s Built in 1967

Wow great catch on the branded title.  Yeah that's a bummer. 
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: 68krrrr on February 22, 2023, 08:41:50 PM
What does a branded title mean i've never heard that term, is it the same as a  salvage title ? & to OP there's some people on this  forum who will do a professional inspection for you but expect to pay at least $2k
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: mk31755 on February 23, 2023, 06:27:42 AM
       I don't know if this is the same car but......... about thirteen years ago I met two gentlemen , in Ohio, while hunting for parts for my 68 Shelby.  Don Pollack sold me an automatic shifter handle for my car .  I told him I had met a gent named Tom Thompson, who had a garage filled with Shelbys.  There was one that caught my eye.  It was Brittany Blue. It had low mileage.
       Don told me he sold that Brittany blue car to Tom Thompson.  It had been stolen and the motor taken.  The car had a non original motor, according to Don.  I don't know what other items had been vandalized when the car was stolen but it was sure a pretty car.  I remember it because I wrote notes for future reference , on that day in April, 2010.

      There were a lot of similarities to this car being auctioned.  I don't know that they are one in the same........ maybe its just coincidental
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 23, 2023, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: 68krrrr on February 22, 2023, 08:41:50 PM
What does a branded title mean i've never heard that term, is it the same as a  salvage title ? & to OP there's some people on this  forum who will do a professional inspection for you but expect to pay at least $2k

There may be inspections that are done for $2K, but I would not say that's the entry price to have a true professional complete an inspection.  I've had accurate inspections done in the past for much less.

And you don't always get what you pay for (i.e., a higher priced inspector = a more thorough / accurate inspection).
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: JD on February 23, 2023, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: 68krrrr on February 22, 2023, 08:41:50 PM
What does a branded title mean i've never heard that term, is it the same as a  salvage title ? & to OP there's some people on this  forum who will do a professional inspection for you but expect to pay at least $2k

For What it's worth - From Internet search:

what does a branded title mean on a car?
A branded title vehicle is any vehicle that has experienced an insurance incident resulting in a total loss. There are some levels of insurance claims that result in the title of a car being changed to represent the insurance incident.

also:

What is the difference between branded and salvage title?
Alright, so a vehicle bearing a salvage title is wrecked and illegal, or most likely, impossible to drive—while a branded title simply notes a vehicle has been subject to damage. Our specialists carefully purchase and professionally restore branded title vehicles. Jul 6, 2020
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: KR500 on February 23, 2023, 02:03:22 PM
For what's it worth.
Salvage titles in OH ( probably most states ) are the results of the insurance industry. Most  insurance companies will total a vehicle when the cost to repair it is at 75-80% of it's value. They then factor in  the possibility of supplements ( additional repairs required in addition to the estimate), car rental time and salvage value. So most of the time they will total( write of as a total loss ) a vehicle at less that the standard 75% value. A "totaled" vehicle doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how badly a vehicle is damaged. Example "A". A 20 year old vehicle W/125K on the odometer is in a minor fender bender. Vehicle needs a headlamp, grille, dent in the fender repaired and refinish the fender and bumper cover. Estimate to repair is $1000. Insurance co. says the value of the vehicle is $1500. While the $1000 estimate is less than 75% ( $1125 )of the vehicle's value more often than not they will total it because they factor in their total costs. Would they need to rent a vehicle for the client while the vehicle is being repaired? A supplement might be needed after repairs begin. Plus thy factor in the salvage value of the vehicle. In this case perhaps the salvage value is $300. The insurance Co. pays out $1500 to settle the claim, get $300 from the salvage yard for the vehicle and they are done! vs $1000 min repair costs and maybe a $150 rental or more with a risk of additional repair costs ect.Insurance will total this vehicle most of the time. Example "B". A 2023 F150XLT 4x4 with 3K miles is broadsided, heavy damage. $60,000+ truck. Estimate to repair is $35,000, well under the $45,000, 75% total threshold. Vehicle is repaired no salvage title. Which one is damaged worse? which one would you want? In OH you go to the salvage auction and buy vehicle "A". You pay $500 put a headlamp in it, pound out the fender a little and it's good to go. But it has that salvage title. No problem here. Just take the vehicle to your local Ohio Highway Patrol station and have it inspected. If they give it a passing inspection now you can take it to a license bureau, get plates and done. A salvage title will hurt the value, but perfectly legal if done by the book.
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: KR Convertible on February 23, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
I have always wondered what happens with a salvage title car when it is brought to a no title state.  Many states don't issue titles to older cars NY being one.  It gets a transferable registration.  Does the brand follow?
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: FL SAAC on February 23, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
Thats why some guy memorialized a 1968 Shelby convertible .... the plot thickens

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=20855.0
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: SCJSTU on February 25, 2023, 05:38:17 PM
The Brittany Blue was a no sale today
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on February 27, 2023, 12:41:28 AM
$245k and a "no sale" and the car carries a branded title?  C'mon.  What was the seller hoping for?

QSS

Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: jgordonwin on March 08, 2023, 08:30:16 AM
He wants 275k. I spoke with the auction house. Car is still available.
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on March 08, 2023, 07:52:21 PM
Shoulda jumped on the $245k....... if that was indeed a legit bid/offer.

QSS
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: pmustang on March 09, 2023, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: KR Convertible on February 23, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
I have always wondered what happens with a salvage title car when it is brought to a no title state.  Many states don't issue titles to older cars NY being one.  It gets a transferable registration.  Does the brand follow?

Ah. That's why so many cars have GA titles. Clean title state. Wipes the Brands

Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: J_Speegle on March 10, 2023, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: pmustang on March 09, 2023, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: KR Convertible on February 23, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
I have always wondered what happens with a salvage title car when it is brought to a no title state.  Many states don't issue titles to older cars NY being one.  It gets a transferable registration.  Does the brand follow?

Ah. That's why so many cars have GA titles. Clean title state. Wipes the Brands

And why some/may are not accepted by other states.
Title: Re: Three Shelbys Up For Auction
Post by: SCJSTU on March 11, 2023, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: pmustang on March 09, 2023, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: KR Convertible on February 23, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
I have always wondered what happens with a salvage title car when it is brought to a no title state.  Many states don't issue titles to older cars NY being one.  It gets a transferable registration.  Does the brand follow?

Ah. That's why so many cars have GA titles. Clean title state. Wipes the Brands

NOPE....in Georgia if you have a title from out of state with it listed as salvage etc that goes on new title.......an older car they use a bill of sale so maybe thats what your talking about....a bill of sale will not require any prev title history.......soo if you are able to obtain a Georgia title for a car coming from another state the title will show same branded info

I live in Georgia......now some of our surrounding states you can wash a title.....don't know how the process works but I have a car that came from COPARTS and got the title washed by a nearby state not by me.......